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Nvidia folds better?

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Rydawg5143

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Thought I read somewhere that Nvidia gets more points or something? I wont trade my 6850 but my 2nd PC is a 4870. Would i beneficial to trade it for a similar priced Nvidia card? If so which one? Thanks
 
the sweet PPD/watt cards are the GTS450/GTX460, last I checked. Also I havent kept up 100% on this but the new v7 client seems to enable ATi to atleast fold some decent numbers, again im not certain if its still worthwhile to switch GPUs.
 
It indeed NV does still have an advantage.

Many sold their 4xxx ATI cards for a stack of 8xxx cards which wiped the floor with the ATI cards.

Now the v7 client shows promise of ATI getting decent points, but only for 5xxx and 6xxx cards. The current disadvantage is the fact that you need a dedicated CPU core assigned to each ATI card. That kind of puts a hurt on the PPD that your CPU can make. Hopefully soon they will move onto bigger work units that will reduce the CPU load for the ATI cards and get ATI fully up to it's potential. It might (I stress might) even exceed what the NV cards can do.

(you learn over time that predictions about PPD are merely that...... they don't always come to fruition.)

yea, a trade if you could swing one will net you far more PPD, as 4xxx will never be supported under the v7 client.
 
You have a few months left with that 4870 before support is dropped for folding. I would get rid of it now and move on. More detail here:

We want to give ATI donors a heads up that ATI does not support all of its GPUs with OpenCL (the series 3xxx are not supported and the series 4xxx does not have sufficient OpenCL support for efficient FAH calculations). For the short term, we will support both the older (Brook coded) ATI core 11, and the newer (OpenCL coded) ATI core 16, but we cannot support the Brook-based core for much longer. We plan to support ATI core 11 until September 1, 2011 (hopefully longer, but we want to get this on donors' radars). Closing support for a given platform is never a popular decision, but in this case, we have no choice due to the lack of vendor support of that platform

http://folding.typepad.com/news/2011/03/fah-support-for-ati-gpus.html



This also is interesting, but not sure if everyone here would agree with the recommendations:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/04/26/best-graphics-card-for-folding/1
 
This is a common question, and I think there needs to be a sticky for ATI folders.

- if you have a 5xxx card or later, try the new v7 client, but it will use a CPU core
- if you have a 4xxx card, there are some registry hacks to reduce CPU usage
- beware that ATI folding can really hurt SMP performance, so maybe avoid it on bigadv machines
 
So what card would best to trade or buy for 80-100 bucks Nvidia wise?
 
A used GTX260?

Thats about 8000 PPD, and if you find the right used deal, for just above your price range you can get 2.
 
You might (with jedi searching skills) find yourself a used GTX460 in that price range, it won't make as much PPD as a pair of 260s, but it will have more forward compatibility, and it will be single PCIx slot.

The GTX275 is also an extremely good folder at a reasonable price used.
 
Rydawg5143 said:
So what card would best to trade or buy for 80-100 bucks Nvidia wise?
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a used GTX 260 216 core (216 core part is very important) like jfb mentioned. also the GTX 275 when overclocked can hit the 10.5k to 11k PPD range on gpu2 WU's.

also note the G200 series cards are complete rubbish when it comes to the GPU3 non fermi WU's. so if you do go with a G200 based card make sure you are running the GPU2 client.

if you are a gamer both those cards mentioned will perform the same or better then the 4870. the 4870 is pretty close to the GTX 260 216 core performance in gaming but the GTX 275 is much better.

with the 6870 run the v7 client using the openCL core 16 client. you should get around 5-6k PPD out of it maybe a little more when overclocking. right now the openCL WU's are pretty basic. once they start releasing some larger WU's the PPD may go up or may go down on the 6870 depending on how large the WU's get.
 
If you watch the online stores (Tigerdirect and Newegg mostly) you can often get GTX 460's new for $80-100 after rebate. GTS 450 I have seen as low as $69 new onsale after rebates. These would both run the GPU3 client.

I thought they were going to be ending GPU2 support soon as well??
 
itsrickjames said:
If you watch the online stores (Tigerdirect and Newegg mostly) you can often get GTX 460's new for $80-100 after rebate. GTS 450 I have seen as low as $69 new onsale after rebates. These would both run the GPU3 client.

I thought they were going to be ending GPU2 support soon as well??
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Hence my suggestion that a 460 would have more forward compatibility.

I don't know of an established end date for GPU2 on nvidia, but there is an established end date for ATI 4xxx cards.
 
itsrickjames said:
If you watch the online stores (Tigerdirect and Newegg mostly) you can often get GTX 460's new for $80-100 after rebate. GTS 450 I have seen as low as $69 new onsale after rebates. These would both run the GPU3 client.

I thought they were going to be ending GPU2 support soon as well??
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who knows.. its always been we will be ending GPU2 support soon.. but the fact that they still haven't released any work units worth a damn on non fermi gpu3 i'm not sure how long it will be til they end it. they are still running small WU's on non fermi gpu3 which is why the g200 performance is rubbish. if they released WU's the same size as the current gpu2 wu's then the performance should be identical while having lower temps and lower video memory usage.
 
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