So, NVIDIA posts losses in 2 quarters, in a recession period and is about to die, but AMD posts huge losses for 2 years (even before the recession) and should be ok ?
Fans are so funny...
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Nvidia Posts $200M Loss
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So, NVIDIA posts losses in 2 quarters, in a recession period and is about to die, but AMD posts huge losses for 2 years (even before the recession) and should be ok ?
Fans are so funny...
alg7_munif
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Their share price currently drops more than $1 or more than 10% 
If this is not a horrible news for them, I don't know what is.
If this is not a horrible news for them, I don't know what is.
Their share price currently drops more than $1 or more than 10%
If this is not a horrible news for them, I don't know what is.
Maybe when they dropped 50% last year? They are still up 63% off thier 52 week low. Clearly they are in free fall now.
Of course at the current rate, they've only got enough cash reserves to loose the 50 million they lost that was not associated with one time charges for.... 8 years before they would even have to take out a loan. OMG the sky is falling!!!!alg7_munif
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Ok then, as you wish, this is not a horrible news for them yet. Is this a good news for them?
Yes. The fact that durring a major recession they only lost 50M which is less than 10% of thier gross revenue is a very good thing. Go look at AMD, or Intel, or even ATI. ATI for all it's "ZOMG we've got so much more profit margin" barely broke even.
Nvidia is built to run at about double the revenue it pulled in last quarter. Despite that they managed to only loose 50M. That says a lot about a company.
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same here... 2x gts 512's a few months ago i *almost* went to a single 280 solution... in the end I simply could not justify it. the 8800 and the 9x series are still competitive enough to not warrant upgrades at this point.
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The investors are really impressed with this good news, that's why their stock is closed at $9.25 today, down $1.48
humm the company that has lasted through SGI, 3DFX, ATI and a horrible release of the 5900 series, is really worried. lol Nvidia is far more worried about Intel than anything AMD can release.
Like above 8 series cards still playing everything is hurting amd and nvidia, that and the vendors wanting to get rid of current stock before the new generation releases I'm sure had nothing to do nvidia losing money.
Nvidia is targeting the rendering crowd right now, people who will spend millions of dollars to get the CG done this week instead of next week so that the post people have more time and they are less likely to not be done by whatever date marketing set.
ATI issues with not making any profit are mainly due to throwing money at a problem. They had cool tech they could not figure how to get it to work, so they threw money at buying out techs from nvidia, intel, ibm and where ever else they could find they but expensive ddr4 that was still in testing in a new design. That design did not work till AMD bought out the huge debt ATI had occured and put their cpu guys on the videocards infrastructure something AMD has always been good at. That debt is going to take decades to pay off. It would not surprise me that AMD had swapped people around from gpu and cpu teams until the best people they had were working on projects that make sense since the 3 series cards suddenly got better and pheon 2 suddenly was a decent chip. I'm just curious what AMD/ATI is going to due when intel and nvidia have real time ray tracing? Abet this is a ways down the road.
News like this is useful but should be taken in perspective of how much liquid resources a company has vs it's debt. If anything this would be the time to buy nvidia stock while it is cheap due to sky is falling people
Like above 8 series cards still playing everything is hurting amd and nvidia, that and the vendors wanting to get rid of current stock before the new generation releases I'm sure had nothing to do nvidia losing money.
Nvidia is targeting the rendering crowd right now, people who will spend millions of dollars to get the CG done this week instead of next week so that the post people have more time and they are less likely to not be done by whatever date marketing set.
ATI issues with not making any profit are mainly due to throwing money at a problem. They had cool tech they could not figure how to get it to work, so they threw money at buying out techs from nvidia, intel, ibm and where ever else they could find they but expensive ddr4 that was still in testing in a new design. That design did not work till AMD bought out the huge debt ATI had occured and put their cpu guys on the videocards infrastructure something AMD has always been good at. That debt is going to take decades to pay off. It would not surprise me that AMD had swapped people around from gpu and cpu teams until the best people they had were working on projects that make sense since the 3 series cards suddenly got better and pheon 2 suddenly was a decent chip. I'm just curious what AMD/ATI is going to due when intel and nvidia have real time ray tracing? Abet this is a ways down the road.
News like this is useful but should be taken in perspective of how much liquid resources a company has vs it's debt. If anything this would be the time to buy nvidia stock while it is cheap due to sky is falling people