nV40 performance figures up - Will you upgrade this round?

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pakotlar

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Well the cat is out of the bag so to speak. As you all know, about midnight last night, over at Beyond3d forums, someone with connections to an nVidia insider released performance figures and screens. All in all the information is pretty surprising. The nv40 will feature 175 million transistors, 16*1 pipeline configuration, a 475 mhz core speed and 1200mhz GDDR 3 ram speed (a2 spin). Beta drivers put the card at about 2x 9800xt with all the goodies on in ut2004. AA quality seems to be up a great deal, and there is even speculation that alpha tested textures are affected (whether this is true is unknown). Tests were supposedly run on a 2400 mhz a64. This information may very well be true (once again, we do not really know until april 14th). Now keeping in mind nv30 launch days, and holding on to a fair bit of skepticim, I would like to know. Who will upgrade this round?

What are you running today? I'm running a 9800 pro and I will probably skip this round. The performance increase seems nice on the new generation nv40, but I do not believe that a 2x increase is justification for me to spend 500 dollars (350 assuming I can sell this 9800 pro for even 150). What are your opinions? Discuss please.

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since some of you can't be bothered to read through the whole thread here are the links showing supposed graphics/perfromance figures from nv40. reliability is high on this one folks:

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10914
 
man i hope what was said on that forum is true...

i have a ti4200, and i skipped the 9800pro + XT round. waiting for the next cards. and ive been planning to get a nv40 or r420.. i have about 200 saved :( ...i could probally sell the ti4200 for a lil bit, but im still far away. 2x9800XT just sounds too good to be true.

please let their be a god and let prices drop like a fat ladiy's jugs.
 
I plan on getting what ever gives me the best preformance for my money. I'd like to see nvidia make a come back for various reasons, but i will see as i plan on getting a new motherboard with pci-e and athlon 64
 
Originally posted by topslop1
Don't upgrade. 9800 pro is good for years.
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heh i was thinking the same thing. Heck 9x00 series has barely penetrated the market.
 
Nice job on handing that cockmunch Tangirith his ass Pak. It saved me the trouble of registering just to flame him.

And I won't be doing anything until I get some D3 benchmarks.
 
Originally posted by Vagrant Zero
Nice job on handing that cockmunch Tangirith his ass Pak. It saved me the trouble of registering just to flame him.

And I won't be doing anything until I get some D3 benchmarks.
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You guys need to understand that Doom 3 benchmarks will be stencil-bound, very different from probably every other game engine out there. Sure there'll be D3 engine-based games, such as Quake 4, that follow suit in performance, but D3 is not going to be a good, generalized metric for future gaming.
 
^ unless the engine sees acceptance on the scale of the quake 3 engine, then d3 benches will be very relevant.
 
Originally posted by pakotlar
I'm running a 9800 pro and I will probably skip this round.
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Well if everything posted turns out to be true, that's great! That means ATi's offering will be that much better. :cool: nVidia will make great claims & more than likely ATi's cards will play them The Way it's Meant to be Played.
I will wait for ATi to enter the scene and then after the craze dies down pick up a good deal somewhere 3-4 mnths later. :)
 
1200 Mhz DDR3? Yeow. I thought the 730 (really 365) Mhz regular DDR on the 9800XT was fast.

Regardless, id wait for the final board reviews before making a decision. Given ATi's upcomings with equivalent memory and half decent corespeed increases it will be a nice fight for top again.
 
bah the worthwhlie pics are down, nothing much to see.
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LIES! ;)

I'll wait to see Brent as well as Beyond3D review this GPU. All we have now are some antialiased screenshots from UT2004 and Painkiller.
For all we know now, the FarCry and Halo numbers have been tested with forced PS1.1 either by drivers or by the game itself.

I hope nvidia decides that it's okay to let their users have real trilinear filtering this time around.
 
Gonna stick with my recently bought 9800 pro. There is no game I have that cant run maxed settings on so I think il be good to go for at least a year.
 
My Ti4600 is showing its age from my years of abusing it, I'll definitely be getting another high-end replacement.
 
I've been using my 3 year old GeForce3 for some time now and it's really suffering at the hands of Father Time. It has trouble running UT2003 with most of the goodies on.
 
I'm running a ti4200 now. Probably will upgrade this generation. I'm going with the best value high end card. Hopefully less then 300 !
 
ill be buying a PCI-Ex card to go with my new PCI-Ex board [when all are widely available of course :D]
 
Originally posted by leukotriene
LIES! ;)
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Niceness.....very purdy.

Regardless of who comes out ontop, I'll be sellin' off my 9800XT to pick up the winner. I guess I'm kinda rootin' for Nvidia though, lets get back to those good ol' GF4Ti days once again.....it's time to rock. :D

Then again, the r420 is looking mighty fine so far and I'm not counting anyone out until BOTH cards are available to the PUBLIC.....and the PUBLIC has done the testing.

Lets see those 3dmark scores skyrocket. :p
 
I'll upgrade if there is a new game out I want to play. Currently I'm just playing old stuff. Real old, like system shock 2.
 
I'll get either the NV40 or the 420 on their launch. I'm not waiting around any longer.
I held onto my Geforce 3 for a long long time, and recenlty built this new rig that currently houses an integrated Geforce 4 to tide me over for the next cards. The Geforce 3 did great for that time, I'm glad I saved money on not buying the Geforce 4, the Radeons, or the current FX cards, but it's time to release my load on the new cards. :p

I'd really like to start running games at high resolutions, I did 1024x768 for years, I think it's time to run Far Cry and Halo and Doom 3 and Half Life 2 and STALKER at 1600x1200. :D

Gotta wait for the benchies.
 
I'm sticking with my aging 9700 from 2002 until I'm in dire straits again. I'm running everything I have very easily, with the exception of BF:V and most of us know what is going on there. All I need is more RAM and I'm good to go. I doubt you'll see very many people with 9700s and better upgrading, unless they really have nowhere else to allocate that $$ :p
 
my 9700 pro is running everythin i throw at it, hell i probably wont even get another vid card with this system. PCI-e vid card = new mobo = new system!
 
I wouldn't call some guy on a forum reliable, but if those performance numbers are true and the image quality is improved like in those shots and ATi doesn't come up with anything better, I will be getting a NV40.
 
indeed, and with the quality of id's work im betting we'll see it again.

Originally posted by Merlin45
^ unless the engine sees acceptance on the scale of the quake 3 engine, then d3 benches will be very relevant.
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BF:V?

Originally posted by Mojo3k70
Gonna stick with my recently bought 9800 pro. There is no game I have that cant run maxed settings on so I think il be good to go for at least a year.
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Originally posted by Vagrant Zero
Nice job on handing that cockmunch Tangirith his ass Pak. It saved me the trouble of registering just to flame him.

And I won't be doing anything until I get some D3 benchmarks.
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haha thanks man. except it's vagmunch anyways... yeah she deserved it.
 
God some of you people get so Worked up about Stats than an unnown noob has posted over at B3D and Already you have ordered:p No wonder the 5800 had so many buyers lmfao.
all this is just making R420 that much better in my view:D
 
Originally posted by Hiyruu
Finally a card that can kill Far Cry.
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even this card only (nv40) handles far cry to a degree. 50 fps at 1600*1200 (reportedly of course)! Hopefully this figure goes up somewhat with more mature driver releases. This is not bad, of course, but if it can barely handle far cry with 1600*1200, how will it be able to handle far cry at 1200*960 with 4xfsaa? Asking too much? NEVER!:D
 
And for my third post :D :

Yeah I'm getting the feeling that a 9800 pro card will be able to handle upcoming dx9 (dx8 + minimal dx9 shaders) games just fine. While the new cards will be faster, I do not believe they will offer the jump necessary for many to upgrade. As computer software lags far behind the hardware's potential, the 9800 pro or xt makes a fine choice for 2004. Maybe I am making excuses because I have no money :).

To anyone who has not seen the beyond3d thread discussing the latest nv40 findings here is a linky. Enjoy...all 18 pages of it. Starting from page 1, a wonderful post by Vegetto-eX:


http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2

as we must give credit where credit is due, the Baron kindly imparted his nV40 wisdom to us first, with a beautiful picture of Painkiller running a "mystery card". Can you guess which card it is? :D


http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10914

(no cookies for this one folks :))
 
The GeForce2 ULTRA isn't very ultra anymore. The first of the $500 cards. Has it really been like 5 years? damn.

score of ~300 on 3dmark03 with a 2500+(at 3200+) :cool:

I think this summer is my time to spend another $500...well hopefully less then $500 :rolleyes:
 
No upgrades for me till next year.. my 9800 Pro @ 9800XT is quite good esp since I need to upgrade my cpu first!
 
Originally posted by KickAssCop
No upgrades for me till next year.. my 9800 Pro @ 9800XT is quite good esp since I need to upgrade my cpu first!
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Man, I should be saying the same thing as I'm sitting here with my 9800XT @ 442/810 but I just can't pass up new technology. ;)

Again, I really don't care who comes out ontop, as long as they can hold up to all these performance rumors that have been flying around. Nvidias said 475MHz core clock is nothing outstanding but that 1.2GHz GDDR3 is very impressive and I can't wait to see it in action along with their 16x1 pipe config.

Being that I was an Nvidia/3DFX fan for the first few years of my computer life I would be very happy to see Nvidia back in the spotlight.....I guess I AM kind of rooting for them. :D

As long as Nvidia and ATI get their cards out the door sometime this summer I'll be more then willing to pick one up.....it'd go all too well with my Prometia cooled 4GHz+ P4. :D I might get a seperate water cooling loop setup just for the video card along with the Prometia for the CPU.....just so I can get a little extra out of my new card too and keep my system very quiet. :cool:
 
Well, I just switched from my GeForce Ti4200 to a Sapphire 9800Pro (remarked XT). I was a diehard nVidia fan, you could tell me no less. There was a great deal, so i decided to try my 2nd ever ATI Card. Its working great, i'll be sticking with this card for atleast another year, unless i feel the need to build another computer.
 
Rather off topic

i'm kind of weary of jumping on the pci-e bandwagon just yet, I think if this new card comes out and blows me away i'll buy it in the AGP version and keep it for a while..at least untill pci-e matures for a while. Then I'll probably make the switch. I don't see the point in buying pci-e just yet..
 
I'll be sticking with my AIW 9800pro for quite some time, at least untill the newest chipsets are out and have matruered (no rev 1 boards) then I'll look at whats best.
 
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