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cb9fl

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It intrigues me. Many people enjoy it. Graphics on a handheld are important but can't compare to my hdtv so I'm certainly willing to deal with less then stellar graphics plus I'll be using it much less than a console. I don't dislike Nintendo. I greatly enjoyed their past products though one of my favorite games was Military Madness (Turbo Grafx 16).

For the purpose of this thread let it be known that I HATE everything about Animal Crossing and Nintendogs. I love FPS games like SoF2 (favorite), HL(2), Quake4. Kameo demo is really fun so I'm going to buy it.

As I put it in another thread I LOVE games with NO redeeming moral value. The more a game shirks social norms and attempts to defile human, social and religious interactions the more I love it.

Does the Nintendo DS have games that cater to my needs as much as or more so than the PSP?
 
wow... youre pretty precise about youre need...

well the DS is a great piece of hardware... but you wont get any GTA on it , well , maybe a 2D one ( there is one for the GBA). And for FPS , metroid will rock your world , online deathmatch :D.

but i think the PSP is the handheld youre looking for ... only for GTA and Socom ...

i own both by the way....
 
oh... and the DS is way more portable ... for the PSP you absolutely need a case... so it gets bulky
 
PSP is a joke in terms of quality of games.

The DS is innovation in it's finest form. There is a wide-array of games for it already. You won't find much like Quake 4 on the DS, however there are far better things that simple run-run-shoot-shoot games on it.
 
Thanks for an honest answer.

I have to state I also like games like tetris. Though because they're offered free by my cellphone and Linux I refuse to EVER pay for such archaic games.
 
cb9fl said:
Thanks for an honest answer.

I have to state I also like games like tetris. Though because they're offered free by my cellphone and Linux I refuse to EVER pay for such archaic games.
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I remember reading in some review that Lumines is like Tetris attack... Though I don't know how much truth there is to this.

Edit: The multiplayer side of it, that was...I think.
 
DS will have a tetris online game ... freaking awesome... there is also Meteos for the ds

but... the psp have Lumines... check out lumines please... its one of the best fucking game out there for the PSP... really... check out the review at gamespot...
 
The PSP does have a pretty darn good homebrew scene, if you're into that sort of thing. However, if you wanted to play the latest games for the PSP you may want to get two PSP's (one for homebrew the other fore official releases)
 
Red~Mage said:
PSP is a joke in terms of quality of games..
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Well I beg to differ. We have Lumines, GTA, Socom, and Burnout. If I recall correctly, it's only been somewhat recent that the DS came out with stellar titles. Nitendogs, Mario Kart, and Animal Crossings. Before that only 2 titles worth mentioning for the DS where Castlevania, and Meteos.
 
martinje said:
Well I beg to differ. We have Lumines, GTA, Socom, and Burnout. If I recall correctly, it's only been somewhat recent that the DS came out with stellar titles. Nitendogs, Mario Kart, and Animal Crossings. Before that only 2 titles worth mentioning for the DS where Castlevania, and Meteos.
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I thought Castlevania *was* a recent game... : /

From reviews that I've read the two games worth mentioning around Launch were Mario 64 DS and that Sonic game.... -shrugs-
 
Nitendogs, Mario Kart, and Animal Crossings.

Nintendogs seems retarded plus I have a real dog.

Is Mario Kart a sim or a pseudosim? I have PGR3 and it seems like a pseudosim and I'm happh with that game. Of all the possible words available in the dictionary the only way I can properly describe Animal Crossing is .. Idiotic.

Please tell me that's not all the DS has to offer. I want violence and destruction. Give me a game that kills three nuns, a jew and a baby and I'll buy it.
 
You won't like the DS. I'm not sure the PSP is up to your standards either, but its way closer to what you're looking for.
 
I dont think so. Metroid Prime hunters will have deathmatch but .... nothing like bloody grusome deaths... o_o
 
Red~Mage said:
PSP is a joke in terms of quality of games.

The DS is innovation in it's finest form. There is a wide-array of games for it already. You won't find much like Quake 4 on the DS, however there are far better things that simple run-run-shoot-shoot games on it.
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I disagree. Although the PSP is lacking in the amount of titles, it's picking up speed and seeing more and more releases. There's pretty much about 6 games that are must owns right now. To say that the DS has a wide-array of games is misleading because I went with the PSP due to it's lack of racing and action games.

Of course you won't find Quake 4 on the DS; You won't find it on the PSP either. You can find games like Socom, GTA, and Syphon Filter (not yet released) on the PSP if that's your thing.

and cb9fl, lol, if you're looking for a violent game, look up Infected for PSP. :D
 
cb9fl said:
So the DS really doesn't have great violence and destruction?
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I don't even understand why you made this thread..

the answer is no..

the most destruction you'll get as of now.. is Advanced wars.. age of empires.. metroid.. castlevania... splinter cell... 007 rouge agent.. I"m sure that's not your type of violence.. just go with the PSP if you're really concerned with violence..

i don't know.. you're not gonna get GTA type stuff.. that's for sure...

I think you started this thread just to start a flame war..

as you'r a noobie.. i'm just gonna say.. stuff like this (if it were to get out of hand.. which it can easily) might get you banned pretty fast..
 
xerus` said:
I dont think so. Metroid Prime hunters will have deathmatch but .... nothing like bloody grusome deaths... o_o
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It will have a death match (via DS to DS.. or internet)as far as i've read actually..

or maybe i'm interpreting what i'm reading wrong
 
Yeah. I meant, its going to have deathmatch, but nothing like cb9fl describes.
 
The DS is a sweet machine. I just wish the chat function worked over wi-fi.

Currently playing Trace Memory.

And yeah, Metroid will rock.
 
Why did you even bother starting this thread?
The PSP is obviously what you want. It has all your violence and lack of moral redemption covered with GTA. The DS was not meant for you. :p
 
He started it presumably to start a flamefest (Nintendogs is "retarded" and Animal Crossing, which is immensly popular on this message board, is also "stupid beyond words"). Go for the PSP if you want mindless violence, the DS doesn't have much of it. Especially not baby and nun-killing bloody gore tit fests. Better yet, get an XBox and be done with it, and enough DS bashing. /end thread
 
I don't see how this thread wont crash and burn like a truck full of gas flying off a cliff...


Anyways to the OP.

There are very few games on ANY Nintendo console that meet what your looking for. Expect most games to be playable anywhere with most people, and noone really get too offended by them.

Personaly I'm not easily offended by video games, but I get tired of games trying to hold a shock factor and thats one of the reasons I enjoy the DS so much. Not to mention there are other titles out there that are just completely outta left field compared to most games. Lost In Blue, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney and more.

I will say this cause its the truth, if you don't like much of the current selection then maybe the DS isn't for you. Not everyone will like it, and need to find their own cup of tea.

Also to everyone:

If you dislike a game, and are posting on a thread about the console or that game. Please state more then it is stupid, retarded, or such. Give logic behind your choice of disliking the game so others can see why you don't like it. If you haven't played it then honestly DON'T COMMENT.
 
i totally agree with the previous post.

check the library out right now... if it doesnt please you ... it never will...
 
im a diehard psp fan and i even think this is a stupid thread, wants locking, obvious flamebait
 
cb9fl said:
......... Give me a game that kills three nuns, a jew and a baby and I'll buy it.
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Dude, you are one sick little child. Did you not get enough lovin as a wittle boy? Go buy a PSP.
 
steviep I'm not DS bashing. I was asking a question and stating my preferences.

Does Nintendo have a monopoly on games developed for the DS? If not then why aren't their great bloody violence games for the system?

I'm just trying to compare and contrast the two systems. A PSP IMO is priced way too high for a handheld plus after the whole rootkit affair I'm certainly not a Sony fan. The DS comes in at the right price and has some great features. If it had some great "mindless violence" to accompany it I would certainly purchase it.
 
If not then why aren't their great bloody violence games for the system?
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Because game developers feel that they will not reach their "target audience". Plain and simple.
 
cb9fl said:
steviep I'm not DS bashing. I was asking a question and stating my preferences.

Does Nintendo have a monopoly on games developed for the DS? If not then why aren't their great bloody violence games for the system?

I'm just trying to compare and contrast the two systems. A PSP IMO is priced way too high for a handheld plus after the whole rootkit affair I'm certainly not a Sony fan. The DS comes in at the right price and has some great features. If it had some great "mindless violence" to accompany it I would certainly purchase it.
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i don't know how a monopoly will prevent them form having those violent games...

i really don't know why nintendo doens't have blood bath type of games..

the only answer ican provide is that nintendo is trying to aim for a broader audience.. they like to make (and give out licenses) for games that are more of a "for everyone" type game.. and when i say for everyone it doesn't nessarily mean kiddie..

i don't know whatever..

the bottom line is.. nintendo will not have any bloody games.. not any time soon anyway..
 
the only answer ican provide is that nintendo is trying to aim for a broader audience
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The DS having a bloody game doesn't mean a person is forced to own it. The DS has Nintendogs and I can certainly forgive them for that because I don't have to own it. As long as they have games for everyone their focusing on a broader market. If they lack games for a certain market then they are of course not focusing on a broader market.I still don't understand why the DS doesn't have any bloody games unless every single game developer sees it as a child's system which seems rather extreme.
 
I do think nintendo would sell more units than they already are doing if it did have a few more "mature rated" games. A bit like the N64, i liked mario 64 but still didnt want to buy the machine untill i saw KI2!!
 
cb9fl said:
The DS having a bloody game doesn't mean a person is forced to own it. The DS has Nintendogs and I can certainly forgive them for that because I don't have to own it. As long as they have games for everyone their focusing on a broader market. If they lack games for a certain market then they are of course not focusing on a broader market.I still don't understand why the DS doesn't have any bloody games unless every single game developer sees it as a child's system which seems rather extreme.
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to be honest.. i wouldn't mind some blood and guts in my DS.. but.. that's tno nintendo's style.. that's not how they roll..

if they did have "mature games" i think they very well could dominate the gaming industry.. but. theyr'e a bit hardheaded
 
Nintendo itself doesn't make too many bloody games (their philosiphy is "appeal to more than just the teen male crowd"), it's the third parties that aren't coming to the table. The Gamecube had enough for me, though (i.e. Timesplitters, RE4, many other multiplatform bloody titles). There is enough on the PC for me not to care about my DS being bloody, anyway. In the past (SNES) they were very strict about it... now - third parties can do whatever they want. In fact, there are rumours going around that NST (Nintendo's American development team) is working on a very "mature"-themed FPS title for the Rev's launch (i.e. "the halo killer"). I wouldn't care though, since I still believe that "mature gaming" is an oxymoron.
 
steviep said:
Nintendo itself doesn't make too many bloody games (their philosiphy is "appeal to more than just the teen male crowd"), it's the third parties that aren't coming to the table. The Gamecube had enough for me, though (i.e. Timesplitters, RE4, many other multiplatform bloody titles). There is enough on the PC for me not to care about my DS being bloody, anyway. In the past (SNES) they were very strict about it... now - third parties can do whatever they want. In fact, there are rumours going around that NST (Nintendo's American development team) is working on a very "mature"-themed FPS title for the Rev's launch (i.e. "the halo killer"). I wouldn't care though, since I still believe that "mature gaming" is an oxymoron.
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here's the problem i have with that...

if nintendo provided all types of games.. including bloody one's.. i wouldn't have to spend more money on a second system.. like Xbox360 or PS3.. or even PC parts..

you get me?? nintendo is basically forcing me to buy other systems because they don't give me all i want...

so i buy a nintendo (great).. but now to get bloody games i have to buy something else (like PC parts.. or Xbox.. whatever)..

where as.. nintendo can provide the blood and guts.. as well as what they noramlly dish out.. and i could probably be completly satisfied with just a nintendo.. so liek that i don't have to buy anything else.. and nintendo gets more of my money..

i like nintendo.. and i will still buy their products cause i liek the games.. but i think they would own the industry if they provided "mature" games as well..

a lot of mature games anyway.. cause the gamecube did havea ahandful of "mature" games..

i am 100% sure that peopel that are into "mature" games would liek to play a mario game every now and then.. and something more "kiddie" games... it's just.. "kiddie" games are on the top of their list. it's probably on their list.. but not at the top.. so that's why they go with xbox of PS2..

so i'm sure if nintendo had more mature.. it wuld benefit them greatly..
 
Most titles, aside from the exclusives on each respective system (i.e. the Halo/GTA) are multiplatform. The Gamecube, for instance, has most of the multiplatform 'blood' titles that anyone could ask for. It's just its image that's 'kiddie', not it's library for the most part. Plenty of my friends who own only Gamecubes are fine with it. The True Crimes, the Call of Duties, all that stuff is all on the cube, believe it or not :p

The only thing that the PS2/Gamecube don't have is all of those damn watered down PC ports that are on the XBox... which, as I've said before, I'd much rather play on the PC with a mouse.
 
steviep said:
Most titles, aside from the exclusives on each respective system (i.e. the Halo/GTA) are multiplatform. The Gamecube, for instance, has most of the multiplatform 'blood' titles that anyone could ask for. It's just its image that's 'kiddie', not it's library for the most part. Plenty of my friends who own only Gamecubes are fine with it. The True Crimes, the Call of Duties, all that stuff is all on the cube, believe it or not :p

The only thing that the PS2/Gamecube don't have is all of those damn watered down PC ports that are on the XBox... which, as I've said before, I'd much rather play on the PC with a mouse.
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well then.. i for one. .thinks nintendo needs to get rid of that image.. doesn't seem like they're doing much too.. anyway.. if they want the American market they will have too..
 
I guess I will participate as an NDS owner.

The DS is not what you're looking for if you want games that allow you to strangle, beat, maim, kill others just for the sake of doing it. GTA: Liberty City Stories is PSP only. ;)

Frankly though, I don't care if my games aren't violent and gory. You can have adult and mature games that don't carry the 'M' rating, or are filled with gratuitous swearing and destruction. The DS games out now are pretty much all ages types of games. Not just the stuff catering to the 18-35 crowd, but games that appeal to a wide range (like Nintendogs or AC:WW, or Advance Wars: Dual Strike).

This does hurt Nintendo in the console realm though, since both Sony and Microsoft consoles have a lot more such games that you desire. However, Nintendo have made progress since their nearly total control days of the SNES - the first Mortal Kombat had its blood replaced with 'sweat,' for example. MK 2, however, was pretty much untouched on SNES. Eh, whatever - I'd still have to buy a Sony console anyway, thanks to those RPGs Nintendo's consoles lack now.

For something edgier with more games catered to the older demographic, go PSP.
 
BillLeeLee said:
I guess I will participate as an NDS owner.

The DS is not what you're looking for if you want games that allow you to strangle, beat, maim, kill others just for the sake of doing it. GTA: Liberty City Stories is PSP only. ;)
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Not anymore... LCS is going multiplatform very soon, defeating the purpose of the PSP, basically, aside from Luminees. ;)
 
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