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4LC4PON3

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Ok i got word that between now an august 10th i will be getting 1500 dollars and im ready to build. my question is i really want an i7 but im slowly changing my mind.

what CPU can handle any video card without bottlenecking?
 
4LC4PON3, since your monitor is a 23" 1080P display, a Phenom II X4 940, 945 or 955 will be enough for a high end video card like a 4870X2 or GTX 295 video card. But, I would not go with these video cards anyways. A GTX 275, GTX 280 or Radeon HD 4890 1GB will be good enough already.
 
Gaming? Phenom II 940/945/955. Spend the money on a decent monitor/speaker system instead IMO.
 
i already have monitor and speakers. i already have all the parts in a new egg cart for a sick i7 build but i wasnt 100% on it. i was looking for cheaper CPU's that wouldnt bottleneck on dual 4850's or even if it comes to it x2 4890's

and yes sorry gaming only
 
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Again, the Core i7 is unnecessary for gaming -- most games still aren't optimized to fully utilize multiple cores. The Phenom II is more than enough for games.

That said, which games are you going to play? At what level of visual quality? I ask because nothing that I've heard you say so far has convinced me that you need more than one HD4890 card (or maybe, if you can explain yourself better, the GTX 285).
 
He has a Compaq System with an AMD X2 4450e at 2.3ghz, 3GB of RAM and a Radeon HD 4850 video card and an Antec EA430 watt psu. His monitor is a 23" Acer 1080P 1920x1080 res. Since his X2 4450e is bottlenecking his Radeon HD4850 video card, I would just put together a Phenom II X4 Quad build and slap that Radeon HD 4850 in there. There is real good AMD Phenom II X4 quad combos right now that you should take advantage of. You can get an AMD CPU/MOBO/RAM for the same cost of a Core i7 cpu alone. The quad cpu upgrade should help boost some fps in his gaming over his slow X2 4450e dual core cpu in his Compaq system. I would just enjoy this now until the DX 11 video cards come out and then upgrade the video card again.

Oh yah, one of the games he wants to play or already playing is Crysis.
 
im gaming on a 23inch acer h233h 1920x1080. As for games i own basicly every game out so lets say, crysis(warhead), gta iv, prototype, bionic commando. basicly i can keep going. i have a 640gb hard drive full of games.

i dont really see that i need dual cards. right now im just looking for the CPU then i will build around that. i wanted the i7 but someone said to grab a AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
 
Crysis? GTX 285.

If you can live with medium (or low) visual settings, however, the GTX 275 or HD4890 would work just fine.
 
i wasnt planning on keeping the 4850 i have a friend who needs a new work pc so he is buying my dualcore with the 4850 for 350 wich in turn will buy the new video card.

im gonna grab the 955 black edition and build around that CPU. i will post up what i come up with shortly

just wanted to meantion i am not happy playing any game at medium settings :) i dont like how i cant max a game out
 
ok heres the build i came up with. wasnt sure if i should get 4gb memory or 6 so i got 6.

XFX HD-489A-ZDFC Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150359

OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1600LV6GK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227365

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.213924

GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.213924

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103674

Total: $689.96 motherboard and PSU are combo deals
 
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i was just looking at the memory and changing it to 4gb as we speak. windows 7 32 and i realized that it doesnt support 6gb thats why im changing the ram to 4
 
Drop the 6GB of RAM dude. You don't need more than 4GB for gaming. 4GB is already plenty for Vista 64 or Win 7. I would go with the X4 955 cpu + ASUS 770 chipset mobo for $229.99 and DDR2 1066 Ram for $55. Antec EA650 for $77. This should bring your total cost to $557 with a HD 4890 1GB card.
 
ok will do. whats the difference between the 10666 and the 12800 lets say these 2

OCZ Reaper HPC 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3RPR13332GK - Retail

OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3RPR16004GK - Retail
 
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1. get a 64 bit os.
2. 4gb or 8gbs pick one.
3. Personally I would go with 8. I see myself topping out with 4 GBs with programs open.
 
ill stick with 4 i do not do anything on this pc but game right now. i come to forums but thats it. i dont use messenger or anything else.
 
i hope you didnt order that yet bro.. you selected the wrong motherboard.. thats a am2+ board with ddr2 support not ddr3..


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.212169

^^ the mother board in that combo deal is actually very nice.. one of the best FSB overclocking boards ever released so far.. if thats something you want to venture into even though the multiplier overclocking is far easier..


but i completely agree with hardwareguru.. go with ddr2.. theres 0 performance difference between the two..
 
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thanks for the heads up guys. the only problem now is the ombo deals i had going all expired and the antec 650 jumped up from 79 to 99. i wrote everything i needed down so once i get my check i will combo this pc again and get this ordered.

i added the memory to my package and thanks
 
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4LC4PON3 said:
i didnt order. im not ordering until august 10th the day after my birthday. the combo deal expired. im not 100 sure on the overclocking ive never done it so i might venture into it and i might not. thanks for the heads up it was getting late and getting tired and i didnt notice i had the wrong memory

the combo deal expired and the antec 650 jumped from 79 to 99
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Basic overclocking is incredibly easy to do these days. I changed one thing in my BIOS (FSB from 333 to 400) and I was running at 3.4GHz completely stable. Mileage may vary of course, and each system is different.
 
i just looked a my email and noticed my check has been sent for 1500 so once it gets here and i wait the 5day clear time i will be ordering. so very soon. i switched up the CPU in the build to the 945 so if anyone has any other suggestions let me know. or the build will stay as is :)

HIS H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161276

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166

AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103675

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V
ASUS M4A78 Plus AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.213926

$603.96
 
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do you guys recommend a physx card? or do graphics cards have them already. not sure about this matter :)
 
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do you guys recommend a physx card? or do graphics cards have them already. not sure about this matter :)
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PhysX cards are complete waste of money. 8 series Nvidia GPUs and up do have capability to process PhysX commands.
 
i will all im waiting for now is the check. verified that its in the mail then once i get it i gotta wait 5 days for it to clear with my bank.

can someone recomend me a aftermarker cooler. i want something sweet looking was thinking about COOLER MASTER Hyper coolers
 
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In this case, don't order this from NewEgg. Go with Zizoomfly.com

X4 940 Deneb 3.0 ghz for $169.99 w/free shipping
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10009843

ASUS 770 mobo for $77.99 ($10 MIR) w/free shipping
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010373

Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2 1066 for $59.99 ($15 MIR) w/free shipping
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010569

HIS Tech Radeon HD 4890 1GB for $189.99 w/free shipping
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010252

Antec EA650 for $78.50 w/free shipping
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010587

Total: $576.46



4LC4PON3 said:
i just looked a my email and noticed my check has been sent for 1500 so once it gets here and i wait the 5day clear time i will be ordering. so very soon. i switched up the CPU in the build to the 945 so if anyone has any other suggestions let me know. or the build will stay as is :)

HIS H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161276

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166

AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103675

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V
ASUS M4A78 Plus AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.213926

$603.96
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It's not the same price. That's why I am recommending the X4 940 cpu instead of that X4 945.
 
this is what i got in my cart.

ANTEC EA650 EarthWatts
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010587

HIS H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010252

CORSAIR TWIN2X4096-8500C5C 4GB PC2-8500
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010569

ASUS M4A78 Plus AMD 770 AM2+/AM2 Phenom X4
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010373

AMD HDX945FBGIBOX Phenom II X4 Phenom II X4 3.00
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010422

Estimated Total before tax: $575.47
 
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can someone recommend me a cpu cooler on zipzoomfly. they dont have the ones i was looking at and i want to keep everything in the same order.
 
I'd honestly say go DDR3 -- its not really much more expensive than DDR2 and it actually has an upgrade path. Don't expect to be able to go any further with an AM2+ setup.
 
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