Nvidia shimering?

Because some fan boys still can't buy their precious X1800XT and/or BackFire boards... ;)
 
Obi_Kwiet said:
Why do people still harp on it? :confused:
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Because it's all that stands between them and admitting that they've been hoodwinked.

Again...
 
you know what's funny, i've heard about shimmering for weeks now and i STILL don't know what it is/looks like...and i've had my 7800GT for more than a month now...
 
=Vector= said:
you know what's funny, i've heard about shimmering for weeks now and i STILL don't know what it is/looks like...and i've had my 7800GT for more than a month now...
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same here. although i am now using 8x.xx drivers.
 
Yes shimmering still occurs. You have !!!!!!s on both sides that pounce on both ends of the argument. It most deffinently does still exist. To the point im looking at X800XL's atm.

Wherever two mip boundaries meet, it shimmers.
 
Obi_Kwiet said:
Wasn't this fixed in a driver recently? Why do people still harp on it? :confused:
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Because nVidia (and ATI's last gen cards, and the newer ones in lower quality modes) use angle-dependent aniso filtering that doesn't blend mips levels together evenly across all 360 degrees of surface.

Ergo, when a texture that was at one angle is rotated to another (by the camera moving - say, a character's head bobbing up and down being simulated), the mip blending algorithm changes abruptly and unevenly. That makes a 'shimmery' effect, for lack of a better term (and it's really a rather crappy term, but what seems to have been adopted).

The reason nVidia can't change it - at least, I don't think they can - is that they have long "hardcoded" aniso and FSAA algorithms into their hardware. If you want to check out a card that does NOT shimmer (at all), try the GeForce FX-series in "High Quality" mode. No angle-based aniso at all, anywhere.
 
I havent had shimmering since the first week I got my card. As far as camps go...who cares!?!? Its not like your really getting a bad product either way. If they were putting out bad products neither company would be in existance. I have owned cards from both sides....happy with every one.
 
So the shimmering was only happening when you were enabling extra stuff?
 
Arialis said:
So the shimmering was only happening when you were enabling extra stuff?
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? In the video above that happens all the time. Nothing special.
 
As far as i recall yes

NOW NVIDIA had denied these claims originally i recall also when a few web sites pointed it out - then suddenly did a driver release....
 
Cali3350 said:
Look directly infront of my charector toward the ground. See how it shimmers?
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Nope. Not even slightly. I'm not sure what you're on about, but if that's the worst of it, you really need to get on with your life.
 
O[H]-Zone said:
Nope. Not even slightly. I'm not sure what you're on about, but if that's the worst of it, you really need to get on with your life.
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Wow, thats a rather out of place comment for someone posting on a message board in response to a problem they admit they cant (somehow) see.
 
I see that in Halo sometimes, which has jaggies everywhere anyway because you can't use AA or Ansio in it.

If you get as intense as I do during a multiplayer FPS game you won't even notice it.
 
Cali3350 said:
Wow, thats a rather out of place comment for someone posting on a message board in response to a problem they admit they cant (somehow) see.
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Not when it's in response to someone who has blown much wind about shimmering that doesn't seem to be visible.
 
O[H]-Zone said:
Not when it's in response to someone who has blown much wind about shimmering that doesn't seem to be visible.
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Visible to you. Difference there buddy.
 
Oline61 said:
I see that in Halo sometimes, which has jaggies everywhere anyway because you can't use AA or Ansio in it.

If you get as intense as I do during a multiplayer FPS game you won't even notice it.
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I dont notice it durring FPS games. UT2004 it pretty much doesnt exist in, BF2 doesnt really have it, CS:S is perfect, etc, etc.

I DO notice it in RPG's though, like WOW, Gothic, Fable. Its very noticeable in some areas of these games.
 
Obi_Kwiet said:
Wasn't this fixed in a driver recently? Why do people still harp on it? :confused:
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Because its NOT fixed. Why is that so hard to understand? Its much better when the drivers are set to High Quality, however when they are set to Quality, shimmering is still very, very noticable in certain games. They need to "fix" it for Quality as well. Its a big issue to some people, myself included. However, I dont notice it in every game. Just the one I play the most, which sucks. Basically I have only one option, HQ. With the drastic frame rate loss from Q to HQ, thats not good.
 
fallguy said:
Because its NOT fixed. Why is that so hard to understand? Its much better when the drivers are set to High Quality, however when they are set to Quality, shimmering is still very, very noticable in certain games. They need to "fix" it for Quality as well. Its a big issue to some people, myself included. However, I dont notice it in every game. Just the one I play the most, which sucks. Basically I have only one option, HQ. With the drastic frame rate loss from Q to HQ, thats not good.
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What game are you experiencing 'massive' frame rate losses in going from Q to HQ?
 
kcthebrewer said:
What game are you experiencing 'massive' frame rate losses in going from Q to HQ?
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I dont which he means particularly, but any texture heavy game. Some areas of WOW drop off over 50%.
 
Man, I can see where you'd be really unhappy with that card. You should sell it right now and get an X1800XL.
 
guildwars shimmers on my 6800gs @ 1280 4aa 16af high quality from drivers and game.
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Day Of Defeat Source too.
 
I have a BFG 6800 Ultra OC and a BFG 7800 GTX OC and have yet to experience any form of shimmering in any of the games I play (CoD2, JO:E, etc).

To my eyes, the shimmering is quite noticable in the video.
 
I dont notice shimmering except when I dont run graphics at high quality. Which is rare. If I run anything but High quality I can notice a little shimmering in a few games. It doesn't bother me much though. ;)
 
chronicles of riddick has been the only game that shimmering has bothered me. it was really bad in that game and even some of the reviews of riddick mentioned the shimmering. it shimmered with an x700 and a 6600 so its not just an nvidia problem.
 
I notice it alot in GTA:SA, not sure if I was running in HQ or not, don't really feel like installing again.

Which is the exact optimization in the CP that causes shimmering?

-pig
 
Obi_Kwiet said:
Wasn't this fixed in a driver recently? Why do people still harp on it? :confused:
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No...the drivers were gamked to a higher LOD. Thats why people with ATi cards swear ATi has a better IQ...the nvidia will look exactly the same once you set LOD to -2 with rivatuner. Shimmering and all.
 
In the DivX video someone linked to......I looked ahead of the little guy....and I didnt see what was going on? Could someone say exactly what i'm looking for? Thanks.
 
I've heard about this issue for I don't know how long, and I still to this day have no idea what people are talking about, and I don't think I'm the only one.

I'm not trying to be a fan boy, maybe I've even seen it and not known that I've seen it, but what ever the issue is, not everyone's eye pick it up, mine don't at the least.
 
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