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Newer Nforce 4 driver emerges.........
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I didnt use any driver cleaner and it worked just fine for me, it shows up in the device manager.....i havent done any tests like overclocking or performance results.....i just posted it because i saw them coming out and god knows we needed WHQL drivers!
tripp.....if you dont use Driver cleaner (google it) some old files stay and slow your performance down a little......THATS why people use it...
Grab a download of driver cleaner pro
DOWNLOAD THE NVIDIA DRIVERS FIRST
run DC
select nforce chipset from the list and hit start.....reboot then install the new drivers that you PREVIOUSLY downloaded (you will have no net connectivity at this point if you use onboard LAN) and then after thats done installing...reboot....done!
http://downloads.guru3d.com/downloadget.php?id=745&file=7&evp=6a3a8ba0017b55b18df7d93c00b200c9
just hit accept to get the file...
Grab a download of driver cleaner pro
DOWNLOAD THE NVIDIA DRIVERS FIRST
run DC
select nforce chipset from the list and hit start.....reboot then install the new drivers that you PREVIOUSLY downloaded (you will have no net connectivity at this point if you use onboard LAN) and then after thats done installing...reboot....done!
http://downloads.guru3d.com/downloadget.php?id=745&file=7&evp=6a3a8ba0017b55b18df7d93c00b200c9
just hit accept to get the file...
InorganicMatter
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I think that's because nf4 mobos support hot-plugging SATA (at least, I THINK they do). It's really for a server situation. "Oh noess! The HD is busted. Stop the drive so we can swap it out without having to shut the server off." Correct me if I'm wrong.Jasonx82 said:Is it just me or now in my taskbar it has that safely remove hardware icon... My Raptor my only primary hdd.How do i get rid of it?
sac_tagg said:
That would only be for the RAID controller, not the south bridge SATA. I don't have the RAID controller enabled and I don't have a "safely remove" icon.
Under Windows XP, internal drives are not hot-swappable unless they are driven by a SCSI Miniport (RAID controllers, regardless of the physical type of drive they support, use SCSI miniports).
^ SATA is hot swappable...........
it reduces framerates...not to an extreme amount
ask anyone here.....theyll tell you the same thing
other than in games and very CPU intensive apps (stuff reading/writing from HDD alot and transfering data to memory) you wont notice it......
it could also be that the driver just performs lower than the other one..
it reduces framerates...not to an extreme amount
ask anyone here.....theyll tell you the same thing
other than in games and very CPU intensive apps (stuff reading/writing from HDD alot and transfering data to memory) you wont notice it......
it could also be that the driver just performs lower than the other one..
4b5eN+EE said:
Thanks for the tip......maybe you can tell, but im an Nvidia newbie i guess, i always was intel and ATI.....now im the opposite. Anyway, i didnt use driver cleaner i just went to control panel and erased all invidia drivers including the display drivers, reinstalled and my performance went up to where it should be. I used to get 13,900 in 3dmark2003, after the install of new nforce drivers it went to 12,800. Then after i erased and reinstalled the drivers it went to 14,000 on the nose. So, i guess your right and will be downloading DC soon. Thanks.
Everything is working great now, i used the DC and i couldnt be happier, thanks. I looked at all the files that my "remove programs" didnt get, its alot believe it or not. Anyway, no real performance boost but nice to know everything is WHQL and up to date. My 3dmark2003 is now over 14,000 with a single 6800GT.
4b5eN+EE said:
Read my post again. SATA may be physically hot swappable, but a SATA drive is not hot swappable under Windows unless its controller is supported by a SCSI miniport, rather than PATA emulation. South bridge SATA ports work in PATA emulation only, unless they are configured as RAID in which case they use a SCSI miniport (but RAID is a bad idea).
KC
No, that was someone else...
Although I was having some issues with stability after this driver install. I did not post it earlier because I had changed alot of settings and even the BIOS to 1004.001. I was having issues running BF:V at 1600x1200 online stable. I clocked down to default speeds and was still noticing issues, so I have reverted back to 1002 BIOS and switched from the Nvidia LAN (with firewall) to the marvell LAN without firewall and everything seems to be fine. I htought it might have been firewall related because I had been usinging the Nvidia LAN and Firewall version from the original Asus A8N-SLI CD, but when I installed these drivers I didn't update the LAN manager and Firewall app that cam e with this latest download (it asks you right after installing the 6.39 drivers if you also want to install the network apps)...
Anyway I dunno if my probs were fixed from flashing back to 1004.001 or switching LAN , but I do know that the DM 10 drive wasn't having any probs being detected in BIOS 1004.001, when I was using it. It might be a possibility that these drivers fixed the BIOS recognition problem, because I saw that other people whi switched to 1004.001 were having detection issues (this was before the 6.39's came out)
Although I was having some issues with stability after this driver install. I did not post it earlier because I had changed alot of settings and even the BIOS to 1004.001. I was having issues running BF:V at 1600x1200 online stable. I clocked down to default speeds and was still noticing issues, so I have reverted back to 1002 BIOS and switched from the Nvidia LAN (with firewall) to the marvell LAN without firewall and everything seems to be fine. I htought it might have been firewall related because I had been usinging the Nvidia LAN and Firewall version from the original Asus A8N-SLI CD, but when I installed these drivers I didn't update the LAN manager and Firewall app that cam e with this latest download (it asks you right after installing the 6.39 drivers if you also want to install the network apps)...
Anyway I dunno if my probs were fixed from flashing back to 1004.001 or switching LAN , but I do know that the DM 10 drive wasn't having any probs being detected in BIOS 1004.001, when I was using it. It might be a possibility that these drivers fixed the BIOS recognition problem, because I saw that other people whi switched to 1004.001 were having detection issues (this was before the 6.39's came out)
J-Mag said:
To answer Tripps' question real quick, I'm the guy who said the hell with it and switched to Raptors.
I had switched to 1004.001 on the ASUS before 6.39 came out, and 1004.001 did drop my NCQ drives too. My assumption is that it is a bit of both, 1004.001 and the drivers are what is allowing these drives to work. Only odd thing is that with 1004.001, sometimes my NCQ drives were dropped even before the operating system would load, so does make me wonder what will happen with that situation.
One thing I did note, it was usually only one drive out of two that got dropped on 1004.001, not both of them so perhaps 1004.001 was partially seeing them, if that makes any sense.
Also, with 1004.001 it didn't always drop them first thing, did sometimes take a few reboots on my end.
well i rebooted like 10+ times with 1004.001 and 6.39 with no loss of disc drives, but not knowing what was causing my game to shutdown during overclocking was starting to make me roll back to 1002.
If an app crashes but windows is still running you would normally blame the vid card right? (well if it was d3d or opengl)
I have been clocking my dual 6800GT's at 417core 1130mem, so I pushed them down to stock and was still getting dropped back into windows...
I guess my theory of the vid card to blame was no go and I am truely thinking it was a combo of the LAN driver and Version of Network Access Manager or the Firewall that were having incompatabilities... I will try to re-install the drivers again with the updated versions of the software and check for stability problems when using the Nvidia LAN
If an app crashes but windows is still running you would normally blame the vid card right? (well if it was d3d or opengl)
I have been clocking my dual 6800GT's at 417core 1130mem, so I pushed them down to stock and was still getting dropped back into windows...
I guess my theory of the vid card to blame was no go and I am truely thinking it was a combo of the LAN driver and Version of Network Access Manager or the Firewall that were having incompatabilities... I will try to re-install the drivers again with the updated versions of the software and check for stability problems when using the Nvidia LAN
J-Mag said:
You know, interesting that you do mention the video card. When I went to the MSI board, I hadn't done a strong OC on my two 6800GT's, but I did have the GPU at 6800 Ultras speeds...i.e. 400 core. Now, I can maybe do 385 core while using 6.39 Final as my chipset driver....I can't quite finish 3dMark 03 without going that low at least.
I never put in the firewall driver and software, just the Lan Driver itself, but I am also using the NVidia port.
Could be coincedence, but since you mentioned it, I'd say it since it is somewhat similar.
Installed these drivers on my A8N-SLI and now I can't boot back into windows.
When I first installed these drivers they worked fine but my 3dmark score dropped over 300 points. I used drive cleaner as recommended and then reinstalled the drivers and now I can't boot into windows. I can't even get into safemode, do I have to reinstall windows now?
I am guessing drive cleaner removed something I needed that the new nforce4 drivers didn't have, probably something to do with my raid, that usually is what causes all the trouble.
When I first installed these drivers they worked fine but my 3dmark score dropped over 300 points. I used drive cleaner as recommended and then reinstalled the drivers and now I can't boot into windows. I can't even get into safemode, do I have to reinstall windows now?
I am guessing drive cleaner removed something I needed that the new nforce4 drivers didn't have, probably something to do with my raid, that usually is what causes all the trouble.
sticky2, I had the exact same issue (see my thread on driver cleaner). I had Dual Raptors in Raid 0 as my OS drive, used driver cleaner and then when I rebooted Windows kept saying there was data corruption.
I have just put this rig together, and my first instinct was that this had something to do with my Maxtor DM10 NCQ drive causing data corruption, even though the OS wasn't running on that drive. Since I hardly had any data on my OS drive, I just killed it and reformatted with a fresh install, however in retrospect, there may be an easy way to rebuild.
My suggestion is to plug in your floppy drive with the floppy of the nvidia RAID drivers that came with your mobo, then boot up the Windows XP installation CD, and go to "repair installation". Make sure to hit F6 to load the RAID drivers off the floppy first, then you'll actually be able to access your OS drive. Then try copying the files off the floppy into C:\Windows\System32 or C:\windows\system. That might do it.
I have just put this rig together, and my first instinct was that this had something to do with my Maxtor DM10 NCQ drive causing data corruption, even though the OS wasn't running on that drive. Since I hardly had any data on my OS drive, I just killed it and reformatted with a fresh install, however in retrospect, there may be an easy way to rebuild.
My suggestion is to plug in your floppy drive with the floppy of the nvidia RAID drivers that came with your mobo, then boot up the Windows XP installation CD, and go to "repair installation". Make sure to hit F6 to load the RAID drivers off the floppy first, then you'll actually be able to access your OS drive. Then try copying the files off the floppy into C:\Windows\System32 or C:\windows\system. That might do it.
Arvig said:
Have you controlled for ambient temps?
Also, I have noticed different abilities for overclocking my GT's when the PSU is connected differently (i.e. 2 clean molex lines w/out any other power leeches going to each part of the molex to pci-e adapter)
I wouldn't think that the chipset driver would slow down your GT overclock.... And is this with one or two?
BTW I put a 120mm panaflo fan over them when running at 417 1130 it usually drops their temps down to about 28-30C idle as read through the driver control panel (nTune seems to read completely different / much higher values...)
J-Mag said:
My power supply is a PC Power & Cooling 510 SLI, so each video card has it's own six pin connector, no y-splitter going from the six pin to two molex.
And it is with two cards at once, I'm running two 6800GT's in SLI mode. Stock heatsinks on both cards. I'm using NVtweak to enable the driver control panel overclocking utility. I don't have a fan directly on them, but I do have a 120mm blowhole...generic fan, but rated about 80cfm or so, so heat is coming out at least.
sticky2, no I never repaired the installation. I wasn't really sure what the problem was at first so I just decided to wipe the drive and reinstall. It only took about 20 minutes.
Yeah, unfortunately, the whole reason for upgrading the nForce drivers was to see if it would help with my Maxtor NCQ drive not being recognized, but it didn't. So I think I'm either going to need a new BIOS from Gigabyte or new firmware from Maxtor.
Adrian
Yeah, unfortunately, the whole reason for upgrading the nForce drivers was to see if it would help with my Maxtor NCQ drive not being recognized, but it didn't. So I think I'm either going to need a new BIOS from Gigabyte or new firmware from Maxtor.
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I have a question then guys, Should I upgrade to these latest drivers, as I did yesterday and my OS was messed up and had to do a repair install, or should I just keep what I got going with. I use the nvidia lan, and should I disable that one and go with the Marvel lan?? If so will that fix my issue when install these new nforce drivers??
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this asus board is pissing me off to no end. Tried the updated drivers and the new bios and still nothing going for my hd. If I use the Silicon Image Raid controller will my hd's work and I need the proper driver to make it work for some reason the drivers on the site do not work and I unfortunetly do not use a floppy drive anymore.