Oblivion First Impressions Thread #1

Pegi said:
Is everyone experiencing REALLY slow walking in this game? I can't determine if it's a setting I should change or a feature of the game. I just downloaded and ran fraps to see what sort of frame rate I'm getting. I'm on ultra high settings, 1920x1200 resolution, Vsync off, HDR on. Frame rates are running anywhere from a low of in the 40s to the high 80s just wandering around outside. But when walking, I feel as if I'm traveling through molasses, as if something is holding me back. When I hold down the run key, I move nice and quick but it's not a toggle so it has to be held down. No one seems to have mentioned this gawdawful slow walking. I'm not overly encumbered. I've tried setting resolution to lower levels, decreased many settings to the far left, and it made no difference. Everything runs great on the game, no lags, no jerks, and it looks beautiful but I'm walking like an old lady. Is everyone experiencing this?

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Caps Lock key toggles between Run and Walk. So if you always want to run, hit the caps key. No holding involved.

Question for you, where do you turn Vsync off at? My framerates never go above 60, so Vsync has to be one for me. I cant find the option anywhere!! Or am I just blind?
 
Pegi said:
Is everyone experiencing REALLY slow walking in this game? I can't determine if it's a setting I should change or a feature of the game. I just downloaded and ran fraps to see what sort of frame rate I'm getting. I'm on ultra high settings, 1920x1200 resolution, Vsync off, HDR on. Frame rates are running anywhere from a low of in the 40s to the high 80s just wandering around outside. But when walking, I feel as if I'm traveling through molasses, as if something is holding me back. When I hold down the run key, I move nice and quick but it's not a toggle so it has to be held down. No one seems to have mentioned this gawdawful slow walking. I'm not overly encumbered. I've tried setting resolution to lower levels, decreased many settings to the far left, and it made no difference. Everything runs great on the game, no lags, no jerks, and it looks beautiful but I'm walking like an old lady. Is everyone experiencing this?

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hit Caps Lock to toggle the run mode.
 
Sheesh, I promise to read the manual really soon. CapsLock is great. I'm moving fine now although if I run into combat I fatigue more quickly. But are you also having that same slow speed when walking and having to utilize the capslock/running for your normal getting-around speed?

To turn vsync on/off, when you first doubleclick on your Oblivion shortcut, the menu that first comes up (where you would normally click "play game"), choose Options. It's in the Mode box.
 
Pegi said:
Sheesh, I promise to read the manual really soon. CapsLock is great. I'm moving fine now although if I run into combat I fatigue more quickly. But are you also having that same slow speed when walking and having to utilize the capslock/running for your normal getting-around speed?

To turn vsync on/off, when you first doubleclick on your Oblivion shortcut, the menu that first comes up (where you would normally click "play game"), choose Options. It's in the Mode box.
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TES traditionally has had "slow" movement, which is actually REALISTIC movement, most other games have you moving at what would be a quick jog in real life when you are "walking". Also the more you run the higher your atheltic skill gets and then you run even faster.

The initial movement speed is annoying, and in Morrowind the first thing I did was mod the game to make me move twice as fast, but it will get better, and running works well most of the time until your walking speed gets higher.
 
Thanks, Arentol, really appreciated the confirmation. It seemed like no one was mentioning what appeared to be a signficant finding so I was concerned I just had a setting out of whack. The running works just fine, unrealistic as it may be; I just hated the feeling of slogging through peanut butter to get from point A to point B.
 
I borrowed the game from a friend, and so far I'm not liking it too much. The whole takes 15 arrows to kill something is a major turnoff (especially when you only get 2 back), despite me picking the archer class. Also I find it odd that I can turn invisible, yet if I go into a store and take somehting, the shop keeper somehow sees me and when I go outside the gaurds know it was me, even though I was/am still invisible.
 
I can usually kill most things, goblins included with the bow with one or two shots at most... You have to hold the mouse button in longer to get a better pull on the bow, the longer you hold it the harder the shot will hit and more damage it will cause, but only to a point. If you just click it, you are basically tossing the arrow at the mob.
Your sneak skill is not good enough to get by the shopkeepers then also if you are getting caught. In the manual it shows and says when you are in undetectable sneak mode, and most likely you are not sneaking. You may be trying to sneak, but not hidden from anyone.
 
ob1 said:
I can usually kill most things, goblins included with the bow with one or two shots at most... You have to hold the mouse button in longer to get a better pull on the bow, the longer you hold it the harder the shot will hit and more damage it will cause, but only to a point. If you just click it, you are basically tossing the arrow at the mob.
Your sneak skill is not good enough to get by the shopkeepers then also if you are getting caught. In the manual it shows and says when you are in undetectable sneak mode, and most likely you are not sneaking. You may be trying to sneak, but not hidden from anyone.
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I must need a better bow or something, no matter how long I hold it it takes a good 10 shots to kill those things in the portal.

I'm not sneaking, I have some spell that turns me completely invisible for 60 seconds, yet somehow everyone can still see me.
 
Naldo said:
I borrowed the game from a friend, and so far I'm not liking it too much. The whole takes 15 arrows to kill something is a major turnoff (especially when you only get 2 back), despite me picking the archer class. Also I find it odd that I can turn invisible, yet if I go into a store and take somehting, the shop keeper somehow sees me and when I go outside the gaurds know it was me, even though I was/am still invisible.
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Try ambushing instead of just running around firing. If you are in sneak mode when you fire your first arrow, it does 2x to 5x damage. That can really turn the tables.

Also, invisible isn't invisible. It is a percentage based spell and just means you are mostly transparent. Actions make you stand out. Fighting or stealing from invisible should neutralize the effect.
 
Naldo said:
I must need a better bow or something, no matter how long I hold it it takes a good 10 shots to kill those things in the portal.

I'm not sneaking, I have some spell that turns me completely invisible for 60 seconds, yet somehow everyone can still see me.
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I don't understand.. wouldn't the game be really boring if you ran around killing everything with one or two arrows? Especially in an area like the Oblivion gate where it's supposed to be a little challenging.
 
Just the mobs around the imperial city can be 1 -2 shotted while in sneak. As you get farther it takes a lot more to take an enemy down. I usually open up with 1 -2 shots before I am detected and have to switch to melee.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
I don't understand.. wouldn't the game be really boring if you ran around killing everything with one or two arrows? Especially in an area like the Oblivion gate where it's supposed to be a little challenging.
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It just bothers me that the enemies can have 7 arrows in their chest and still be alive, thats not challenging, its ridiculous. I wanted to be a archer cause I was thinking quick kills from a distance (the way an archer in pretty much every game I've ever played is) but extremly vulnarable and clumsy in close range combat (thats where the challange would come in), but it seems running up to the guy and hitting him with my bare fist is somehow more effective that putting 7 arrows in his chest. It just doesnt make sense to me.

jaegertech said:
Also, invisible isn't invisible. It is a percentage based spell and just means you are mostly transparent. Actions make you stand out. Fighting or stealing from invisible should neutralize the effect.
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That sucks, in the begining they should have said "picking this sign is comepletly useless" instead of telling me I could turn invisible once a day. What use is turning invisible if I cant do anything while I'm invisible.
 
Naldo said:
That sucks, in the begining they should have said "picking this sign is comepletly useless" instead of telling me I could turn invisible once a day. What use is turning invisible if I cant do anything while I'm invisible.
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It's very good for scouting around in dungeons and such, without having to save a load a lot. You can use it to see how many opponents you'll face and things like that before entering a situation. Chameleon is a better spell, because the effect stays on you no matter what you do... ;)
 
Arrows can become far better if you upgrade them with poisons. Adding the right poison and getting a sneak shot can 1-shot most things that want to hurt you.
 
Naldo said:
That sucks, in the begining they should have said "picking this sign is comepletly useless" instead of telling me I could turn invisible once a day. What use is turning invisible if I cant do anything while I'm invisible.
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You need to adjust your tactics a bit. Don't think of invisible as some buff that lets you go Predator on a room full of enemies. Think of invisible as a free sneak attack when you wouldn't normally be able to pull one off. Use it as a way to get past people without them following so you can rob them blind in peace.

It is a shitty sign though.
 
Is there anyway to change classes and pic a new sign other than starting a new game? Its dawned on me thats theres basically no point in being an archer in this game, because the bow is super weak and pretty much every fight is close quarters, and the whole turning invisible thing has no effect whatsoever. I really didnt want to be a hack and slash guy, but it seems thats the only way to get through this game (unless someone can tell me the location of a bow that doesnt suck).
 
Right before you exit the sewers, save the game, then when you try to exit, it will ask you if you want to change your race/class/birth sign before you do. Then if you want to change your player later, just reload this saved game, make the changes, and exit again.
 
I find the bow is awesome! I poison my arrow when ever I do a sneak attack. I have been 1 shot killing things that were kicking my ass before! Still Magic is where its at! I have 386 Magicka and I am only at level 6. I can cast most every spell I have endless amounts of time.
I can fire off enough flares to kill most things before they even get close to me! I love it!
 
Is there a place in the game I can go to or a book, where it teaches you about poison and all that stuff?
 
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