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Some recent controversy has been stirred up with PhysX though thanks to Windows 7 and its ability to run multiple graphics drivers on the same system - a feature that existed in Windows XP but was not available in Windows Vista. Since PhysX was never officially supported by NVIDIA on Windows XP, NVIDIA never had to deal with the dilemma of running PhysX in a multi-vendor system. With Windows 7 a user could in theory have a Radeon HD 4890 installed for graphics rendering and a GeForce 9800 GT for PhysX hardware acceleration - and in fact with early drivers this was possible. Now however, NVIDIA has disabled that feature as of the 185.85 driver set and caused uproar with consumers.
If Nvidia, in a show of good faith would re-enable PhysX support for systems with non-Nvidia GPUs that would be a great show of faith to gamers and help remove the tarnish on their less than reputable recent business practices imo. Will they do it? Probably not, but it would be a step in the right direction if they did.
Why do people assume Nvidia is obligated to provide PhysX support for their competitor's cards? They paid to acquire it as a selling point for their cards,they own the technology,they have every right to make it exclusive.From a business viewpoint,it's only common sense.
Why do people assume Nvidia is obligated to provide PhysX support for their competitor's cards? They paid to acquire it as a selling point for their cards,they own the technology,they have every right to make it exclusive.From a business viewpoint,it's only common sense.
Why do people assume Nvidia is obligated to provide PhysX support for their competitor's cards? They paid to acquire it as a selling point for their cards,they own the technology,they have every right to make it exclusive.From a business viewpoint,it's only common sense.
I honestly think that enabling Physx support for ATI + NV configurations would lose them a lot of sales.
please use your brain before opening your mouth, it is not about nvidia providing support for ATI cards, but it is nvidia disabling the support of the user's OWN nvidia card.
Remerber ati just does not want to license physx support in their own gpu. Maybe ati gpu really can't run physx because their stream method isn't that good compared to cuda?
His point is valid. It's so much that it can't be done and I would LOVE to see nVidia support multi-vendor setups, it's that there's GOING to support issues with this technology and then nVidia would have to deal other vendors drivers in addition to their own. That costs money and provides little to nVidia in return other than good will. Good will that would actually HURT their sales.
While it sounds great in theory its not that simple.
Put it this way, how would people feel if the new XFX-750 power supply they just bought suddenly decides not to provide juice to video cards that are Sapphire branded? People would say that makes no sense and call it bad business practices. How is what Nvidia doing much different?
ATI doesn't do PhysX because it would then have to pay a licensing fee to Nvidia for each video card they sold that did PhysX. The same way that any motherboard manufacturer that supports SLI must pay a licensing fee to Nvidia. It doesn't make sense for ATI to give dollars to a competitor for every card that they sell.
Unfortunately, that argument becomes quite flimsy when your able to run a simple patch and voila, you have ATI doing video rendering and your Nvidia card of choice doing the PhysX. I just don't buy it. If I patched PhysX and it was running with bugs or wierd performance issues then yes I would agree with your statement, but that isn't the case.His point is valid. It's so much that it can't be done and I would LOVE to see nVidia support multi-vendor setups, it's that there's GOING to support issues with this technology and then nVidia would have to deal other vendors drivers in addition to their own. That costs money and provides little to nVidia in return other than good will. Good will that would actually HURT their sales.
While it sounds great in theory its not that simple.
In SLI?As long as it still powers vibrators.
Unfortunately, that argument becomes quite flimsy when your able to run a simple patch and voila, you have ATI doing video rendering and your Nvidia card of choice doing the PhysX. I just don't buy it. If I patched PhysX and it was running with bugs or wierd performance issues then yes I would agree with your statement, but that isn't the case.
His point is valid. It's so much that it can't be done and I would LOVE to see nVidia support multi-vendor setups, it's that there's GOING to support issues with this technology and then nVidia would have to deal other vendors drivers in addition to their own. That costs money and provides little to nVidia in return other than good will. Good will that would actually HURT their sales.
While it sounds great in theory its not that simple.
As long as it still powers vibrators.
Once again we end up on the same topic...gpu physx vs cpu....
I'm currently running a GTX 285 and I'm playing through Batman: AA for a second time. Sure would be nice to be able to buy a Radeon 58xx for faster rendering and keep my GTX 285 installed so I don't lose out on the PhysX support in the game.
Once again we end up on the same topic...gpu physx vs cpu....haven't you realized how much faster a GPU is for this compared to a traditional CPU?
Maybe we should go back to CPU ALL processing and forget video cards and everything else....
Nevermind, it seems to be true, PPU has been disabled, GenL at http://www.ngohq.com/graphic-cards/16223-nvidia-disables-physx-when-ati-card-is-present.html is still working on enabling PPU's but right now they aren't working.
That's kind of a bad joke, the product you bought (a PhysX card) no longer works as advertised because you have competitors products in your system!
any who buys a card based on dx11 is a fool period. it is utterly pointless. its not 1996 its 2009 if it's not in a console dev kit, it's irrelevent.
I see no reason why ATI should free ride, when they were given a chance at a free license. and now after batman they have lost all credibilty. it's not Nvidia's job to pay thier egineers to get AA working on your cards and well as there's.
Where is the ATI that created the 9700?