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According to the link below, MidnightFreak[H]'s output was [color=sky blue]zero[/color] yesterday.

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/member_overview.php?UserID=37531

and our overall production has suffered.

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_overview.php?TeamID=33

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I noticed that too. Perhaps there's a technical problem?
 
Can you imagine all his boxen with WUs in the queue...

Let's hope that MidnightFreak[H] hasn't gone over to the dark side...or worse yet stopped folding! :eek:

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I sincerely hope he hasn't stopped. I guess we'll have to wait for a formal announcement, in any case.
 
I am just a visitor to [H] so I dont know his situation but I am guessing thats a lab/school/something with a lot of computers. But he doesnt have his own personal computer folding at all?
 
yea lets hope he's not stopped, kuz we'd all have to borg an extra 50 machines to make up his output...lol:eek:
 
Hey, he turned in 1 wu today. :) He will be informing us soon, I suspect. Just the other week his production dropped way down and he was quick to say something.
 
If these are his work machines, he might not know until he gets back to work later today.
 
probably a hung router or sumthin...

one of my main borgs went down for three days for renovating stuff and i suffered accordingly :(

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pretty impressed that i managed to keep like ~1400 PPD with just my machines @ home

but all is well now :D

should have an even bigger borg... like, the borg to end-all borgs hehe ;)
 
Originally posted by FLECOM
should have an even bigger borg... like, the borg to end-all borgs hehe ;)

Speaking of which i've been ramping up slowly, right now i'm around 9 active a week, which isn't alot but as of 2 weeks ago i was @ 3. And come this weekend i'll be adding at least another 7, and if i'm lucky maybe 17 more.

p.s. - i'm gonna kick cancer's ass!:mad: :p
 
I just saw my production(or lack thereof). Here is what they say:

[16:29:35] + Attempting to get work packet
[16:29:35] - Connecting to assignment server
[16:29:36] Couldn't send HTTP request to server (wininet)
[16:29:36] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[16:29:36] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.89.151).
[16:29:36] + News From Folding@Home: v.4 client available
[16:29:36] Loaded queue successfully.
[16:29:37] Couldn't send HTTP request to server (wininet)
[16:29:37] + Could not connect to Work Server
[16:29:37] - Error: Getwork #103 failed, and no other work to do. Waiting before retry

So i dont know exactly where the problem lies. I can connect to the server to get work but something happens at that point. Anyone have a clue?
 
midnight...you got AIM?, btw can you ping the server address? Are you using a proxy? Is everything else running fine you just can't send or get complete work units?
 
Weird error, most of the errors i'm seeing on google are the server being down, or someone's firewall blocking the connections.


COME ON GUYS SOMEONE GET MIDNIGHT BACK IN THE GAME!:( ;)
 
they are "rerouting power" in their server room?

these guys really arnt taking uptime/availability and redundancy into account are they? :rolleyes:

filled disks, crashed servers, no power... whats next? somone is gonna break in and steal them :rolleyes:

ah sigh...

as the protiens fold... in todays episode... the servers are down and mary gets a brain tumer... but not before joey discovers a misfolding protein!
 
could it be a routing or DNS issue?
 
I dont know what is going on really. I cant ping the server as outside pings are not allowed here. Also i can still connect to the server it seems as i was able to send all the WU's back, i just cant seem to get any new ones. I can try to take the -adv off and see what happens, but i cant do that for all the machines, thats for sure.
 
just an idea but if you shut all the clients down and bring them back up will they search for a different server or keep the same one in que? Not sure if its possible for you to restart all those clients or not.:(
 
Ok, i just tried to take the -advmethods flag off and this machine is now folding. I obviously cant do that for all the machines, so what do i do? And more importantly whay is it happening in the first place?
 
Im sure a script would do it but i really dont want to do that because that doesnt really tell me WHY this has happened. I guess if i have to i could do a script to fix this, but id rather find out what is going on before i do anything, so i am not doing needless work.
 
well as of why its doing this, you'd definately know better than i, as i'm just starting to get into FOLDING hardcore. But Goodluck anyways!
 
MidnightFreak, what changed when you took the -advmethods off? Did it try to go to a different server? Use a different port? I know Stanford was reworking their servers and how they gave out gromacs, etc., but I don't know if that has anything to do with your issues. Let us know if you find anything out.
 
Originally posted by MidnightFreak
Ok, i just tried to take the -advmethods flag off and this machine is now folding. I obviously cant do that for all the machines, so what do i do? And more importantly whay is it happening in the first place?

I haven't looked at any of the folding community forums on this, but if taking off the advmethods flag causes it to get new work, I'd assume that some particular servers that provide WU's for clients with advmethod flags are down.

Go stanford :(
 
well as of last week (they did fix it that day tho, but it coulda happened again) server .150 was set to not give out units. They did fix the problem but it coulda happened again to 151.
 
I've been having this problem for nearly one week. I was told that some of the servers were getting NETLOAD too high, and having problems giving out new proteins. Several time they have, for example, removed the .150 server from distributing WUs.

I've had boxen go for up to 3 or 4 hours awaiting a WU. When it eventually gets assigned to another server, bingo the WU is downloaded and it folding time.

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Ok when i took -advmethods off i went from 171.67.89.151 to 171.64.122.143. Now i am not doing that to all my machines. That is just ridiculous. This is getting out of hand, and im really getting sick of it. If the problem isnt fixed then ill just stop folding.
 
Originally posted by MidnightFreak
This is getting out of hand, and im really getting sick of it. If the problem isnt fixed then ill just stop folding.

Understandable that the large farms can become a real pain sometimes with Stanford. If it does come to stopping the Folding, please consider transferring some or all of the processing power toward other projects like U.D. (I'm sure they would love the added firepower), FAD, or DF.
 
Just a quick word about UD...computers are very easy to manage using UD. Everything is done through a web-console. Basically you set up a profile for when you want the computers to UD, and when you want them to send in WUs. I hvae mine set to 24/7 for both, but you can restrict them. Once you update this profile, you just assign each computer the profile you want, and away it goes.

Almost everything can be controlled from this web interface. This would prevent you from having to go around to all the different machines to change settings. You could do it in about 2 minutes.

One other thing, UD has one of the stablest projects that I have ever seen. I have NEVER lost a WU due to computers crashing, or failing. My clients are able to connect all the time without a problem.

PM me if you need more details and I would be more than happy to help with setting you up online.
 
Agreed, after the last time I had problems I won't go around fixing everything again. I enjoy contributing to the project, but it seems like every 6 months I have to make changes to every single machine, and thats about 180 for me. I usually try to work in the changes while I'm working on other stuff, but it can really eat up time messing with the machines.

But thinking about it, most of these DC projects arent just a simple click and go scheme. I might have switched all my machines over to UD, but they require that enter every computer name that you use. F@H you have to mess with command line switches to get it running optimally. And SETI was a real mess, to get decent numbers from it I had to set up a queue server and all sorts of crap. I think this is where systems like the Google team can get so far ahead. A lot more people would be inclined to use these programs if they were just a little simpler.

Brian Taylor
 
Originally posted by BrianTaylor


But thinking about it, most of these DC projects arent just a simple click and go scheme. I might have switched all my machines over to UD, but they require that enter every computer name that you use.

Brian Taylor

When you set up the client, it will take about 3 mins/machine. Basically you install the .exe, then you put in your username, password, and a name for the computer. You may just want to put in a room number or something.

After that initial thing is done, then you are cruising. Everything is either done by UD automatically (updating the client), or through the web-based management (updating preferences). Through the web, you can do everything with one click if you have it set up right. It may take a while to set it up, but once you do it, you will never have to go around to each machine ever again.

Brian, if I can help you get going with UD, then I would be more than happy. PM me.
 
Originally posted by CIWS
Understandable that the large farms can become a real pain sometimes with Stanford. If it does come to stopping the Folding, please consider transferring some or all of the processing power toward other projects like U.D. (I'm sure they would love the added firepower), FAD, or DF.

I would still like to contribute to a project of some sort for sure. But i need it to be easy to get up and running and have little to no maintainance. I just dont have the time to devote while im at work. Plus the machines here get imaged every semester so having scripts are vital, as i am not going to touch each machine like i used to.

Hopefully this issue can get sorted out becuase id hate to have to switch to something else and start all over again. But i will if there is no other choice.
 
Originally posted by BrianTaylor
Agreed, after the last time I had problems I won't go around fixing everything again. I enjoy contributing to the project, but it seems like every 6 months I have to make changes to every single machine, and thats about 180 for me. I usually try to work in the changes while I'm working on other stuff, but it can really eat up time messing with the machines.

But thinking about it, most of these DC projects arent just a simple click and go scheme. I might have switched all my machines over to UD, but they require that enter every computer name that you use. F@H you have to mess with command line switches to get it running optimally. And SETI was a real mess, to get decent numbers from it I had to set up a queue server and all sorts of crap. I think this is where systems like the Google team can get so far ahead. A lot more people would be inclined to use these programs if they were just a little simpler.

Brian Taylor

I was in the same situation a couple of years ago. I switched over to UD and really haven't had any problems at all. I think it is a better client for people who aren't able to fiddle with the computers all the time. I have a few machines that have been running it for 2 years now with no intervention on my part needed.

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Originally posted by MidnightFreak
Hopefully this issue can get sorted out because id hate to have to switch to something else and start all over again. But i will if there is no other choice.

Well I hope it's more of a temporary glitch and ya'll are able to get running smoothly again. You could consider posting over on the Folding Forum and ask the question to see if they have an idea or answer.

http://forum.folding-community.org/

However if all else fails and you end up switching it sounds like UD may be a good route for you to go. I think the UD team would love some more heavy hitters. But if that also doesn't work out for some reason you could also try FAD.
 
The best ones (at this point) for farming (as far as click-and-go) would probably be DF and FAD. FAD has the advantage of having a built-in queue server, and you only have ONE executable (on that server). You can change that executable and just wait for the machines to be rebooted (or reboot them yourself). The other machines on the network point to that executable on the server.

DF only requires the switches to be made one time, and then just roll it out. The program will auto-update and the server uptime is much better (as in, zero downtime, except for when the clients are updating.. it can take a little while.. but they have that pretty much handled now)

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