I'm not really certain how this post makes me an Intel shill... (or you are drawing a comparison using that) I never said that about Zen 2. I own a Zen 2 processor (3600), a 3400G, a GX200, a 2200G... As as well as Intel processors. My 3600 performed as good if not better than my 9600 in all things at a clock speed 700-900 MHz lower.
Big Navi exists, it is SPECULATED to be highly scale-able and an Nvidia 2080Ti "Killer". How many times have we heard AMD talk that kind of shit and then deliver an underwhelming product? That was pretty much their marketing approach until the advent of the 5700XT. Nothing like releasing the Radeon 7 as a stop gap measure to slow their bleeding in the market and then dropping support for the card less than six months later. If that doesn't build confidence, I don't know what does...
Nvidia is taking everything seriously. Because they're fucked and they know it. The future of graphics in the marketplace is in integrated, on die, GPUs and AMD and Intel (shortly) are already market leaders in this segment. The graphics cards are getting so good that their add on card marketing will only last so long as RTX, their inefficient ray tracing hardware propaganda, survives in the market place. They have failed to make a compelling argument as to why their hardware is essential. So, I see this as a means to eek out a little more performance while they wait for their 7nm process to be ready. If they can stave off AMD's claims, they just might survive another couple generations in the marketplace. If not, I am fairly certain that they are on the cusp of sliding into obscurity.
AMD has a bunch of ducks already in a row. While they really don't have Intel's market share, they have "hardware maturity" (cough) on the GPU front compared to Intel and they own the Console market, their GPUs are licensed to Samsung for their future smart phones and they are gaining market share in the CPU / Server / Datacenter spaces. Go AMD!
Who am I shilling for now?
Compare not calling but you explained so never mind