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Noob networking

p3sty

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Where's is there a good guide to setting up a home network. There are so many I don't know who to trust.
 
What are your goals? Types of devices, do you need a guest network, are you aiming for basic security features or advanced firewall and threat filtering?
 
The most important thing is to find out what your requirements are for your network. Then you research how to build it.
 
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https://www.wikihow.com/Create-a-Home-Network
 
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Easy to learn, difficult to master. Simply use an ASUS router, keep the firmware up-to-date, and follow the instructions. Hard to go wrong there.
 
Here is your guide:

Plug your internet into your router.

Then connect your wireless stuff to the wifi of your router and any wired ethernet devices.

If your router doesn't have enough wired ports connect an ethernet switch to it and connect your wired stuff to that.

It's that easy.
 
Well all of my smart tvs will be wired my Verizon modem has different wireless modes how should I limit those should I turn 5g off and only run 2g I want an efficient network that is secure. Is a guest nessary
 
Well all of my smart tvs will be wired my Verizon modem has different wireless modes how should I limit those should I turn 5g off and only run 2g I want an efficient network that is secure. Is a guest nessary
Use both 2 and 5. It will actually be faster if you use both.

I would disable the guest network unless you want to do something fancy.

Change the names and passwords of the wifi and change the admin password.
 
Use both 2 and 5. It will actually be faster if you use both.
^ This...

2.4ghz network is the pipe for those noisy/chatty devices like your doorbells, smart lights.. dumb things like that.. (or legacy devices that don't support 5ghz)
all other stuff that needs the 5ghz pipe gets put there... TV's, phones, gaming consoles, etc..
 
Tvs and consoles should be wired.
typically agree but it depends on if the TV's(or console's) nic is neutered down to 100mb and wifi is faster, like my sisters amazon tv....
 
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typically agree but it depends on if the TV's(or console's) nic neutered down to 100mb and wifi is faster, like my sisters amazon tv....

agree..

but... probably a gray area.. how many homes have wired ports , with structured wiring, and ability to wire their smart tv to the network...

probably just a few.. and maybe a few geeks that have pulled the wire...

Most people though - wifi that crap and call it good...

Wiring is a pain... dual-band, triple-band, quad-band routers...5ghz, 6ghz, and 7ghz wifi is good enough...
 
agree..

but... probably a gray area.. how many homes have wired ports , with structured wiring, and ability to wire their smart tv to the network...

probably just a few.. and maybe a few geeks that have pulled the wire...

Most people though - wifi that crap and call it good...

Wiring is a pain... dual-band, triple-band, quad-band routers...5ghz, 6ghz, and 7ghz wifi is good enough...
if they are on cable, like me, it might already be right next to everything...
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yup
 
Well, my dilemma is that the first floor has home runs my second floor is all coax. I was going to try Moca but I'm at a wall of sorts. In my mind I would get a Moca adapter connect the cable that feed upstairs then through a Moca compliant splitter hookup the 4 TV's upstairs but as I'm reading that's not possible. My Ideal home network is all TV's and pc's hardwired guest network turned off and the only wifi is for tablets and phones.
 
Well, my dilemma is that the first floor has home runs my second floor is all coax. I was going to try Moca but I'm at a wall of sorts. In my mind I would get a Moca adapter connect the cable that feed upstairs then through a Moca compliant splitter hookup the 4 TV's upstairs but as I'm reading that's not possible. My Ideal home network is all TV's and pc's hardwired guest network turned off and the only wifi is for tablets and phones.
I don't know if this is relevant per se. You're limited to the max speed of your moca connectors (max 2.5 gbps) and it's essentially a BUS as that point, shared speed.

How to Build a Multi-Location MoCA Network
  • One Adapter per Room: You need one MoCA adapter at your router to "inject" the internet signal into the coax, and then one additional adapter for each room where you want an Ethernet port.
  • Use a MoCA-Rated Splitter: Standard TV splitters often cut off at 1000MHz, which can block MoCA signals. Ensure your splitter is rated for 5–1675MHz or higher to allow data to pass between rooms.
  • Maximum Nodes: Most standard MoCA networks support up to 16 adapters (nodes) on a single coax tree.
  • Install a PoE Filter: A "Point of Entry" (PoE) filter is critical at the location where the main coax line enters your home. This prevents your private network signal from leaking to neighbors and reflects the signal back into your home for better performance.
It looks doable. I have no practical experience with this, so... YMMV.
 
agree..

but... probably a gray area.. how many homes have wired ports , with structured wiring, and ability to wire their smart tv to the network...

probably just a few.. and maybe a few geeks that have pulled the wire...

Most people though - wifi that crap and call it good...

Wiring is a pain... dual-band, triple-band, quad-band routers...5ghz, 6ghz, and 7ghz wifi is good enough...
For a lot of people it's just not worth it. I wouldn't do it for my TV if it wasn't easy. I have an unfinished basement and my modem, router and main switch are all in the basement so it's just run a cable across the ceiling, up into the wall, and terminate it at a keystone jack. Easy. But what if my basement was finished? That'd turn into a lot more work and cost real quick.

Second floor is far more complicated. I managed to run some cat6 up there during an HVAC job a few years ago when they were making holes anyway. I think I could get into one bedroom upstairs through the plumbing stack, but the other two rooms required piggybacking on a $26k HVAC project. Furnace, AC and new ductwork. Old ductwork was too small for AC, uninsulated, and ran through a vented attic space. They also had to tear walls open to run a refrigerant line and a drain line from the second floor down to the basement, which is what I piggybacked on to run network cables upstairs. The second floor hadn't had AC before. When I bought the place there was just a closet where a furnace used to be. Had a flue and a gas line, just no furnace. The previous owner was ~90 when he died in early 2017. His wife died about a year earlier IIRC. Neighbors say they had 6-8 kids. Based on my interactions when buying the place I think most of them are still in the area and the house has 3 first floor bedrooms, so I'm pretty sure they just quit using the second floor after their kids grew up and moved out.

At any rate I just wouldn't have wired networking upstairs if I hadn't managed to take advantage of that HVAC project. I did those pull on the spur of the moment. Wasn't really thinking about networking when I started the project, then just had this idea right in the middle that I could wire upstairs. No time to order stuff, just grabbed a box of cat6 from Home Depot. Thankfully the runs are short enough to run it at 10Gb.
 
Well all of my smart tvs will be wired my Verizon modem has different wireless modes how should I limit those should I turn 5g off and only run 2g I want an efficient network that is secure. Is a guest nessary
Random point I learned not long ago, TVs with wired connections are often only 10/100 ports. If your tv is fairly close to the router, you'll likely get more speed via wifi these days sadly.

Knowing that, I still wire mine when possible because I'm old and it makes me feel better. 😂

Edit to admit pedragon beat me to that point before and I skimmed past it.
 
wired is an old people thing i understand...im old

Well, I might be old, but my tvs don't buffer; they are all stuck at 100 mbps, which is totally sad, but pretty irrelevant when the only content that is close to that bandwidth is blu-ray 4k and they sadly don't have a have a way to network play those.
 
Well, I might be old, but my tvs don't buffer; they are all stuck at 100 mbps, which is totally sad, but pretty irrelevant when the only content that is close to that bandwidth is blu-ray 4k and they sadly don't have a have a way to network play those.
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Yeah, one of these days I'll figure it out. The network players that can do 4k discs from the network, with menus, hdr10+ (cause samsung) and bitstream audio all seem like more than I want to pay. And more hassle than just sticking the disc in the player.

Plus my projector now has a stuck mirror giving me a white pixel in the middle of the screen, so uggggh.
 
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