Nvidia is preparing something SUPER

lostin3d

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Honestly the RTX 2080 Super is what the original card should have been. Due to the 3584 shaders of the GTX 1080 Ti, the aftermarket cards ended up being slightly faster than the RTX 2080 in many DX11 titles once both cards were overclocked. This new 2080 SUPER basically just barely pushes past a good aftermarket 1080 Ti in legacy titles. At least now Nvidia doesn't have to demand all reviews to compare to a reference 1080 Ti...

As far as 2080 going, I think a $599 price is actually pretty attractive and there's no reason to get rid of it. The 2080 SUPER allegedly has 4.3% more cores but also 15% more memory bandwidth. I'd anticipate about a 8-9% performance difference, which is basically the difference between the 1070 Ti and the 1080.

Totally agree on all fronts with this. The difference between the 2080/1080TI still causes people to constantly ask which to buy or upgrade. It's hard to get more lateral than that. At least this 'super' makes some sense and the price launch is totally reasonable IMO. I bought my Strix OC 1080TI a month after release for $749 so anything up to that seems reasonable.
 

lostin3d

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It was introduced with gddr5. If you hit error correction it keeps it from crashing but you'll lose performance as it redoes transfers. Go too far and it'll eventually crash.

Do you know if those errors are more related to chip lotteries or perhaps finer tuning for voltages, etc.? I mostly keep mine lower for heat/fan noise issues and to ensure the most power can get to the core but I tested all the way to 15.4Ghz before I started to have crashes and at that point the core was having a hard time holding over 2033Mhz. 14.3Ghz just seemed to be a sweet spot. I know I'm sidetracking on this thread but you got me curious. I've also been conservative with my voltage increases.
 

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Another update from Videocardz:

https://videocardz.com/81046/nvidia-geforce-rtx-20-super-series-to-launch-mid-july

Launch date is confirmed for Mid July.
Announcement date is unknown (can't confirm what WCCF said)

Pricing is NOT confirmed, but everything he hears says Super versions get old non Super prices.

They say Specs are also confirmed as the ones that Igor showed:
Igors-Lab-GeForce-RTX-20-Super-Specs.jpg


Taken together, I think the old 2070 and 2080 are EOL, and will be in the market only as long as it takes to clear stock. Old 2060 is probably the same, unless they are dropping the 1660Ti pricing to make more room for it.

So it's a spec boost, rather than a price cut which fits NVidia history well.

I expect they will try to get Super cards to reviewers doing Navi reviews, to change the competitive picture before Navi release.
 

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Another update from Videocardz:

https://videocardz.com/81046/nvidia-geforce-rtx-20-super-series-to-launch-mid-july

Launch date is confirmed for Mid July.
Announcement date is unknown (can't confirm what WCCF said)

Pricing is NOT confirmed, but everything he hears says Super versions get old non Super prices.

They say Specs are also confirmed as the ones that Igor showed:
View attachment 167532

Taken together, I think the old 2070 and 2080 are EOL, and will be in the market only as long as it takes to clear stock. Old 2060 is probably the same, unless they are dropping the 1660Ti pricing to make more room for it.

So it's a spec boost, rather than a price cut which fits NVidia history well.

I expect they will try to get Super cards to reviewers doing Navi reviews, to change the competitive picture before Navi release.

Well, supposedly Navi reviews are coming 7/7, I'd love nvidia to crash AMDs party. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::D:D
 

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Another update from Videocardz:

https://videocardz.com/81046/nvidia-geforce-rtx-20-super-series-to-launch-mid-july

Launch date is confirmed for Mid July.
Announcement date is unknown (can't confirm what WCCF said)

Pricing is NOT confirmed, but everything he hears says Super versions get old non Super prices.

They say Specs are also confirmed as the ones that Igor showed:


Taken together, I think the old 2070 and 2080 are EOL, and will be in the market only as long as it takes to clear stock. Old 2060 is probably the same, unless they are dropping the 1660Ti pricing to make more room for it.

So it's a spec boost, rather than a price cut which fits NVidia history well.

I expect they will try to get Super cards to reviewers doing Navi reviews, to change the competitive picture before Navi release.
Who in the world is Igor?
 
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sigh... Nvidia really knows how to screw royal buyers but making things just interesting enough for spending more.

I just dont understand AMD's lack of fighting back... and strange pricing scheme..
 

reaper12

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I just dont understand AMD's lack of fighting back... and strange pricing scheme..

AMD's lack of Fighting back? Where have you been for the last 10 years? They have no money. That they managed to become ultra competitive with their Zen CPU's is kind of amazing. With the console and streaming contracts that they have and their success in the CPU market, they will finally be able to put some more money into R&D. But, it will be a few years before any of this has any effect on their GPUs.

And what's wrong with their pricing scheme? When they price low, Nvidia outsell them, when they price high Nvidia outsell them. So, just price the cards to make a profit and don't over produce.
 
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