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NT06-E question

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milas

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I bought an NT06-E to use in my SG01-F.

I am using the ASUS P5E-VM HDMI with Q9450. I also got a fan to attach to the NT06-E.

Well, everything is dandy except the NT06-E doesn't actually fit. In the orientation I would consider ideal, it hits the mobo heatsink nearest the CPU.
If I flip it 180, it hits the side of the case.
If I turn it to face the HDD bay, it will crush the RAM (mushkin DDR2 800, nothing fancy/huge)
If I turn it to face the back of the case (where all the external connectors are) it hits one of the connectors' internal metal plating (I think it's the VGA one).

I mean, this seems to be the most popular mATX motherboard, did Silverstone really not test it with it in its own case it is advertised with?

Also, on the Silverstone website, the cooling pipes seem to be at a 90 degree angle with the heatsink itself, while on Newegg/reality it's angled, which causes the problem. I don't want to break it trying to bend it though.

Does anyone have any suggestions/experience?
 
Okay, so I went ahead and bent it, which worked.

New problem, however. The fan mounted on top makes it impossible for the PSU to go in.

It's really frustrating that Silverstone recommends a case/PSU/cooler+fan to go together when they are incompatible. I can insert the PSU without the fan attached, although it will probably have about 0.5 mm clearance between the bottom of it and the heatsink.
 
If I am not mistaken, they recommend the fanless version, and then use a PSU with a fan on the bottom (or top, and mounted upside down) to draw air through the cooler. That allows one less fan in the case, and supposedly works fairly well. I'm not sure if you have a PSU that would work like that, but if so, that's how it's meant to be.
 
I'm about to order the same case, mobo and NT06-E cooler.

mrmylanman is correct; the NT06-E when used in the SG01-F is intended to be used without a fan and with a PSU (e.g., ST50EF-Plus-SC) that has a fan that pulls heat from the NT06-E and vents it from the case.

I'm concerned about what you are saying in regard to the heatsink angle. Are you saying the heatsink/fins of the NT06-E aren't parallel? If so, that sounds like a defect.
 
You're correct; the NT06 series heatsinks are designed to be used by themselves (or with a fan mounted underneath the heatsink portion) when used with one of the SUGO cases. However, very few PSU fans are designed to draw a lot of heat out of the case on their own, save for the Silverstone models. Even then, none of them could really handle a heavily overclocked processor.

But they're all based off the same design... it sounds like you have a bad heatsink.
 
Oh, okay. I do have the Silverstone PSU with the fan on the bottom, I hadn't even paid attention to the fan before.

As to the defective comment: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowI...NE+NT06-E+1+x+120mm+fan+(optional)+CPU+Cooler

It is tilted down. I just bent it up some (closer to parallel) to allow some clearance between the heatsink2 on the motherboard and the NT06-E.

Thanks for the comments, I was really bummed out by this whole ordeal because the Sugo manual was awesome and descriptive and helpful and then this manual was extraordinarily vague and I kept running into issues.

I'm about to put the case back together now; I'll post some temperatures and such for other people considering the cooler later.
 
milas said:
Oh, okay. I do have the Silverstone PSU with the fan on the bottom, I hadn't even paid attention to the fan before.

As to the defective comment: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowI...NE+NT06-E+1+x+120mm+fan+(optional)+CPU+Cooler

It is tilted down. I just bent it up some (closer to parallel) to allow some clearance between the heatsink2 on the motherboard and the NT06-E.
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Wow, I hadn't noticed that image of the NT06-E at Newegg. It shouldn't look like that. The picture on the Silverstone web site shows what it should look like:

NT06-E-SIDE.jpg


Out of curiosity, what PSU are you using?
 
I am using the ST50EF-PLUS SC edition (the short cable version).

It has the fan on bottom, so I assume it should be designed for this purpose.

I got it installed and everything looks good, except I am running Prime95 and my core temperatures are 70, 64, 66, and 65 respectively.

This seems really hot. Also, everytime I turn on the computer, the motherboard complains since there is nothing connected to the CPU fan connector.

Am I doing something horribly wrong?
 
It doesn't appear anything is horribly wrong. AFAIK 70c is about the maximum temp under load. If you're not exceeding that then you may be Ok.

See if there is a bios option to disable the CPU fan warning.
 
Keep in mind if you have a Q9450 that is a hot processor. Four cores running at a somewhat decent clockrate will inevitably create heat. I am running Prime95 right now in my SG01 with a Q9300 and my temperatures are
67, 62, 66, 58
for my cores. I just started it about 10 minutes ago, but when I ran cpuburn in Linux with the old stock Intel cooler, it ran up to 90C (that program is designed to make the CPU as hot as possible).
 
I was using RivaTuner's Core2 plugin because I already had it installed. Is there a better program?

mrmylanman: What cooler are you using?

Is there anyway to control the PSU fan? The mobo has a power supply fan connector, but I didn't see one on any of the cables from the PSU.

Also, does anyone have any experience in getting rid of the no CPU fan notification my motherboard gives me every time I boot? It's just annoying because I have to push a key to continue.
 
milas said:
I bought an NT06-E to use in my SG01-F.
I mean, this seems to be the most popular mATX motherboard, did Silverstone really not test it with it in its own case it is advertised with?
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NT06 came before the P5E ;)
milas said:
Also, does anyone have any experience in getting rid of the no CPU fan notification my motherboard gives me every time I boot? It's just annoying because I have to push a key to continue.
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I believe the option is under hardware monitor, a submenu under "power". It's been a while since I disabled it.
 
I ran Prime95 v25.6 (the multi-core beta) on it last night and got the first core all the way up to 74C when I stopped it. I was monitoring the temperatures with HWMonitor this time.
Intel lists the the thermal threshold at 71.4C, so I want to do something to lower my temps.

I'm using MX-2 thermal paste, and the Arctic Cooling website says to just put it in a horizontal line across the processor surface. I did exactly that, is there a better way to apply it?

Or are my temperatures most likely just the result of the NT06-E not being an efficient enough heatsink? If that's the case, I'd hate to see what would happen with a 130W processor...
 
milas said:
Or are my temperatures most likely just the result of the NT06-E not being an efficient enough heatsink? If that's the case, I'd hate to see what would happen with a 130W processor...
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You may be able to improve the efficiency of the NT06-E by attaching a fan under the cooling fins blowing up.

Also, Prime95 is a worst-case scenario and it may be that your actual temps running your usual applications don't get as high.
 
Hey Milas, I have the SG02B-F and I just plugged the 80mm case fan that blows over the hard drives into the cpu fan header on the motherboard and now I no longer get the message on boot up.

I've recently built nearly the same system with with the SG02B-F and a Corsair 620HX and am having the same heat problems. There used to be a thread that talked about changing the PSU fan for something that runs at a higher speed, but I haven't been able to locate that thread.

I'm going to open up the PSU this weekend and see how the fan is connected and may swap it out if it doesn't look too complicated. While I've got the machine apart, I'm going to try to mount a fan underneath the NT06-E blowing up.
 
What kinds of graphics cards are you guys using in your Silverstone cases. Also, what case fans?
 
I have a 4850 and about to swap out the stock cooler for the Accelero S1 Rev2.

As for case fans, I'm going to cut holes in the side and mount 2 120mm fans blowing air out of the side of the case...or, at least that's my plan.
 
I am using an 8800GTS but tomorrow I'm getting an SG03.

I am using 3 of the Silverstone 80mm fans. I don't really suggest them, they don't move much air.
 
i went with low-speed 80mm good 'ole Panaflo fans - have been their loyal fan for years now, and don't see any reasons to change. :)

/edit now that i think about it, it's actually mid-speed, 7-volt-modded. dead silent.
 
Well I got an NT06 and a Silverstone 700W power supply, and it works out fairly well. Idles around 50C, which is 5 degrees cooler than my Zalman CNPS8700, although it is now in an SG03, as opposed to an SG01. So it may be due to the two big fans on the front blowing air inside.
 
I'm using a GTX260, so that's generating a fair amount of heat. But it's temperatures are staying reasonable.

I'm using the stock Silverstone case fans.

For those who have wedged a fan under the NT06-E to blow up, what size fan has it been? Obviously a 120mm fan would be ideal since it's the same area, but I think it would hit other stuff on the mobo. I'll try messing with it.

I also have yet to install a case fan in the optional spot on top-left-middle. Would placing a fan there make a huge difference? I feel like it would just help my gfx card, but its temperatures are okay which is why I haven't bothered to install one yet.
 
I installed one there milas, but I also had a RAID card there that got fairly hot so I did it for that mostly. My graphics card stayed at a pretty good temperature after that though....

I guess you could maybe look at it like "if the graphics card is cooler, it's making less heat for everything else" lol.
 
Not really; if anything, it would simply take up more space (that you may or may not have).

The key thing about "passive" heatsinks is that they still need some sort of active cooling in order to draw heat away from the processor. The appeal of the NT06 series, for the most part, has been the fact that they're often positioned near (if not always directly underneath) the PSU fan, thus drawing hot air out.

Theoretically, you could place a 120mm fan underneath the NT06, but you would need a thin fan (IIRC, under 20mm thick). I've heard mixed reviews as to the effectiveness of this tactic, though... personally, I've never tried it.
 
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