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comikehill2002

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I have this guy I work with say how the xbox 360( :rolleyes: ) is better than a gaming built pc, is this true? If not, I would love to throw some shit his way to get him to STFU. I know its better than what I have now, but I'll be upgrading soon...lol


Thanks to all that post.
 
The X360 is not a PC killer by any means. Its graphics power is roughly equivalent to a 7800GTX, but it has a relatively slow CPU and not much RAM.
 
so you're willing to argue with someone on a topic that you yourself can't already back up?

"help me win this fight guys!"

:rolleyes:

though he's probably doing the same thing with his claims: no evidence at hand.
 
Just tell him to let you know how his downloading of mp3's, checking his email, and lurking in the porn sites is working out for him on his 360.
 
http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2610

Anandtech did a review of it, inside and out.

- If you look at the GPU section of the review, you will see that they compare it to an ATI R420 core. This would be the X800 series, a relatively old graphics chipset. Though it has 48 pixel pipes, they are unified. So, in reality, you get roughly the same performance as a 7800GTX.

- Look at the CPU section. It has 3 cores, but the core speeds are not cumulative. So, the speeds should be roughly similar to a high-end dual-core system (read: X2 4800+).

- Computers can be upgraded...end of story.
 
The big thing that helps consoles is that the game vendors can build their game for the exact hardware. All 360's/playstations/nintendo thingy's will have the same hardware (give or take) so this allows vendors to optomize their games far more than they would be able to for a pc which has neigh infinite configurations.

But really a pc should most definitely have be able to have more power than a console.
 
Thank to all, cept to the asshat that posted this, nice flame....


barefootbilly said:
so you're willing to argue with someone on a topic that you yourself can't already back up?

"help me win this fight guys!"

:rolleyes:

though he's probably doing the same thing with his claims: no evidence at hand.
 
Way to put "NO FLAMING" in the thread title. It's like you already know that you're a moron.
 
imagine said:
Way to put "NO FLAMING" in the thread title. It's like you already know that you're a moron.

Not only that, but it's his ENTIRE thread title. There is nothing in the thread title about what the thread is, just him essentially admitting that he is flamebaiting.
 
I love the gpu in the 360... it has something of a "secondary graphics processor" with built in ram to process the anti-aliasing... which is why ALL Xbox 360 games will support 2x-4x anti-aliasing for FREE. Its a great idea, and I can see them using it in the future to provide "free" anti-aliasing in PCs... unless of course you have to code for it specifically, unless thats something you can do with drivers.
 
In all likeliness the XBox 360 is more powerful than any PC at the moment, and it doesn't bother me. It shouldn't bother you either. I mean, does it make you feel inadequate to find that a console has a technological advantage over your PC?

It shouldn't. PCs are more general-purpose anyways. Besides, you should judge a gaming platform on the games, not the hardware. Hardware merely enables great gaming.
 
Currently the XBOX 360 is more powerful than single card systems. This is due to the fact that game coders need only program for one specific platform, not having to code to make sure lower end hardware is supported makes games much faster.

It's like having to build a turbo for a million different cars with different configurations instead of just one. It wouldn't not be as fast.

And 48 unified pipes is still more than the 24+8 we have now, it also changes vertex/pixel pipes depending on need,so it's faster. The free AA also makes for nicer looking games.

I'm not sure whether an SLI setup bests the 360, but you can be sure that a 512GTX with a highend cpu (which will be slower than the specialized ppc) will have a run for its money.
 
there was a time when consoles were better, but that is becoming now a thing of the past, today pcs are just as good as consoles. of course if u have a high-end video card.

+ lcds, are a lot more pretty than old tv tubes.
 
I'm not convinced about the all games having 4xAA thing, because so far I've seen two games that don't use any (Call of Duty 2 and Kameo)

The 48 unified pipes being faster is debatable too - seemingly there are some limits to what the GPU can do with them per clock cycle. Anandtech worked out that, all things being equal, the X360 would have roughly the same power as a 24-pipe X800
 
Bona Fide said:
http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2610

Anandtech did a review of it, inside and out.

- If you look at the GPU section of the review, you will see that they compare it to an ATI R420 core. This would be the X800 series, a relatively old graphics chipset. Though it has 48 pixel pipes, they are unified. So, in reality, you get roughly the same performance as a 7800GTX.

- Look at the CPU section. It has 3 cores, but the core speeds are not cumulative. So, the speeds should be roughly similar to a high-end dual-core system (read: X2 4800+).

- Computers can be upgraded...end of story.

In the Anandtech article they posted a month or so ago, it listed the actual performance of the CPU as being relatively low compared to a PC processor, dispite the fact that it can execute 6 threads at once. The processor is highly specialized and really isn't comparable in the normal sense as we'd compare Intel's vs. AMD's.
 
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