NVIDIA CEO: We're Working Hard On Surface 2

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NVIDIA is hard at work on the Surface 2? Ugh, unless this version is less than $299 and comes without Windows RT, I don't see this going over well at all. I could be wrong though.

Even with a dud in the Surface RT, Microsoft is cooking up a sequel, a chip partner confirmed to CNET on Thursday. Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang told CNET that his company is "working really hard" on the second-generation Surface with hopes it will be more successful than its predecessor.
 

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Shows how clueless Microsoft is. The problem with Surface isn't the hardware.
 

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NVIDIA is hard at work on the Surface 2? Ugh, unless this version is less than $299 and comes without Windows RT, I don't see this going over well at all. I could be wrong though.

NVidia could only be working on the RT version, unless they have a secret x86 CPU project.
 

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Can I get Surface 2 Pro with Haswell, please.
 

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Clearly I'm biased, but I really like my Surface RT. As a media consumption device it's great. My wife uses it for Netflix and Kindle books, my kids use it for games, and I use it to surf the web. With the recent price drop I'm even considering buying a second one.
 

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The worthless overpriced underpowered power-hungry sack of crap Tegra 3 certainly didn't help Surface RT sales.
Yeah, but you wouldn't know that until after you bought it. What you do know before you buy it, is Windows 8.
 

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Again, I've got a bias of my own, but my Surface Pro has been a joy to use... replaced my laptop + iPad travel combination with something lighter, and does the jobs of both just as well, and even has a Wacom digitizer for Photoshop work if I really need it on the road, and that's something I didn't even have before with my dual device combo. It's really sad the marketing department did a terrible job with the products because they're actually fantastic.

I can't speak for the RT but I feel that had it came with Outlook from the start, and had that $299 or les price point, it would have been a serious entry into the tablet market.

Ultimately I just like to see as much competition out there as possible anyways. And I'd like to see more devices in the vein of the Surface Pro.
 

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The RT isn't that slow, at least not for most web browsing and the default apps (Office, Music, Weather, etc)

The only time I've ever seen it bog down much is when my wife try to load Facebook on it (so maybe that's a feature? ;) )

The battery life is very respectable. my verdict? For the $99 I paid for it at TechEd its an excellent device. Its just been overpriced at retail and the app selection at launch was underwhelming.
 

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Again, I've got a bias of my own, but my Surface Pro has been a joy to use... replaced my laptop + iPad travel combination with something lighter, and does the jobs of both just as well, and even has a Wacom digitizer for Photoshop work if I really need it on the road, and that's something I didn't even have before with my dual device combo. It's really sad the marketing department did a terrible job with the products because they're actually fantastic.

I can't speak for the RT but I feel that had it came with Outlook from the start, and had that $299 or les price point, it would have been a serious entry into the tablet market.

Ultimately I just like to see as much competition out there as possible anyways. And I'd like to see more devices in the vein of the Surface Pro.

Surface Pro is where the money is really, say what you want about Windows 8 , but on tablets it really shines, cut that price to 199 maybe and unless MS loosens up on its developer policies I don't see Windows RT going anywhere, added the fact that apps between the two needs to be develop separate doesnt not help, if they can develop SDK that doesn't bother the developers to think where what they are developing for, maybe, just maybe..
 

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It's possible that Microsoft's pumped up RT enough that it's actually capable of running third-party desktop apps now (in effect making it a pure ARM version of Windows), but I find that unlikely.

The Ballmer-led Microsoft has never been one for having aces up their sleeves.
 

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Could Nvidia be doing this because they need the support from Microsoft and nobody else is diggn tegra..cause surface rt is dead as in thats in the past lets move forward.
 

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The Surface Pro is fantastic. I'm in college and this laptop has replaced my notebooks. It's the only hand writing experience on a computer that's better than paper. Two of the students in my cal 2 class last semester bought themselves one after watching me use mine.

I couldn't ask for better hardware. MS just needs to figure out how to get that price, including the laptop keyboard, well under $1,000. The only way Windows RT can succeed is if they give it the same touchscreen as the Pro. The RT-equipped tablet would make a perfect OneNote machine.
 

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Maybe it'll use that new "project Logan" that they were showing off a little while back?
 

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I love my surface pro.
The 1080p wacom screen puts the device in the same price range as the Cintiq 13hd (Which is only a monitor that you can write on!) while delivering a similar experience. I only wish I could use video input on the surface to actually use it as a tablet for a more powerful system. It's replaced my work laptop and made my bag much easier to carry around.
 

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I'm not sure if the W8 HP tablet i got for evaluation is using the same W8 OS that all of you are praising, but i will tell you this, i absolutely hate that POS.

And it is using a atom CPU, which is fairly responsive, but no, i cannot enjoy, use or praise that horrible interface.
Yes, insult my intelligence, family and whatever you want, just stating my opinion.
 

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Lol, the surface pro was and is a great laptop. Surface pro with haswell would be amazing. I have a W8 slider that I got the day W8 went live for 1600 and I dont regret it one bit. I just ordered its successor the Vaio Duo 13 that has haswell and it looks to be a massive improvement on battery life and overall design. The Pro esque tablets are wonderful, full W8 with proper pen and touch inputs, full keyboard access to all your windows programs and the W8 app store (which still sucks but hey there isnt a os with a larger "app" base than windows). Plus now that I am back for my masters is a kick ass note taking device via OneNote.
 

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I want a tablet (so be it, if it must be ARM) that I can install BackTrack on as a dedicated PenTesting device.
 

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Not really enough room for it. You could Frankenstein a dGPU if it had Thunderbolt, but it won't.
 

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Honestly I don't know what is wrong with the Surface. I love mine, I use it for when I'm on the go with Office, Outlook for email, Reading, Games and surfing the web. It's a better device then Android or Apple tablets hands down. I think the real issue with it is marketing. People dancing with the device isn't going to help sell them.
 

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It's really just a matter of time before tablet PC's are the normal. I don't think Microsoft has to worry too much.
 

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It's really just a matter of time before tablet PC's are the normal. I don't think Microsoft has to worry too much.
You can't do serious work on a tablet. So depends on what sector you mean 'normal'. I wouldn't even consider one for even my taxes which are probably simpler than most.
 

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It's really just a matter of time before tablet PC's are the normal. I don't think Microsoft has to worry too much.

What Microsoft has to worry about is that they won't be Microsoft tablets running Microsoft operating systems or software. And they really should worry. Microsoft has been in the tablet business since the release of Windows XP in 2001, and they have spectacularly failed to learn anything in the last 11 years, either from their own mistakes or everybody else's mistakes.
 

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You can't do serious work on a tablet. So depends on what sector you mean 'normal'. I wouldn't even consider one for even my taxes which are probably simpler than most.

Guess i meant more along the lines of the tablet / dedicated keyboard dock connect hybrid. I can see where most people don't even have screens at home anymore because it's there tablet.

Basically a universal standard of a keyboard dock with extra HDD space when connected. Which in turn is connected to a cloud.
 

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It's really just a matter of time before tablet PC's are the normal. I don't think Microsoft has to worry too much.
It's either laptops-as-tablets or laptops with detachable touch displays (Apple filed a patent relating to this a while ago). The latter seems like it could be a greater marketplace win.
 

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Can I get Surface 2 Pro with Haswell, please.

Me too. I like the surface 2 pro as a true ultra-portable laptop replacement, but its battery life is dismal. A refresh of the hardware based on what they learned from the original, plus haswell, would be a pretty good all in one device to replace my laptop and kindle.
 

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It's really just a matter of time before tablet PC's are the normal. I don't think Microsoft has to worry too much.

I think MS has a LOT to worry about. Haswell puts apple just one step closer to putting OSX on a tablet. Think MacBook air, with retina, touchscreen, and removable keyboard.

If Apple was really leading the pack we'd be seeing this by the holiday season. As it is, they're lagging Microsoft as the first manufacturer to put a "real" mainstream OS on a tablet and make it work really well. OSX on a 9"ish ipad sized tablet would change the game.
 

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I think MS has a LOT to worry about. Haswell puts apple just one step closer to putting OSX on a tablet. Think MacBook air, with retina, touchscreen, and removable keyboard.

From the rumours around the web, it sounds like that's what we'll get with Surface Pro 2 (Haswell with removable keyboard containing an extra battery.) If that's what it ends up being, then MS has nothing to worry about. They'll definitely be ahead of the game.

Remember when the first Xbox came out and everyone thought it was a POS and could never beat the PlayStation? Look where it is now. I'd say MS is in for the long haul, and their first attempt at a touch OS is better than Android or iOS IMO. Just needs the app support.
 

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The Surface Pro is fantastic. I'm in college and this laptop has replaced my notebooks. It's the only hand writing experience on a computer that's better than paper. Two of the students in my cal 2 class last semester bought themselves one after watching me use mine.

The ink technology in Windows is very compelling especially when coupled with something like OneNote. Microsoft really needs to work on targeting the education market with pen enabled tablets. One thing that was curiously missing from all Windows RT devices were digital pens. With all of the problems facing Windows RT devices that didn't help.
 

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Clearly I'm biased, but I really like my Surface RT. As a media consumption device it's great. My wife uses it for Netflix and Kindle books, my kids use it for games, and I use it to surf the web. With the recent price drop I'm even considering buying a second one.

With the price drops, I'm considering one. Have you had experience with iPads? How do they compare? I've only used the Surface Pro for a short time. With the lack of desktop apps, I'm wondering how great they are....
 
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