So I guess it was stupid for Dell to sell us 20 machines with 8 core's per machine running Windows for our 3D labs. I guess having 12GB of ram in the very same machines is stupid too.
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Pretty funny. Thats why there is now a 1000+ node, 24TB, 8000 core, 70Tfl Windows HPC cluster into the TOP500? Or why SQL Server is running on 192 cores on Windows Server 2008 R2 right now? Please think before you speak.
I myself only have a lowly 8 core system with 12GB RAM, but I assure you between gaming, h264 compression, folding, etc, that I keep my cores quite busy with Win 7. Ram is cheap.
I'll make it really simple. Open up task manager on Vista or Win7. Click on the "performance" tab. Look on the bottom right side, where it says "Threads". See those? hundreds of them? Each one gets individually scheduled on a core. I've got over 1200 threads running right now....and its quite nice having 16 logical cores to run them on!
What forum is this posted in??? Enough said!
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I love my Mac, my kid can play his stupid Ruincrap or something game on it with no worries.
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If you really were [H]ard, you wouldn't need to ask that question. And besides, it's probably not going to run Windows. Most likely a specialized Linux distro optimized for folding.
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The HEC 98 98R9BB Chassis seems pretty nice looking and reasonable to me, but that's just my two cents worth.
From what I've seen of Tobit's rig, I think that Mountain Mods have got my vote for the most likely to purchase 10 slot Chassis.
Windows can utilize more than 8 CPU cores just fine. Most applications, and certainly most games can not. There is a difference. For simple tasks Windows won't see any improvement with the added CPU cores. Why should it? Notepad and Internet Explorer doesn't exactly demand much power from the system. Beyond that the need for multiple GPUs is clear. If you have multiple monitors, newer games, especially first person shooters, etc. then you can put those GPUs to use. Try running the latest titles on a single GPU with three 30" monitors. Granted not everyone can afford to do that, but for those who can, it may not be a waste of money in their eyes. I'm sure there are people who would say a Ferrari or Bugatti Veyron is totally worth the money. It's all relative.
Dan, will the staff be receiving a board from EVGA to get it reviewed?I think I've found my next motherboard.
... inquiring minds want to know!
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Just out of curiosity, has everyone seen this:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/4U/7046/SYS-7046GT-TRF.cfm
No nforce chips.... all PCIe lanes come from the 5520 northbridge, or the 2nd 5520 northbridge.... (QPI square, 2 corners are the 2 sockets, other 2 corners are the two 5520 northbridges) and the top slot with the gen1 x4 is from southbridge (ICH10R)
slot config is:
x8(x4 electrical)
x16 2.0
(gap)
x16 2.0
(gap)
x16 2.0
PCI
x16 2.0
PCI
x16(x4 2.0 electrical)
x16(x4 2.0 electrical)
The real question, is why is EVGA using the nforce chips instead of dual 5520's.... and if EVGA does offer overclocking, does that mean that intels ban on overclocking dual socket 1366 is over?
http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/4U/7046/SYS-7046GT-TRF.cfm
No nforce chips.... all PCIe lanes come from the 5520 northbridge, or the 2nd 5520 northbridge.... (QPI square, 2 corners are the 2 sockets, other 2 corners are the two 5520 northbridges) and the top slot with the gen1 x4 is from southbridge (ICH10R)
slot config is:
x8(x4 electrical)
x16 2.0
(gap)
x16 2.0
(gap)
x16 2.0
PCI
x16 2.0
PCI
x16(x4 2.0 electrical)
x16(x4 2.0 electrical)
The real question, is why is EVGA using the nforce chips instead of dual 5520's.... and if EVGA does offer overclocking, does that mean that intels ban on overclocking dual socket 1366 is over?
Yeah, that's a nice board Vlad. it's one of the boards I was looking at before I noticed the EVGA dual. I'm mainly interested in the EVGA board now for the potential overclocking but this is still second on my list. They are available for $470 USD which isn't too bad for a nice server board.
Nothing wrong with your eyes sir. It's a "proprietary" form factor. Full specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/QPI/5500/X8DTG-QF.cfm
I see, then only a SM chassis will work or are there some others that can accommodate this board as well? I like the combination and layout of the slots.
Tobit's Ghetto Rack Shoppe could coming up with something to put in his underutilized big green rack circa 1968. (I need to take a picture of this beast some day) I actually have two racks not being used at the moment.
However, to answer your question, that SM chassis is the only thing that will hold this board at this time.
That's unfortunate and will greatly add to the price of the setup. I'm pretty sure I can modify my decade-old Chenbro dual compartment case to fit it, but I'm not in the market for a new board at this time, especially a high-end one like this or the EVGA for that matter.
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Well isnt that board the same size at the XL-ATX?
Im looking at it, and its the same depth as an EATX and only seems to be wider to the left where those last two x16(x4) slots are
Im looking at it, and its the same depth as an EATX and only seems to be wider to the left where those last two x16(x4) slots are
Can't wait. Thanks for the heads up.
Seems like it.
Yeah, I was a bit confused too and what throws me off is the number of expansion slots and spacing between them. If you count all the slots including the empty spaces where there aren't any, that's a lot of slots, and look how high they start on the board right in line with the memory slots.
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Only the top slot is blocked by memory, and thats x8(x4 electrical), most likely another spot you'd put your fancypants NIC or a half-length SAS card or something. Of course, you could use one of the bottom slots for that too..... you know, assuming you weren't doing 5 double width cards.... LOL
I found some moar news and pictures on the EVGA board. The boards are essentially ready now and only BIOS tuning is left to do. Linky: http://www.techreaction.net/2010/01/07/exclusive-new-evga-classified-dual-proc-board-270-gt-w555/
The first thing that caught my attention is this quote: "The board is able to run with two entirely different models of CPU, or the same CPU’s at different multipliers." followed by the fact that it will be available in April for $450 to $550. Sweet.
The first thing that caught my attention is this quote: "The board is able to run with two entirely different models of CPU, or the same CPU’s at different multipliers." followed by the fact that it will be available in April for $450 to $550. Sweet.
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Now *that* is impressive.
I wonder how the BIOS handles that kind of situation, especially since the CPU's could potentially be operating at different multipliers. I might have to start seriously looking into this one.
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I thought Skulltrail was a bit on the extreme side with dual 8-pin EPS connectors and a 4-pin molex, but this board way outdoes every other in dual-sockets, or even quad sockets: 24+8+8+6+6+6+4+4!! WTF?!? Is EVGA kidding us?? That will make the board look like an orb web once all the power cables are connected! Seriously, with all off those power cables needed to power just the board and processors/memory, the builder will definitely need two PSUs if he ever hopes of supplying enough clean power for several high-end video cards. Are there any PSUs that can do what's required here?
Apollo, I am disappointed that you didn't read what was written in the linky I linked.
I still love you though man.
See above, the X8DTH-6F is probably a better product to compare to the EVGA board
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/QPI/5500/X8DTH-6F.cfm
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I know this is way off topic, but do they have any socket F boards (dual) that can OC?
OT - wow!! What could we be looking at for a serious price tho, 500$? Seems kinda steep, he'll my quad socket only was 299
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OT - wow!! What could we be looking at for a serious price tho, 500$? Seems kinda steep, he'll my quad socket only was 299
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Really, the D5400XS still retails for $650, $500-550 sounds like it'll be a bargin for this board.
and the SM X8DTH-6F retails for $590 but the slots are only x8, no overclocking, and you can't mix 'n match Xeons like you will be able to on this EVGA board. If the EVGA board hits the streets for $500 - $600.. I will be happy. Slap a couple E5520's on it for now and OC them as [H]ard as I can.
Perhaps, if it performs well. I got my Skulltrail for much cheaper than the prices you mentioned and it was NIB. Bargains can be found if one looks for them, but it was one of the worst motherboard purchases I ever made. I regret acquiring it and now look towards 'enthusiast' multi-socket boards with a very wary eye. The only board worse than Skulltrail in my experience was the Abit BP6 - now that was BAD as a dual-socket platform. My Supermicro boards although not 'OC' boards by any stretch of the imagination, can all accomplish it with relative ease, so this better be heaps and bounds superior to Skulltrail and run-of-the-mill dual-socket offerings. Otherwise, it's just another halo product that will quickly lose its shine once you get past its aura of allure.
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Well said Apollo!!! But its nice to dream, and hope against hope. But I definently wont be pre-ordering this and will read every review I can. (and hope you buy one and review it for us )
What would really be cool is if we could get some Harry Potter magic going and get the W35xx xeons to work on this thing.
)What would really be cool is if we could get some Harry Potter magic going and get the W35xx xeons to work on this thing.
At $500 it's not a halo product like the D5400XS was, it's just a run of the mill 5520 workstation offering with some enthusiast features thrown in. Look at the prices of the other workstation 5520 boards that have 3+ PCIe x16 slots and support at least 12 dimms, you're looking at $400+ for a board.
I paid $550 for my DSEB-DG when it first came out, it's been stable with no issues since I've had it. This round, I've been contemplating the SM board but am waiting to see some reviews of this EVGA. What I really don't want to have to do is buy a new case that I have to tap the standoffs into just for this board, that's the biggest turn off to me.
I agree that the size is a turn off for many. However, we also can't hang onto the ATX and EATX standards forever. I'm glad to see EVGA pushing the envelope and trying new things. They really couldn't have fit all of this any other way. However, I have an XL-ATX compatible chassis so I admit I might be a bit bias.
I agree that the size is a turn off for many. However, we also can't hang onto the ATX and EATX standards forever. I'm glad to see EVGA pushing the envelope and trying new things. They really couldn't have fit all of this any other way. However, I have an XL-ATX compatible chassis so I admit I might be a bit bias.
Which one do you have? I'm torn between buying an 800D right now or getting the P80 so if I end up buying this board I'll have something to throw it in. Not sold on the looks of the P80, it doesn't have hotswap drive bays and it's £40 more then the 800D.
And somehow supermicro managed to fit 7 pcie slots with dual tylersburgs on an E-ATX board, of course if you used the first slot for a video card it'll hang over some of the memory slots.
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