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I install norton antivirus 2005, 2006 and norton systemworks fine but when I go to activate it, the screen does not respond and I can't click 'next' to continue to activate by phone.

Any suggestions...
 
Uninstall Norton and install AVG Antivirus Free edition or, if you're willing to spend money, NOD 32.

I know it's not what you want to hear, but it's the best advice I can give you.

 
Okay first, don't install 2005 and 2006, and then system works. First uninstall all Symantec Products. Then insert your System Works CD, go to the System folder, and run SymClean.exe; restart your computer.

Now, I'm assuming the version of System works is 2006, so install that first, and restart as needed. After the reboot, System Works should prompt you to register etc.. do that. (If it doesn't launch System Works, and run Live Update).

If System Works did not install Norton AntiVirus (which it should), then you can install ONLY the latest version of NAV.

*Finally, make sure you aren't running any other antivirus software like AVG or McAfee before attempting to install any of the Symantec products.
 
I have norton antivirus 2005, norton antivirus 2006, and norton systemworks 2005.
 
This will not be the first of your Norton problems.

Anyway, uninstall all the norton software you have on your computer, if any. Install Norton System Works, it contains Norton AV anyway.

Alternatively, you can never install Norton, and choose to use AVG, which is free, or NOD32 which you must buy, but is far superior to Norton. Just my opinion. :)

Hope that works, damn Norton.....
 
If you do continue to use Norton, you're better off not using System Works, as it is a complete memory hog. Better than that is to use the standalone antivirus program, instead of the all-in-one suite'.
 
I'm going to go ahead and agree with what has been said here. I've used Norton Systemworks 2001 - 2006 on my dad's machine, it was a major pain the ass to do anything, it destroyed the boot sector once too (dunno how). Now that I have my own PC with NOD32, the healing can begin.

Back to your problem, just install Norton AV 2006 as everything else is useless in Systemworks but get ready to most likely run into problems.
 
drdeutsch said:
Uninstall Norton and install AVG Antivirus Free edition or, if you're willing to spend money, NOD 32.

I know it's not what you want to hear, but it's the best advice I can give you.

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I totally agree. I've been using AVG for quite some time on a few different computers, and not a single problem with it. Not only does it work great, but it doesn't use up much resources.

http://www.grisoft.com/
 
on-topic answer: use norton 2006, skip the system works package (and internet security package as well).

off-topic: nowadays i prefer avg over norton due to the excessive bloating and longer intervals between virus definition updates. this trend has been getting worse over the past 3 years, and is even seen with the norton corporate software (versions 10 and up)
 
PTNL said:
on-topic answer: use norton 2006, skip the system works package (and internet security package as well).

off-topic: nowadays i prefer avg over norton due to the excessive bloating and longer intervals between virus definition updates. this trend has been getting worse over the past 3 years, and is even seen with the norton corporate software (versions 10 and up)
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I agree 100 percent. I see issues caused by Norton products every day I'm at work.

I've been using AVG myself, but I'm switching over to NOD32.
 
NFav said:
Which would you guys prefer...

AVG or NOD 32
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Both avast! and AntiVir are much better then AVG (all are free). If you don't mind paying for one either get NOD32 or Kaspersky. However, I would just use avast! It is a great anti-virus and it is free.
 
I use NOD32. You have to pay for it, but it doesn't use a lot of system resources, has an internet monitor, document monitor, email monitor, daily updates. It's great.

For free, though, AVG is great. I haven't tried Antivir or Avast, so I can't comment on them. I put AVG on my mom's computer, though. Works great, and I don't have to worry about her having to update it or anything.

 
If I had only $40 or so to spend
Id invest in the full version ProcessGuard and do the rest in freeware
AVG\AntiVir\Avast + Kerio Personal Firewall 2 + Firefox w\ noscript extention

there aint nothing that beats enumerating goodness and denying everything else
which means you have to learn what rules to write
 
KoolDrew said:
Both avast! and AntiVir are much better then AVG (all are free). If you don't mind paying for one either get NOD32 or Kaspersky. However, I would just use avast! It is a great anti-virus and it is free.
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Just wondering, but why? I've never used Avast or AntiVir. What makes them better than AVG? (I'm asking so I know if I ever decide to switch)
 
Ice Czar said:
NOD32 hands down
but then no single ap is a bulletproof solution
it has to be an indepth defense and NOD32 is simply one of the gatekeepers

Id also highly recommend ProcessGuard
more or less a firewall for the kernel itself

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=768776
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Listen, and learn. Otherwise, continue to deal with issues, whether they be a virus, or the Symantec program itself.
 
hmm..ive never heard of NOV32 before.....would anyone reccomend it over AVG free edition? does it take up less resources?
 
its one of the lightest scanners on resources
it also has been doing heuristic matching (not requiring updates) the longest
and was a pioneer in that approach, and is still one of the best at it
of course it also employs signatures,
and those are rolled out several times a day typically

as a side note, unlike Symantec\Norton, McAfee and Trend Micro
no one has yet to exploit it directly :p



and this would be well worrth a read

The contemporary antivirus industry and its problems By Eugene Kaspersky

and finally a basics tutorial everyone should both memorize and be able to answer pop questions on :p
The Antivirus Defense-in-Depth Guide @ Microsoft TechNet



.
 
and since following links isnt everyones strong suite


The Six Dumbest Ideas In Computer Security

#2) Enumerating Badness
Back in the early days of computer security, there were only a relatively small number of well-known security holes. That had a lot to do with the widespread adoption of "Default Permit" because, when there were only 15 well-known ways to hack into a network, it was possible to individually examine and think about those 15 attack vectors and block them. So security practitioners got into the habit of "Enumerating Badness" - listing all the bad things that we know about. Once you list all the badness, then you can put things in place to detect it, or block it.

The "Badness Gap"

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Why is "Enumerating Badness" a dumb idea? It's a dumb idea because sometime around 1992 the amount of Badness in the Internet began to vastly outweigh the amount of Goodness. For every harmless, legitimate, application, there are dozens or hundreds of pieces of malware, worm tests, exploits, or viral code. Examine a typical antivirus package and you'll see it knows about 75,000+ viruses that might infect your machine. Compare that to the legitimate 30 or so apps that I've installed on my machine, and you can see it's rather dumb to try to track 75,000 pieces of Badness when even a simpleton could track 30 pieces of Goodness. In fact, if I were to simply track the 30 pieces of Goodness on my machine, and allow nothing else to run, I would have simultaneously solved the following problems:


* Spyware
* Viruses
* Remote Control Trojans
* Exploits that involve executing pre-installed code that you don't use regularly

Thanks to all the marketing hype around disclosing and announcing vulnerabilities, there are (according to some industry analysts) between 200 and 700 new pieces of Badness hitting the Internet every month. Not only is "Enumerating Badness" a dumb idea, it's gotten dumber during the few minutes of your time you've bequeathed me by reading this article.

Now, your typical IT executive, when I discuss this concept with him or her, will stand up and say something like, "That sounds great, but our enterprise network is really complicated. Knowing about all the different apps that we rely on would be impossible! What you're saying sounds reasonable until you think about it and realize how absurd it is!" To which I respond, "How can you call yourself a 'Chief Technology Officer' if you have no idea what your technology is doing?" A CTO isn't going to know detail about every application on the network, but if you haven't got a vague idea what's going on it's impossible to do capacity planning, disaster planning, security planning, or virtually any of the things in a CTO's charter.

In 1994 I wrote a firewall product that needed some system log analysis routines that would alert the administrator in case some kind of unexpected condition was detected. The first version used "Enumerating Badness" (I've been dumb, too) but the second version used what I termed "Artificial Ignorance" - a process whereby you throw away the log entries you know aren't interesting. If there's anything left after you've thrown away the stuff you know isn't interesting, then the leftovers must be interesting. This approach worked amazingly well, and detected a number of very interesting operational conditions and errors that it simply never would have occurred to me to look for.

"Enumerating Badness" is the idea behind a huge number of security products and systems, from anti-virus to intrusion detection, intrusion prevention, application security, and "deep packet inspection" firewalls. What these programs and devices do is outsource your process of knowing what's good. Instead of you taking the time to list the 30 or so legitimate things you need to do, it's easier to pay $29.95/year to someone else who will try to maintain an exhaustive list of all the evil in the world. Except, unfortunately, your badness expert will get $29.95/year for the antivirus list, another $29.95/year for the spyware list, and you'll buy a $19.95 "personal firewall" that has application control for network applications. By the time you're done paying other people to enumerate all the malware your system could come in contact with, you'll more than double the cost of your "inexpensive" desktop operating system.

One clear symptom that you have a case of "Enumerating Badness" is that you've got a system or software that needs signature updates on a regular basis, or a system that lets past a new worm that it hasn't seen before. The cure for "Enumerating Badness" is, of course, "Enumerating Goodness." Amazingly, there is virtually no support in operating systems for such software-level controls. I've tried using Windows XP Pro's Program Execution Control but it's oriented toward "Enumerating Badness" and is, itself a dumb implementation of a dumb idea.

In a sense, "Enumerating Badness" is a special dumb-case of "Default Permit" - our #1 dumb computer security idea. But it's so prevalent that it's in a class by itself.
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the full version of Processguard and extentions like noscript for firefox and a good rule based firewall all alow you to enumerate goodness ;)

the drawback being your then the one that allows badness
which is why you still need an AV scanner to give you an idea if the file youve just downloaded is what it appears to be before you allow it to install and run

then there are direct exploits of the OS or an aplication (like the recent Windows MetaFile vulnerability WMF)
the only cure is hope a patch is released and you hear about it before your a victim

you can also cut down your attack profile (like standing sideways in a pistol duel)
dont use Instant Messaging? dont worry about that whole class of infections \ exploits
 
I say get rid of NAV and use AVG Free edition or buy NOD32...
 
NFav said:
I install norton antivirus 2005, 2006 and norton systemworks fine but when I go to activate it, the screen does not respond and I can't click 'next' to continue to activate by phone.

Any suggestions...
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Sorry I can't help with that problem because I don't use Norton, but

I highly recommend you purchase NOD32 (icedigger on the forums sells it for $35)

It is by far the best scanner I've ever used.
All those good things you hear about it - high detection, low resources, quickest scanning, updated frequently... well they're all true :)
I really have a hard time trying to find something negative about the product.
It also actively scans pretty much every file/website you download/open, and will notify you of a virus before it becomes a problem...

AVG is pretty good too, if you can't afford NOD32... but it's worth it to invest in a great scanner.
 
i dont use any antivirus software and i have yet to have any problems.
 
ozziegn said:
i dont use any antivirus software and i have yet to have any problems.
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Thats like going

"I dont wear condoms and I have not caught a Sexually-Trasmitted Desease"

Its not abt if you have its abt if you could, the Net is a filthy place you have just as much chance of catching summat going unprotected on the net as you have of catching summat from a cheap Vietnam Prossie
 
I've been a Norton user since the 3.11/Win95 days and switched over to NOD32 this year....haven't looked back since. It updates itself so frequently, it's scary
 
There are four things in my System Tray. All were selected for security reasons, and they all work.

1) PocoMail
2) NOD32
3) Kerio 2.1.5
4) ProcessGuard


SystemTray.jpg
 
mosin said:
There are four things in my System Tray. All were selected for security reasons, and they all work.

1) PocoMail
2) NOD32
3) Kerio 2.1.5
4) ProcessGuard


SystemTray.jpg
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Excellent list, mine is the same, minus #1.
 
I just bought ProcessGuard, and I don't think I'm going to regret spending $40 on it :)
I like it so far.
 
Yes, I have, and it is now my default mail program. Used to use Outlook...this just feels so much cleaner...not like dirty dirty Outlook.
 
I'll have to check out PocoMail too... how does that compare to thunderbird? I've just been using webmail. Been meaning to check out another program for awhile.
 
I'll see if I can get a reseller/wholesale account for pocomail so I can get it cheaper for you guys.
 
What bothers me is that I dislike Norton but use it, and have had issues with NOD32. I run a clean system but it seems like NOD freezes/spikes my computer randomly when viewing random pictures on Explorer.

The processor spikes to 100, and when i close it it drops. Only happens with NOD32 :(
 
Woot! Just got resellers account for poco mail so if you wish to purchase it I can get it ALOT cheaper then their website! Check sig for prices!
 
gemini8026 said:
What bothers me is that I dislike Norton but use it, and have had issues with NOD32. I run a clean system but it seems like NOD freezes/spikes my computer randomly when viewing random pictures on Explorer.

The processor spikes to 100, and when i close it it drops. Only happens with NOD32 :(
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I think you can disable the setting to check web pages.. strange that it would freeze up like that.
 
yes, it is strange, but I CANT isolate the problem, it's driven me nuts, HOWEVER, It could also be a firewall issue, as I only run the windows basic one....

Im lookin into it though!
 
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