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Newbie questions

3Bar_Mopar

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1. I have a Seagate ST31012A 1 gig HDD from a WebTV (don't ask, lol) and I want to connect it to my computer, which is a Dell Dimension 3000. Is all I need a "Y" ATA ribbon cable? There's already an extra power cable in the case.
Also...to config...what do I have to do to get the OS to recognize the drive?


2. I have this Dell. It's mine, but I'm moving out and my mom has a bunch of files on here that she wants to keep. She'll be getting her own computer soon. How can I connect the two computers and copy her files to the new one? Can I just connect them with a cable, or do I have to use a router? I need to do this as cheap as possible and I have no money for a router or hub or anything like that.


Thanks!!
 
1). It depends on what file system is already on the drive, if it's readable or not. Hardware-wise, just configure it to the correct setting (master or slave) based on your existing configuration.

2) You can use a crossover network cable to hook both computers up, and share out one of the drives. You could use burn the files to CD or transfer them with something like a USB thumb drive.
 
djnes said:
1). It depends on what file system is already on the drive, if it's readable or not. Hardware-wise, just configure it to the correct setting (master or slave) based on your existing configuration.

2) You can use a crossover network cable to hook both computers up, and share out one of the drives. You could use burn the files to CD or transfer them with something like a USB thumb drive.

1. Is there a way I can format it to a clean, empty drive so I don't have to worry about what file system is on there? WebTV probably has some kind of funky shit on there.

2. How available are network crossover cables...IE, can I get one at radio shack?

Also...how feasable is it to remove my HDD and install it to the new computer and copy files that way?

Thanks, I really appreciate this!
 
1 - Yes, just go to the disk management mmc snapin (right click my computer > manage > disk management) from there you can delete the existing partition, create a new one and format the drive.

2 - Yep the shack should have you covered :)

edit: The shackless way as you mentioned would be to just hook your drive up to her machine as a slave, boot up and copy the files over. Very easy and free!
 
dirtydr said:
1 - Yes, just go to the disk management mmc snapin (right click my computer > manage > disk management) from there you can delete the existing partition, create a new one and format the drive.

2 - Yep the shack should have you covered :)

edit: The shackless way as you mentioned would be to just hook your drive up to her machine as a slave, boot up and copy the files over. Very easy and free!

One last question......when I hook the two computers with the crossover cable, what do I have to do to get them to interact with each other? Do I just plug in and go?
 
You need to give them the same workgroup name (optional, but helps) then you need to hardcode in an IP address for each. The subnet and gateway should be the same...and the IPs are close...for example:

192.168.1.5 for computer A
192.168.1.6 for computer B.
 
I'm sorry I keep bugging, but I'm new to this.

Do you access that info in "network connections"? Do I have to use the "bridge connections"? Or do I have to use the wizard?
 
You need to find the TCP/IP settings in the Network Configuration areas. You haven't given us the important info, such as what OSes are installed on both computers, so I can't go into detail any further. If you really have never set up a network before, I think it would be much easier for you to just pop the drive in another computer as a slave and copy the files off that way. It's only my opinion, but any house with two computers should have a broadband connection, with a home network setup, but again that's just my opinion.
 
A person has to ask questions to learn.

djines suggestion is by far the easiest way to go but a fast and very loose guide is as follows;

From network connections, right click > properties on your network connection.

You should then see a number of items in the following window. Double click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".

Tick "use the following IP address" then enter 192.168.1.5 for the IP (192.168.1.6 on the 2nd machine) and 255.255.255.0 for the subnet mask. Click ok and restart if prompted.

One more time back to the properties of your network connection. You need to have "File and Printer sharing for microsoft networks" listed and checked in the same window as "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" on both machines.

Once both machines are setup as mentioned they should be visible to each other in the "network neighborhood". You may need to map the opposing machines drive but try browsing from the NN first.

You can do a quick test to verify the machines are communicating with each other by going to start > run then typing ping "opposing.machines.ip.address" (minus the quotes)
request timed out means something is not configured correctly.
 
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