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Discussion in 'Forum Help & Feedback' started by Mr34727, Mar 26, 2013.

  1. Mr34727

    Mr34727 2[H]4U

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    I am wondering what the deal with this is? I already have it installed on my browser, and now I get a large popup in the middle of the site when I sign on.

    Thanks, Max
     
  2. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    You should only see this once. Are you seeing it more than once?
     
  3. Chris_Dickson

    Chris_Dickson PC Hound / Hover Hound Lead Developer

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    Please make sure you have version 0.73.1 installed, if not update [N]ewZon. When you come back to [H]ardForum the message should be gone. In addition, even without [N]ewZon installed, it should only appear once per browser session.
     
  4. Kenjiwing

    Kenjiwing 2[H]4U

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    Ive seen it multiple times. Do you have to have it installed to make it go away?
     
  5. Chris_Dickson

    Chris_Dickson PC Hound / Hover Hound Lead Developer

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    If you have NewZon installed it goes away permanently, if not it should only appear at most once per day.

    If this is not the case, are you by any chance using a proxy service such as TOR?
     
  6. Brokennails

    Brokennails [H]ard|Gawd

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    Isn't there a less obtrusive way of revenue, like, lets say the banners you are currently using already? I use Amazon a lot as I have Prime but not everyone wants to go directly there from a Newegg link.... Newegg, I believe has better reviews sometimes.
     
  7. airs

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    This popup plus the Amazon redirect tips the scales...
     
  8. Gordo74

    Gordo74 Gawd

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    I agree. This is getting a bit ridiculous at this point. I think with the popups and ads, you're going to end up driving more people away from the site than you think.
     
  9. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    Thanks for your input. Keep in mind that Newegg cut us off and we are working hard to make up that revenue through Amazon commissions.

    Are you seeing it with NewZon installed more than once? Are you seeing it with NewZon not installed more than once a day? If this is not the case, are you by any chance using a proxy service such as TOR?
     
  10. wra18th

    wra18th [H]ardness Supreme

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    It works great for me on both Firefox and Chrome.
     
  11. Arainach

    Arainach 2[H]4U

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    Is once a day really necessary? If I don't want to install the plugin today, I'm not going to want to install it tomorrow. Quite frankly, I'll get annoyed enough to stop coming to the site before I get annoyed enough to install a plugin I don't want or need.
     
  12. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    We are playing with frequencies right now. We are weighing feedback.
     
  13. Brokennails

    Brokennails [H]ard|Gawd

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    It isn't just that. Every time I click a link I have a popup come up telling me how Amzon is saving the world, but I can continue being a horrible person if I want to resume the link to the original website (Newegg). Does it have to be every time? I get it, some people have the attention span of a nat, but really?


    EDIT

    Doesn't do it every time now that I have Newzon installed. But still, really?
     
  14. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    Would not expect you to pay a lot more from Amazon for the same product. Likewise we are easily showing you when you can save money at Amazon.

    What was not to your liking about NewZon exactly? Would love the hear specific feedback.

    We are dropping a cookie that should be read by your browser.

    Please keep in mind that this has been in production for less than 12 hours. If you give us specific feedback we do intend to fix things. We have weighed all feedback that we have gotten that points out problems.
     
  15. Chris_Dickson

    Chris_Dickson PC Hound / Hover Hound Lead Developer

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    If NewZon is installed, up to date, and enabled (and you aren't using multiple different proxies to access the web), it SHOULD disable all intercept pages, popups, and buttons on HardForum. Are you still seeing an intercept after installing the latest version of NewZon?

    If the green NewZon button is not to your liking via the extension while browsing Newegg, it can be disabled, reducing NewZon to a simple unobtrusive [N] icon in your URL bar.
     
  16. Mr34727

    Mr34727 2[H]4U

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    Hi, thanks for the responses!

    I believe the issue was that my laptop (which I haven't used in over a week) may have had a previous version on it.

    When I got home today, I noticed that my desktop does not do this in fact (only once, as you have mentioned).

    So, it seems that this problem is resolved.

    Thanks for all the responses, I did not intend for this to get into an Amazon/NE debate- I actually really like the addon.

    Thanks!
    Max
     
  17. DPOSCORP

    DPOSCORP [H]ardForum Junkie

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    I appreciate this thread, and a chance to learn what is happening and why.
    If newegg cut me off, I'd do the same thing, so I understand what Kyle is saying and doing.

    Keep up the good work.
     
  18. ComputerBox34

    ComputerBox34 Right in the Box

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    I've seen it twice in one day so far.

    Regarding frequency, I would do once per month at most. Maybe more often around Christmas time but once per day is obtrusive as others have said
     
  19. ltickett

    ltickett [H]ard|Gawd

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    Also, have you thought about those of us who don't live in the US? We will obviously never use Newegg so the plugin is of no use to us?
     
  20. NoxTek

    NoxTek The Geek Redneck

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    I feel bad for saying this because I love [H], but I think the new popup is downright obnoxious.

    Absolutely no problem with the Newegg / Amazon redirect page nor the NewZon plugin for those who want to use it. I think both ideas are awesome and pretty much give the finger to Newegg which they richly deserve.

    It really seems like the popup is punishing US (for not having the plugin installed?) and that... well... kinda sucks. I don't really see the purpose either - there are already Newzon links next to every Newegg link and posts about NewZon are all over the forum - I don't think the popup is bringing any new information to Joe User.

    But you gotta do what you gotta do I guess - it doesn't stop me from making the forums the first and last place I visit every day. :)
     
  21. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    We are working on dialing this in for regular users of HardForum so it is not so intrusive. We are only 24 hours in on being able to react to feedback.
     
  22. Qinsp

    Qinsp 2[H]4U

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    I buy several thousand dollars a year from Amazon. Last year was over $20k.

    However, Newegg has a better search engine for finding P/N's. I typically buy only stuff I can't get from Amazon at other sources, including Tiger, Ebay, Costco, NewEgg, ServerDirect, etc.

    When I see NewEggSucks constantly, I get a feeling somebody doesn't know much about purchasing. #1 is to find the right P/N, something nearly impossible to do with Amazon's current engine.

    So if you want to give purchasing advice, first learn how to purchase. You're not the Pope discussing Sex, right?
     
  23. Chris_Dickson

    Chris_Dickson PC Hound / Hover Hound Lead Developer

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    This is exactly why we made NewZon and the only thing it does.
     
  24. airs

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  25. Bomber18

    Bomber18 Limp Gawd

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    If you're looking for feedback it sucks having a pop up ad at all let alone multiple times a day. It's probably only once per ip address but if I visit the site on my phone, at work, and at home that's three times i'm saying no thanks and will get old very fast.

    If it's something that you feel you need to have maybe disable it for logged in users and for sure disable it for mobile browsing because just finding the x on something like a 4" phone screen is terrible.
     
  26. SuperSubZero

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    Put the popup where it's relevant, the Hot Deals and maybe For Sale forums. I don't really need to see it when I want to read about phones, displays or operating systems I'm not actually buying.
     
  27. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    We are tracking by IP now and adding cookie as well.
     
  28. AVT

    AVT [H]ardness Supreme

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    No pop-ups here at all with Safari on Mac OS X.
     
  29. wtburnette

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    Seems to have been taken care of now, as I'm not seeing the popup any more. Thanks for the quick reaction to feedback ;)

    Also, I, for one, appreciate this little plugin quite a bit and wanted to say thank you for providing it!
     
  30. ZenDragon

    ZenDragon [H]ard|Gawd

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    This popup is incredibly annoying. I realize they might be getting advertising money from amazon and not newegg. But damn it, I've donated/paid here several times to support the site though I will continue to buy from the sites that I have had the best experience with regardless of where you all get your advertising money. I do not want to install the damn chrome extension, I will not use it, and I do not want to be pestered by it every day that I log on. I've been a member here for over 12 years now, and would have never thought [H] would have stooped so low as to use nag screens.

    Give me the option, I will GLADLY donate again, but I do not want to keep seeing that stupid nag popup!
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2013
  31. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    You SHOULD not be seeing this multiple times. Could you give us some specifics of you seeing it multiple times? One system, multiple systems, multiple IPs, browser, do you have NewZon installed?

    Please keep in mind that the way you are seeing it work is NOT how we want it to work and are fixing bugs. You SHOULD only be seeing this once, if you are seeing it more than that it is NOT our intention.
     
  32. veilv0x

    veilv0x [H]Lite

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    Why use a popup at all? Just link it, have a static link right under the site name, have it next to relevant links, anything but a popup...
     
  33. JayGannon

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    I second this. Shouldnt be too hard to lock out Non-Americas users from this I would think. As we are not going to be part of the revenue calculations anyway.
     
  34. The Donut

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    Any chance of a geo restriction so EU users such as myself don't see it? We can't use it so why advertise it? :)
     
  35. Qinsp

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    Thanks! It went away.
     
  36. jimmyb

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    I have seen the popup for the past few days. I do not have it installed. I am on Chrome. I am accessing from multiple locations.

    It is mildly annoying.
     
  37. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    We will make this go away for European users the best we can. Should not take much.

    You are welcome. We are still working out bugs.

    Because that would not reach the 2 million unique users that come here every 30 days.

    Being done.

    Being done.

    This should not be happening. Are you seeing it multiple times from the SAME location or machine?
     
  38. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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  39. CaptNumbNutz

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    Thanks Kyle for your reply to my General Mayhem thread about this topic. :cool:
     
  40. Chris_Dickson

    Chris_Dickson PC Hound / Hover Hound Lead Developer

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    After installing the opt-out, it will take until tomorrow for those buttons to go away. There is a variable stored in your local storage that keeps track of that, so if you can clear localStorage (I think Chrome has an option to do that) they will go away immediately.