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Banana King

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What does everyone think about the formats that Sony (Blu-Ray) and Microsoft (HD-DVD) have selected?
 
LeviathanZERO said:
I think this thread will die very soon.
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Personally Im wondering why this thread hasnt been closed yet.

The horse have been beaten to death, resurrected and then beaten to death again only to reincarnated as another horse and get beaten again. LOL j/k

** no offense intended, just tired of the format wars
 
Banana King said:
What does everyone think about the formats that Sony (Blu-Ray) and Microsoft (HD-DVD) have selected?
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I think they will drown each other in a pool of awesomeness

Good enough answer for you?
 
gilga said:
Personally Im wondering why this thread hasnt been closed yet.

The horse have been beaten to death, resurrected and then beaten to death again only to reincarnated as another horse and get beaten again. LOL j/k

** no offense intended, just tired of the format wars
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There, there, Santa forgives.
 
I think its to early to tell which if either will be the ultimate victor in this format war. To me its not as big a jump as it was from VHS to DVD. I mean some DVD's look just as good when played on up-converting players.
 
Blauman said:
I think its to early to tell which if either will be the ultimate victor in this format war. To me its not as big a jump as it was from VHS to DVD. I mean some DVD's look just as good when played on up-converting players.
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I have to respectfully disagree. Ever since I started watching HD-DVD movies, I just can't go back to standard definition movies anymore. I know that some titles are really bad, but the difference in image quality is incredible. There is also a significant difference in color accuracy and definition.
 
Blauman said:
I think its to early to tell which if either will be the ultimate victor in this format war. To me its not as big a jump as it was from VHS to DVD. I mean some DVD's look just as good when played on up-converting players.
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Point taken.
 
/me prefers Blu-Ray simply because it wins over HD-DVD in the data storage department.
 
junehhan said:
I have to respectfully disagree. Ever since I started watching HD-DVD movies, I just can't go back to standard definition movies anymore. I know that some titles are really bad, but the difference in image quality is incredible. There is also a significant difference in color accuracy and definition.
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Actually, I'd agree with Blauman. When my Yamaha DVD-C920 was working (about a four year old player now) some of the DVDs I had (the well mastered ones and Superbit titles) looked just as good as they did on HBO HD. Poorly mastered DVDs however, well, crap in, crap out.

Unfortunately the spindle motor on the Yamaha died and I opted to go with a Panasonic DVD-S97s to replace it (a 1080i upconverting player, with the never version of the Faroudja chip that the Yamaha had) and honestly, even with the upconverted resolution, I don't see the same quality that I had on the Yamaha. The version of the Faroudja DCDi chip my Panasonic has is known to suffer from the 'macroblock bug' and that might have something to do with it, but in general, I find that most sources look better on my TV over component than DVI (it is a CRT based HDTV rear-projection, Hitachi 57SWX20b, in the top three all time of HDTV CRT based sets, since shortly afterwards the high end went DLP/LCD/etc).

Anyway, a solid DVD player combined with a TV with an excellent scaler can produce great results.

That being said, I can't wait for the PS3 (my planned Blu-Ray player) to hit the market. Ever since MS announced HD-DVD I have been rooting for it to fail. Blu-Ray is the technologically superior format in every way, more space, less compression, and more scratch resistant. Plus, the move to a new laser technology will allow easier transitions to the generation beyond Blu-Ray.

It's a shame we have to have another format war ala the SACD vs. DVD-A battle before (in which both seem to have lost, as both are getting less and less press, though I still enjoy the DVD-A collection I have and plan on picking up more). When introducing a new technology like this the tech-heads and high-end buyers are always the first to adopt, and that is unfortunately a small portion of the market. Splitting that tiny portion makes it harder for either one to survive. I also just think MS sticks its head into way too many markets. With Vista being so overdue they should invest their resources into what they do best: making operating systems and office suites, and stop killing off the innovators in other fields such as Netscape or the Blu-Ray consortium.
 
Theres nothing bigger than 25GB from either side right now.
HD DVD looks better right now too. Toshiba has a 35GB thats not in production yet. Dont know about Sony. Either way noone has anything bigger than 25GB right now.
 
junehhan said:
I have to respectfully disagree. Ever since I started watching HD-DVD movies, I just can't go back to standard definition movies anymore. I know that some titles are really bad, but the difference in image quality is incredible. There is also a significant difference in color accuracy and definition.
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I dont all doubt that some do look much better than standard DVD's but the fact is that for the companies to puch the new tech and sell the players to the general public, harcore enthusiants dont count, they need to see something worth thier money. The switch from VHS to DVD was very clear. The switch from DVD to HD-DVD/BD is not as drastic a change, so IMO that will cause some people to just keep walking.
 
I believe the switch from DVD to HD-DVD is even more significant than the VHS to DVD switch. I can't say that i'm a hardcore enthusiast, but my eyes weeped in joy the first time I fired up a movie on my HD-DVD player. Now, I can't stand the lack of detail when watching a standard definition movie. Not only do you see an incredible amount of detail, but the colors are much more accurate and vibrant.

Leviathon, HD-DVD discs are 15gb per layer. Dual layer HD-DVD discs have been out since day one, and nearly every movie that I know of is shipping on the 30 gb dual layer discs. Toshiba is now working on a triple layer disc which will up the storage capacity to 45gigs. A majority of HD-DVD movies have superior image quality due to the fact that they are encoded using VC1, which requires far less space than Mpeg 2.

Beta-ray discs are 25gigs a layer, and that's what a majority of the movies are on. They are having a lot of trouble getting the 50gig dual layer discs to work, and thus arn't shipping them in volume. As a result, very few movies(mostly the newly announced ones) are shipping on 50gig discs. Only with these hard to manufacture 50 gig discs are they finally starting to approach the image quality of HD-DVD.
 
TDK has tested and proven dual layer 50gb Blu-Ray discs, and can start producing them as soon as there is demand.
 
NulloModo said:
TDK has tested and proven dual layer 50gb Blu-Ray discs, and can start producing them as soon as there is demand.
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So...... 2011?

i kidd, i kidd...
 
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