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Now if only they'd lower price of the 790i . . .
Not a chance in hell will I be paying $349 (NewEGG - less rebate) for a damn motherboard!!!
That's what I was going to say. I've been contemplating a new rig for about a year and I just wanted to switch from ATI to NVidia to give another company a shot to impress me.
shrink to 55 nm, redesign abit, get dx10.1 in, and get clocks up abit.I was really hoping a price war wouldn't start this quickly. That's really going to cut into the margins
Good for consumers, bad for manufacturers.
Do you manufacture video cards? Based on your sig you seem to be one of those consumers
Can you guess which? Do you manufacture video cards? Based on your sig you seem to be one of those consumers
I'm in the employ of one of the aforementioned companies
(Not in the future, but right now.)I had a G400 MAX and a TNT2 Ultra side-by-side and they traded blows pretty evenly, and I preferred the G400's picture quality. Matrox simply didn't have the engineers to compete (Although IMO, some design decisions that were made for the Parhelia were stupid, and if they had concentrated on fillrate and pipelines vs memory bandwidth, they might have competed)
I never enjoyed a windows desktop more than when I owned a G400.
Yes. Yes. We get it. You're trolling again and posting obvious flame-bait. Clearly, you care so very much that you need to say this over and over again, even creating entire threads about it in which you then turn on and attack those you claim to care so very deeply about. . . eventually leading to your temp-banning. We covered it. You're just that much of a big-hearted guy. No trolling here at all.
- against nVidia's new engineering and profit flop. I did that against the 2900XT (in other forums) and still bought one because I wanted to see how it could even work. Oh, and the convincing came later on.This post would have been a lot better if you gave any indication that you were capable of actually accepting that people can be knowledgeable and still disagree with you while making a different purchasing decision. It's also interesting how you have reversed yourself and now essentially agree with me that ATi doesn't really deserver gratitude because they didn't price these cards so low out of goodwill. Which, was, of course, my original point. It's just too bad that you've lost sight of your own original point and now can't really state anything but what everyone already knew and then go on to agree with me. . . and just wrap things up with more of your bizarre little partisan antics: "You bought a GTX280! You must have no knowledge and be stupid!"If you read up on ANY technical article on the HD4000s (Anandtech's is good) you'll know that the 4000s are easier and cheaper to produce. Heck before nVidia second price-cutted the 9800GTX (this news) the 4850 was sold at a LOWER price to the OEMs than the 9800GTX.
Die 2.5x the size? Ooh, and you should love yields too.
Power circuitry for a 230W chip? Volterra must be $$$ in!
512-bit bus? Nice, get a PCB with at least 12 layers for proper tracing. No cost-down boards made ever!
Oh, and did I mention the heat? Get Cooler Master's best cooler to do that, and $$$!
And ATI's pricing out of goodwill... my arse.
Informative and fun, yes, if you actually have some knowledge instead of going all mercy because you purchased one
Yes, and when a thread starts to die down. . . you feel the need to repeat yourself as though you've never said it before, and shed crocodile tears for those you've nakedly flamed in the past. Then you feel the need to start entire threads lamenting their fate. Threads that get you temp-banned, btw.
Hurin said:
Pardon me. But I think you have misjudged my intent and my message. I'd urge you to look at POPEGOLD's post history. He's the one talking about how everyone who purchased these cards got booty-raped, how he feels oh-so-sorry for them, when he's not subtly or not-so-subtly asserting that only a moron would have bought them in the first place. And these forums are replete with posts from him and people like him who constantly demean those who are willing and/or able to spend more on what they want.
So, regarding the price cuts: As expected, Newegg happily price adjusted my cards retroactively this morning. So no harm done. Heck, while doing it, they even noticed that my RAM had come down $10 in price and refunded that as well without me even asking.
Now, they did say that they were making a "one time exception" in this case. And your own mileage may vary. But I would expect that if you call and ask politely and nicely, they'd do the same for just about anyone as long as you call promptly as early within your 30-day return policy as possible. It's the people who call and act all butt-hurt that may get the shaft. You get more flies with honey than with vinegar, and all that.