Noob @ watercooling, Help with picking stuff.

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bostesseger69

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Ok, Well, first off I just got back from Iraq like 2 months ago so I'm a noob at everything computer again :).

Ok, so I got a new comp (IN SIG) with all the hazzard pay I had, spent most of the rest elswhere.

Where I need help, I've never watercooled any computer I've owned before.

So I need to know If my current case will be ok, or if I should invest in another one, or If remote mount is worth it/better.

Depending on what is reccommended I need a parts list.

I'm looking to spend under 500 shipped for watercooling supplies, and no more than 250 or so for a new case (If needed)....but as the case is with anything, anywhere I can save money is good!

I plan to do mild to moderate overclocking.
 
If you are willing to modify your case it will work just fine. Modifying could be as mundane as drilling a couple of holes for tubing to go through, or you could do something more.

As for parts, I would take a look at some of the kits on www.petrastechshop.com . Petra goes through and makes kits out of DIY parts, so you get the best performance from a kit.
 
Erasmus354 said:
If you are willing to modify your case it will work just fine. Modifying could be as mundane as drilling a couple of holes for tubing to go through, or you could do something more.

As for parts, I would take a look at some of the kits on www.petrastechshop.com . Petra goes through and makes kits out of DIY parts, so you get the best performance from a kit.
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Ok thanks.

Would is be possible to use 2 of the 120mm radiators in a loop?

http://www.petrastechshop.com/hwlablicegts2.html

I'm thinking to get 2 of those...mount one on the back of my case, and remove the harddrive rack in the front of my case and put on there.

Red areas are radiators.
Case.jpg
 
The cpu and gpu....is it worth it to cool the northbridge and southbridge, or should I just get some aftermarket air for them?
 
Welcome to the world of H20. I actually have quite a few parts that I'm getting rid of currently. I have a Swiftech MCP655 pump (one of the best available), 2x120 Radiator, Minires (another community favorite), and for cases I have a Gigabyte 3DAurora 570. Check out my thread for pictures etc.

My setup was that case, and the Swiftech Apex Ultra kit. Was easy to set up, and kept my opteron 2c over ambient on idle. Good luck on getting what ya need man, if I can save you some money just let me know.
 
I've done exactly what you're thinking about in that case - it works fairly well, and it's pretty easy on the modifications. If you decide you want to go back to air, or move to another case, you have still have an uncut case.

Good luck!
 
Khaosx said:
I've done exactly what you're thinking about in that case - it works fairly well, and it's pretty easy on the modifications. If you decide you want to go back to air, or move to another case, you have still have an uncut case.

Good luck!
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What were your temps like with the dual rads?

I was also thinking about moving my DVD burner/drive's down 1 slot each and maybe putting a bigger rad up top instead of the 2 smaller ones, any opinions on what would work better?
 
bostesseger69 said:
What were your temps like with the dual rads?

I was also thinking about moving my DVD burner/drive's down 1 slot each and maybe putting a bigger rad up top instead of the 2 smaller ones, any opinions on what would work better?
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Honestly, I don't remember. It was an AMD chip anyway, so the comparisons wouldn't be very valid. I do remember that the temps were acceptable, and better than I was getting on any air cooler at the time. Sorry :(

I actually had Frozen CPU send me a precut top for the case, and it sucked. The placement of the rad made working the cables from the PSU a pain in the ass. That was a single rad, and their placement was awful, but my point is that there is not a lot of space up there. I'd advise you to seriously look at a different case. I think you're going to be frustrated trying to put a large rad in the top of that case.
 
I'd get a nice Lian Li PC-V1200B or something... You can easily fit a triple rad up top, a single 120mm rad in the front, and even another 120mm rad in the exhaust!
 
Arcygenical said:
I'd get a nice Lian Li PC-V1200B or something... You can easily fit a triple rad up top, a single 120mm rad in the front, and even another 120mm rad in the exhaust!
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Second that - I've got the V1000 and I've got a double, with room for a triple, inside on the top.
 
bostesseger69 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112118

What about that one, looks like it has plenty of space, and cooling to boot.
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That's the one I have.

Erasmus354:

Pics are on the last page of the system photo sticky thread in this forum. With a double rad, I could fit a short PCI card in the either of the 2 PCI slots on my board, but using the 2nd and 3rd PCIe slots would be out of the question, unless I turned the rad around so that plumbing connections were in the front. If I did that, I could physically slot the card, but I'd be concerned about the airflow issues.
 
Khaosx said:
That's the one I have.

Erasmus354:

Pics are on the last page of the system photo sticky thread in this forum. With a double rad, I could fit a short PCI card in the either of the 2 PCI slots on my board, but using the 2nd and 3rd PCIe slots would be out of the question, unless I turned the rad around so that plumbing connections were in the front. If I did that, I could physically slot the card, but I'd be concerned about the airflow issues.
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Would you mind reccommending me a complete, gpu, nb, sb, cpu setup if its not to much throuble?

Even the one you have if its getting decent temps.

But as I said I have around 500 to spend besides the case so yea :-P.
 
case:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/gigz3dausior1.html

cpu block:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/dfuuncpubl1.html

gpu block?:(not to sure on the 8800gt)
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swstfucowafo.html

rad:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/hwlablicegts1.html

chipset:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcchco.html

pump:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/dadenlad5in1.html

tubing:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/1id3odmagepu.html

clamps:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/ststwohocl.html

fittings:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/ekhifig1th1o.html

tape:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/ptthta1wi50r.html

pt nuke:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/pepcobi1.html

clear uv blue dye:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/peuvbldye1.html


res:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmchire.html
if you dont want to use a res then get a danger den fillport


thermal paste:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/shx2thco1gr.html


fans:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/12scsysstcaf3.html

rad box:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcrre2raho.html



total should come to be around $300-$400(without the case depending on what you get and how much you get.)
 
dK`_unlimited said:
case:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/gigz3dausior1.html

cpu block:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/dfuuncpubl1.html

gpu block?:(not to sure on the 8800gt)
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swstfucowafo.html

rad:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/hwlablicegts1.html

chipset:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcchco.html

pump:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/dadenlad5in1.html

tubing:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/1id3odmagepu.html

clamps:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/ststwohocl.html

fittings:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/ekhifig1th1o.html

tape:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/ptthta1wi50r.html

pt nuke:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/pepcobi1.html

clear uv blue dye:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/peuvbldye1.html


res:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmchire.html
if you dont want to use a res then get a danger den fillport


thermal paste:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/shx2thco1gr.html


fans:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/12scsysstcaf3.html

rad box:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcrre2raho.html



total should come to be around $300-$400(without the case depending on what you get and how much you get.)
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Thanks!

Any second opinions? Everything looks good or can it stand improvments anywhere?
 
oh btw what i linked to you was pretty much my exact setup. (including the case) minus the rad(i have the 240 gts) minus the chipset. and i have a ek 8800gts block. but its keeping my q6600 @ 25c idle and 39c load
 
dK`_unlimited said:
oh btw what i linked to you was pretty much my exact setup. (including the case) minus the rad(i have the 240 gts) minus the chipset. and i have a ek 8800gts block. but its keeping my q6600 @ 25c idle and 39c load
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What are your clocks and volt's at?

Also...umm what is this thermoelectric stuff im seeing? Is it worth it?
 
Thermo-Electric coolers or TEC's are a power intensive way of cooling below ambient. You run a current through it, one side gets cold and one side gets hot. They are rather ineffcient, but they are one of a handful of ways to get below ambient, probably the cheapest way. I would stay away from them for now. (installation requires waterproofing your motherboard and possibly installing a secondary psu+relay)

I have seen too many horror stories and pictures to mess with TEC's myself.
 
KennyT said:
Thermo-Electric coolers or TEC's are a power intensive way of cooling below ambient. You run a current through it, one side gets cold and one side gets hot. They are rather ineffcient, but they are one of a handful of ways to get below ambient, probably the cheapest way. I would stay away from them for now. (installation requires waterproofing your motherboard and possibly installing a secondary psu+relay)

I have seen too many horror stories and pictures to mess with TEC's myself.
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Ok, cool, thanks bud.

I have another question :D lol im full of them.

Is there someway to like...chill the water going into the loop....or would that cause condensation?
 
bostesseger69 said:
What are your clocks and volt's at?

Also...umm what is this thermoelectric stuff im seeing? Is it worth it?
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right now im at stock.. clock/volts

but i ran it at 3.2 and temps didnt move too much.. 30c idle and 45c load
356x9 stock volts..
 
bostesseger69 said:
Ok, cool, thanks bud.

I have another question :D lol im full of them.

Is there someway to like...chill the water going into the loop....or would that cause condensation?
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thats what the rad+fans do lol

the fans push/pull air onto the pipes/fins and heat is extracted.
 
bostesseger69 said:
Ok, cool, thanks bud.

I have another question :D lol im full of them.

Is there someway to like...chill the water going into the loop....or would that cause condensation?
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You can chill water by say having a coil of tubing wrapped around dryice, or putting your rad outside during winter.

Yes any form of below ambient cooling causes condensation, whether it be TEC's, Cascade, or chilled coolant.
 
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