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That Petra's kit will give you excellent bang for the buck. If you are wanting to cool 2 GPU's though it probably wouldn't be enough. You should go with at least a tripple radiator.

If you are asking which watercooling components the guy has in his system from your link, it's all in his sig. CPU cooler is a D-TEK Fuzion v1 and GPU blocks are EK FC4870's.
 
What CPU and GPU's?

Each chip has a different power requirement and thus heat output... Cooling a Q6600 and 2 4870x2's requires a vastly different setup than an E8400 and 2 4850s ;)
 
Siriusmuzik said:
I am looking for something simple like this:

http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1033421245&postcount=615

Would love to cool CPU + 2GPU

Does anyone know what he has?
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I can help answer any questions with regards to my current setup.

There are two loop orders:

The CPU loop contains a D-Tek v1 Fuzion block with pro mount kit, Feser Xchanger 240 radiator, MCP355 pump with XSPC reservoir +top combo, Tygon 3603 1/2" ID/3/4" OD tubing, BP compression fittings (4), BP 90 degree rotary 1/2" (1) with Feser One Blue cooling fluid, San Ace 120mm x 38mm Fan (1), and one Yate Loon Low Speed 120mm fan

The GPU loop contains two EK HD4870 Acetel full cover blocks, an MCR220 radiator, MCP355 pump with XSPC reservoir + top combo, Tygon 3603 tubing, BP compression fittings (3), BP rotary fittings (3), Feser One Red cooling fluid, and two San Ace 120mm x38mm fans

Both pumps have UN System stands custom painted Red, and the reservoir fill lines use Danger Den fill ports. Hope that covers everything.
 
I love the MCR220 radiator, but I'm not sure if it'll be enough for you (plus obviously you'd have to buy the GPU blocks.)

Assuming your compy is the one in your sig (q9550 OCed + hd 4850 xfire) you'll be sucking down about 325W into those components. I don't know what your relationship to noise is like, but if you run two scythe UKs at 2 KRPM you'll have a temp delta of about 8.5C. Your processor has a max temp of 71.4C, and I think those cards can go well above 100C, so if your system is running full bore it will shut down when the ambient temperature (how hot it is outside in the room) hits 37C, or 98.6F. If you want to run the fans slower, medium speed yates at 1.5 KRPM would only restrict you another 1-2C, so up to 35C ambient. Of course, all of the above is "worst case scenario." The components have to be dumping all of their wattage directly into the water, which never happens, and the ambient temps would probably make it uncomfortable to be playing games anyway which is just about the only thing that will simultaneously stress the CPU and GPUs to the max. Also, I'm not sure about your overclock. I don't know if temps that high would introduce instability. More than likely, even with the MCR220, you'll likely see lower temps than with a stock cooler, or even most third party air coolers.

Another thing to be concerned about is flow rate. You should check out martin's flow estimator, and read the info on that page about the importance of water flow. I punched up your proposed system as well as I could figure and it beats the 1 GPM benchmark (just barely) so it should be alright.

I hope that all helps.

Sources:
http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/Power
http://martin.skinneelabs.com/SwiftechMCR220-Review.html
http://martin.skinneelabs.com/D-Tek_Fuzion_V2-Review.html
http://martin.skinneelabs.com/MartinsFlowRateEstimator.html
 
Arcygenical said:
What CPU and GPU's?

Each chip has a different power requirement and thus heat output... Cooling a Q6600 and 2 4870x2's requires a vastly different setup than an E8400 and 2 4850s ;)
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Sorry, A Q9550 and Xfire'd 4870's

Thanks

MrE said:
I can help answer any questions with regards to my current setup.

There are two loop orders:

The CPU loop contains a D-Tek v1 Fuzion block with pro mount kit, Feser Xchanger 240 radiator, MCP355 pump with XSPC reservoir +top combo, Tygon 3603 1/2" ID/3/4" OD tubing, BP compression fittings (4), BP 90 degree rotary 1/2" (1) with Feser One Blue cooling fluid, San Ace 120mm x 38mm Fan (1), and one Yate Loon Low Speed 120mm fan

The GPU loop contains two EK HD4870 Acetel full cover blocks, an MCR220 radiator, MCP355 pump with XSPC reservoir + top combo, Tygon 3603 tubing, BP compression fittings (3), BP rotary fittings (3), Feser One Red cooling fluid, and two San Ace 120mm x38mm fans

Both pumps have UN System stands custom painted Red, and the reservoir fill lines use Danger Den fill ports. Hope that covers everything.
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Wonderful! Thanks, I love your set up! Is there a difference between the V1 and V2 CPU blocks?

StellaTerra said:
I love the MCR220 radiator, but I'm not sure if it'll be enough for you (plus obviously you'd have to buy the GPU blocks.)

Assuming your compy is the one in your sig (q9550 OCed + hd 4850 xfire) you'll be sucking down about 325W into those components. I don't know what your relationship to noise is like, but if you run two scythe UKs at 2 KRPM you'll have a temp delta of about 8.5C. Your processor has a max temp of 71.4C, and I think those cards can go well above 100C, so if your system is running full bore it will shut down when the ambient temperature (how hot it is outside in the room) hits 37C, or 98.6F. If you want to run the fans slower, medium speed yates at 1.5 KRPM would only restrict you another 1-2C, so up to 35C ambient. Of course, all of the above is "worst case scenario." The components have to be dumping all of their wattage directly into the water, which never happens, and the ambient temps would probably make it uncomfortable to be playing games anyway which is just about the only thing that will simultaneously stress the CPU and GPUs to the max. Also, I'm not sure about your overclock. I don't know if temps that high would introduce instability. More than likely, even with the MCR220, you'll likely see lower temps than with a stock cooler, or even most third party air coolers.

Another thing to be concerned about is flow rate. You should check out martin's flow estimator, and read the info on that page about the importance of water flow. I punched up your proposed system as well as I could figure and it beats the 1 GPM benchmark (just barely) so it should be alright.

I hope that all helps.

Sources:
http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/Power
http://martin.skinneelabs.com/SwiftechMCR220-Review.html
http://martin.skinneelabs.com/D-Tek_Fuzion_V2-Review.html
http://martin.skinneelabs.com/MartinsFlowRateEstimator.html
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Wow, thank you very much. Will be reading then I'll get back! Thanks


edit - What radiator is recommended to run my setup? Where is the best place to get the best deals on water cooling parts in the USA?

Appreciated!
 
Siriusmuzik said:
Wonderful! Thanks, I love your set up! Is there a difference between the V1 and V2 CPU blocks?
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Thanks!

The v2 is more restrictive, but doesn't require a separate quad nozzle kit as it has a separate injector plate. Plus the v2 comes with the pro mount kit. I don't think you can go wrong with either block.

BTW, some of the favorite shops to buy from:

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php
http://www.frozencpu.com/
http://www.petrastechshop.com/
 
Siriusmuzik said:
Sorry, A Q9550 and Xfire'd 4870's
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Aah, well... In that case...

Your Quad core CPU is probably running around 150w of heat, and each of your GPU's is quite similar. That means your radiator has to deal with 450w of heat at absolute full-bore load.

Now, each "single" radiator (a triple radiator = 3 "single" radiators) can dump around 125w of heat with a single 1200rpm yate loon fan. This means that, if you want to cool all 3 of your parts, you'll need about 3.6 "single" radiators...

Of course, we round this up to 4 radiators, (which can be any combination of 4 single radiators - two double ones, a triple and a single, etc.) with 4 1200rpm yate loon fans.

Stella Terra's description is mathematically sound, however, I would never under-cool a water loop... Dust buildup can make temperatures skyrocket in a matter of weeks as your radiator gets more and more plugged - And the math doesn't always work properly (my 400w of heat GPU folding setup has a water temperature delta of over 14c with a triple radiator and 3 1200rpm fans, even though - mathematically - this should be closer to 9c).

So, plan accordingly... A triple radiator (Danger Den Black Ice Pro 320) and a single radiator (Black Ice Pro 120) will cost you about 70$ total, shipped... The extra 20$ or so for the single is well worth it, if you can fit it in the loop.

I would attempt to purchase the following:
MCP655 pump
Dtek Fuzion V2
2x 4870 blocks of your choice (I would only suggest a full cover block)
Your equivilent of a 4.120mm radiator w 4 1200rpm yate loon fans
Masterkleer tubing
 
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