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I'm looking for an extremely good gaming monitor. I'd like less than 20ms input lag (0ms would be nice), good grey rendering, and almost non-existent afterglow. Color rendering and viewing angle are of secondary importance. I found a lot of interesting articles about the Iiyama brand, which seemed to fit the bill but unfortunately they aren't sold in the U.S.

Is there something that is a very close 2nd place?

Also, where do you go for monitor reviews or detailed information? I find that monitor specifications are always flubbed to look better so you really have to do screen tests to know how it truly performs. Is there some hardware site that still reviews monitors? The newest worthwhile article on monitors I can find is from April 2008...


UPDATE:
Well size isn't terribly important, anything greater than or equal to 22" will do. Viewing angle also isn't a priority, I sit directly in front of the monitor the whole time I'm using my computer. A TN display is fine, as long as it meets the specs I outlined originally. I prefer widescreen displays (either 16:9 or 16:10 is fine) and the minimum resolution I would tolerate would be 1680 x 1050. Budget is < $1000. Preferably < $500, but I'll make a concession for an extremely good monitor (or say a good one that is only offered in 26"+).


UPDATE 2:
After exhaustively searching Digitalversus.com and Tomsguide.com I've come up with the top gaming monitors of the bunch. Everyone has their own definition of what makes a good monitor, but there are some specific qualities that make a monitor more suited to gaming. Fast response times, little or no input lag, fast G2G reactivity (and thus low afterglow/ghosting), good contrast ratios, depth of black, and gray rendering are all important to gamers. Obviously if you're using your monitor for multimedia or graphic design you'll want good color rendering and evenness as well as little or no backlight bleed. These things were considered secondary in my analysis. Price/warranty was the final deciding factor between similar monitors and prices listed are MSRPs. That being said here are my top choices for gamers:

1) Samsung SyncMaster 2233rz -- $399 -- This is by far the best gaming LCD on the market. It knocks the others out of the park in terms of primary qualities and doesn't suffer from any serious defects in the other categories. Combine that with 120Hz refresh rate and you've got a CRT level gaming monitor. This monitor is more expensive than the very close second Viewsonic, but you can't beat Samsung's warranty and return policies (even one dead pixel and they'll exchange it).

2) Viewsonic VX2265wm "FuHzion" -- $299 -- The close runner up by a hair's breadth. It only has a slightly lower contrast ratio and depth of black. Also has a 120 Hz refresh rate. However, lacks an OSD menu for adjusting color or contrast. Price is about $100 less though, so you're getting a great monitor for just a little less.

3) Iiyama ProLite B2206WS -- $344 -- Almost zero ghosting (very close to a 120 Hz monitor), 0ms input lag, and great contrast/depth of black earn this monitor 3rd place. Unfotunately if you're in the U.S., you'll have to try to find this one overseas. It's only sold in Europe (and apparently Japan).

4) LG Flatron L227WTG (European model: L226WU) -- $399 -- Great all around monitor with excellent response and average input lag. It suffers a bit with contrast ratio, but nothing offensive.

5) Samsung XL2370 -- $299 -- This monitor scores top marks in all categories and is the only LED monitor good enough to qualify as well as the only screen larger than 22" (though admittedly it only adds one extra inch). The 1920 x 1080 resolution is a nice feature of the size increase as well. A great monitor if you don't mind the lowered contrast ratio, but you're not going to see a noticeable gaming performance boost with the LED.

6) Samsung SyncMaster T220 -- $280 -- A great all around monitor, but suffers from being poorly set at factory defaults. After setting the monitor up the right way it becomes one of the best on the market, and the price point makes it a nice budget buy since you can usually knock $50 off of MSRP if you know where to look.

7) Samsung SyncMaster 2253BW -- $295 -- Suffering from about 1 frame of afterglow, this is probably the worst response time on the list, but it leaps across the cut-off line by having superior qualities in all the other areas.

Lemme know what you think about this list.
 
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Patience, Grasshopper!

I'm not a gamer, so my advise is for you to give more input, so that a real gamer can share their opinion.

You've provided some helpful input, but maybe some more rudimentary input would get some initial feedback, like what size in inches do you want a new monitor to be. Then tell us what aspect ratio you prefer. And what what maximum resolution or frequency you want. Is a TN panel OK with you, etc.

Peace to you,
C. Livingstone
 
You want the best display for gaming?? Well, I come from a background of using the Sony FW-900... during the course of owning my FW-900 I tried out many many LCD's only to return them all...

However, I am pleased to say that I found the very best gaming display that comes close if not dead on to CRT performance... I can't say enough good things about this LCD!!! :)

Anyhow, check it out

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116402

I have been using this LCD for 4+ months and I am STILL in love with it... there are many times, while playing fast paced games, that I think to myself... damn, this is just like a CRT...

LIQUID SMOOTH! ZERO input lag... it is truly amazing! AND, it's a TN display... LOL.. go figure... I swore up and down that I would NEVER tolerate a TN display... but this display just owns... what more can I say?

As for background lighting... mine came perfect... I have little to no background lighting that is visible... I have bought enough LCD's to know that THAT is a bit more of hit or miss...

However, buy from Tigerdirect if you are so inclined... they have one of the best return policies out there...

Good luck!
 
Well size isn't terribly important, anything greater than or equal to 22" will do. Viewing angle also isn't a priority, I sit directly in front of the monitor the whole time I'm using my computer. A TN display is fine, as long as it meets the specs I outlined originally. I prefer widescreen displays (either 16:9 or 16:10 is fine) and the minimum resolution I would tolerate would be 1680 x 1050. Budget is < $1000. Preferably < $500, but I'll make a concession for an extremely good monitor (or say a good one that is only offered in 26"+).

Thanks for the suggestion raphash, I'm looking at it now. Do you have a website where they've reviewed this monitor in depth (input lag, reactivity tests, etc)? Also, is the listed contrast ratio static or dynamic?

And thanks for the sites vick, they're awesome, just what I was looking for!
 
Hopefully we'll see the invention of 3d monitors soon! btw, good luck with finding something that suits you....
 
After exhaustively searching Digitalversus.com and Tomsguide.com I've come up with the top gaming monitors of the bunch. Everyone has their own definition of what makes a good monitor, but there are some specific qualities that make a monitor more suited to gaming. Fast response times, little or no input lag, fast G2G reactivity (and thus low afterglow/ghosting), good contrast ratios, depth of black, and gray rendering are all important to gamers. Obviously if you're using your monitor for multimedia or graphic design you'll want good color rendering and evenness as well as little or no backlight bleed. These things were considered secondary in my analysis. Price/warranty was the final deciding factor between similar monitors and prices listed are MSRPs. That being said here are my top choices for gamers:

1) Samsung SyncMaster 2233rz -- $399 -- This is by far the best gaming LCD on the market. It knocks the others out of the park in terms of primary qualities and doesn't suffer from any serious defects in the other categories. Combine that with 120Hz refresh rate and you've got a CRT level gaming monitor. This monitor is more expensive than the very close second Viewsonic, but you can't beat Samsung's warranty and return policies (even one dead pixel and they'll exchange it).

2) Viewsonic VX2265wm "FuHzion" -- $299 -- The close runner up by a hair's breadth. It only has a slightly lower contrast ratio and depth of black. Also has a 120 Hz refresh rate. However, lacks an OSD menu for adjusting color or contrast. Price is about $100 less though, so you're getting a great monitor for just a little less.

3) Iiyama ProLite B2206WS -- $344 -- Almost zero ghosting (very close to a 120 Hz monitor), 0ms input lag, and great contrast/depth of black earn this monitor 3rd place. Unfotunately if you're in the U.S., you'll have to try to find this one overseas. It's only sold in Europe (and apparently Japan).

4) LG Flatron L227WTG (European model: L226WU) -- $399 -- Great all around monitor with excellent response and average input lag. It suffers a bit with contrast ratio, but nothing offensive.

5) Samsung XL2370 -- $299 -- This monitor scores top marks in all categories and is the only LED monitor good enough to qualify as well as the only screen larger than 22" (though admittedly it only adds one extra inch). The 1920 x 1080 resolution is a nice feature of the size increase as well. A great monitor if you don't mind the lowered contrast ratio, but you're not going to see a noticeable gaming performance boost with the LED.

6) Samsung SyncMaster T220 -- $280 -- A great all around monitor, but suffers from being poorly set at factory defaults. After setting the monitor up the right way it becomes one of the best on the market, and the price point makes it a nice budget buy since you can usually knock $50 off of MSRP if you know where to look.

7) Samsung SyncMaster 2253BW -- $295 -- Suffering from about 1 frame of afterglow, this is probably the worst response time on the list, but it leaps across the cut-off line by having superior qualities in all the other areas.

Lemme know what you think about this list.
 
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