Nike Loves Cracked Software

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  1. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    When you can't get away with hiring cheap child labor in third world countries any more, you have to find a place to cut costs for $150 sneakers somewhere. Quest Software is accusing Nike, and has sued the company for using cracked software licenses for its software packages. You can read the complaint in its entirety here.



    “The audit also revealed that Nike had used pirated keys to bypass the Quest License Key System and made unauthorized copies of certain Quest Software Products by breaking the technological security measures Quest had in place,” Quest writes.

    “Upon information and belief, to obtain a pirated key for Quest Software Products, customers must affirmatively seek out and obtain pirated keys on download sites known to traffic in counterfeit or illegally downloaded intellectual property, such as BitTorrent.”
     
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  2. Kdawg

    Kdawg Gawd

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    get em. Fuck nike and their overpriced shoes.
     
  3. Cobra

    Cobra 2[H]4U

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    *sigh*

    BitTorrent is not a "download site". :facepalm:
     
  4. viper1152012

    viper1152012 [H]ard|Gawd

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    Pirating, just do it quietly
     
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  5. oROEchimaru

    oROEchimaru [H]ardness Supreme

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    kids these days dont work hard like they used to in the 1920s. /s

    I havn't bought anything from nike, gap or old navy in years because they treat people worse than shit. Gap/old navy are even worse if your against child labor... unless you like having kids live in cages.
     
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    dgingeri 2[H]4U

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    You just know there's some poor admin who was told "figure it out" that is now going to get fired because his manager pushed him into using cracked software for lack of anything else he could do.
     
  7. tungt88

    tungt88 [H]ard|Gawd

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    That admin was probably told to find an "innovative solution" in crude terms, or no more job.

    I only buy Nike products when they're on sale -- that's the real MSRP in my head, not the nonsense they consider appropriate to rob the public with.

    I suppose when everyone else at the executive table drives a Bentley (and you're the "clown" who drives a declasse Mercedes E-class), you've got to keep up with the Joneses, too ...
     
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  8. Draax

    Draax [H]ardness Supreme

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    Nike is just mad that Kanye makes more money on shoes than Jordan does with Nike so they are trying to cut costs.
     
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  9. nutzo

    nutzo [H]ardness Supreme

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    Don't use any Quest software, so I can't judge Nike in this case. However, some companies make licensing so difficult as to invite this type of behavior.

    As for me, I just refuse to install or support the software if their licensing is garbage. :D
     
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  10. Big_Rig_Stig

    Big_Rig_Stig Gawd

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    Sshhhhh! Let the idiots think that!
     
  11. Big_Rig_Stig

    Big_Rig_Stig Gawd

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    And y'all wonder why I wish for an asteroid strike...
     
  12. BSmith

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    Never understood why anyone would buy that overpriced crap anyway. Now I can use this for an excuse some people can get behind.
     
  13. Mugato

    Mugato Muh Feelz!

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    Ahhh it's IT related software, so doubtful a manager told them to "figure" it out, they were probably trying to move the budget numbers somewhere else. Each endpoint would cost X, if they could license the server for extra seats at no cost, could upgrade hardware (probably needed) instead. Don't be fooled though, Nike spends A LOT of money on security etc., I mean A LOT. There really is no excuse for purposefully downloading cracked software. Even for testing, just ask for a trial period.
     
  14. Zion Halcyon

    Zion Halcyon 2[H]4U

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    Hey! I used to work for Quest software for 6 years! Sorry, but that was kind of Novel. Hope they sue the shit out of Nike.
     
  15. That_Sound_Guy

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    FTFY
     
  16. elation

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    Not excusing what Nike may or may not have done but an FYI for everyone...

    Quest software has been bought out multiple times. Previously by Dell and now by some firm hell bent on suing everyone under the sun.

    If you use this software, make damn sure every plugin and bit of the software is properly licensed. Or better yet, uninstall it and use PLSQL instead. Their license scheme is a mine field and they'll nail your ass for it. The new company is more or less patent trolls. Be warned!
     
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  17. [21CW]killerofall

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    I bet a manager didn't have budget to buy more licenses but made it "work" anyway. This could easily cost Nike many millions of dollars in court. Assuming this is all true, that is.
     
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    Never bought a Nike anything. I avoid paying for a name when I can. And they are cheap bastards to boot.
     
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    Funny how all of the pro-piracy people on this website disappear or change their tune when it's a corporation being accused of piracy.

    I take that back, it isn't funny at all. It's pathetic.
     
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    Fortunately, I have big feet so go with New Balance and joesnewbalanceoutlet has some pretty good sales on my sizes occasionally -- who cares if they are florescent colors when they're 80% off. :rolleyes:
     
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    Whilst it would be nice to get all "Holier than thou" here I'm in a position whereby the only 2 brands that fit my feet properly for sports are Nike and Asics.

    Asics also don't sell one of those sports in the UK.

    I'll just wait until they are on sale......
     
  22. Master_shake_

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    nikes are what? 80000 percent profit?

    jesus. hope they throw the book at them.
     
  23. lostin3d

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    Wasn't there a story a few months ago about an A/V company discovering a number of U.S. government employees using cracked versions of windows on their work computers/laptops? Just sayin'
     
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    Nikes and crack go hand in hand. :pompous:
     
  25. Megaslug

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    Well, if it's the same Quest software I am familiar with, the "technological security measures" are pretty non-existent. You can build another server in another domain and apply the same license key, it doesn't complain at all, and you get the full quantity of licenses. Not saying it's right, but it's laughable for them to claim they have some elaborate scheme to prevent illegal copying when in fact they don't.
     
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    Question is can the judge/jury be made to understand that...and would it make any difference anyway? It smacks of lawyer speak though...probably got to say it to show you take the problem seriously or something like that. Why would they have a license key, if not to protect their property would be the argument, the fact that it's easy to defeat is neither here nor there (they will say).
     
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    it was kaspersky, if i am remembering it right. and then.. suddenly.. they were evil.


    as for sneakers.. man.. a few years ago i had to go buy a pair to use because i hurt my foot and my normal boots were just too hard on the foot to wear.. holy hell of neon... i actually had to look hard for some normal plain shoes
     
  28. USMCGrunt

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    Ugh..pirating Quest software? That's like stealing a pile of elephant shit. Worked with a few different Quest products and was not impressed...especially NetVault....
     
  29. Unexploded

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    Pretty much. Around here people (those that haven't been offshored) get the same sort of queasy look when anyone mentions Quest or Computer Associates.
    I don't remember WTH their AD migration product's name, but whatever it was, it wasn't ready for prime time when we were using it.
     
  30. RanceJustice

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    Now I personally don't know much about Quest softtware, how overpriced/shitty/proprietary their products are and their typical business policies; this would perhaps temper my feelings one way or the other. However, I do know that Nike is not known for great working conditions and other situations that make their high-priced apparel galling. So I may not exactly have sympathy for either side.

    Regarding piracy, I think its reasonable to have different feelings about piracy being used by individuals for no or relatively minor profit (especially when it comes to exceptionally expensive software packages) versus being employed by a for-profit corporation with the means to buy the software and significant profits, made even worse if they are known for being shifty in other ways. There are other nuances in the discussion as well, but I think the fact it is Nike, the prices of their items and their history and policies is impacting people's feelings. Hell, if it was some small activism-focused non-profit, a small business making something in an ethical and reasonable manner etc... I think people would not even ostensibly be "anti-piracy" much less "throw the book at em" the way they would be toward Nike, WalMart, Gap/OldNavy and others.
     
  31. bigdogchris

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    Why would the tech people do this, it's not their money!