pendragon1
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coulda swore some around here were just asking about these...
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HEDT prices had reached ludicrous levels and with little practical benefit over desktop parts with increasing PCIe lane counts and more and more cores, HEDT as we knew it ceased to exist. I'm a little surprised to see it return but I fear its not going anywhere if the pricing structure is like it was last time.And I thought my x99 HEDT 5820K setup in 2016 was expensive!![]()
theres already one there, but we have forum sections for a reason.This is big! It should probably go in the news section though-
https://hardforum.com/forums/hardforum-tech-news.116/
Pretty sure the pro line (WRX90) is a different socket, you cannot go from one (TRX50) to the other.Interesting strategy - I thought the move to pro only made sense but I guess enough folks decided they'd had enough after getting shafted on the single generation 3000 series that they changed tack - but if it's a single gen again, not sure they get a lot of takers, though there will be a nice upgrade path to a 96 core pro cpu later.
I don't remember any boards being that cheap at launch. Specifically, most of the motherboard makers only had one or two models that were mid-range to high end. They didn't create cheaper boards until the X399 refresh. The reason this was the case is that companies weren't sure that there would be much of a demand for Threadripper and didn't want to invest in it until they were sure. So, they only designed one or two boards for it. Upon the refresh they released full product lines which covered more price points as they knew they'd get a return on their investments.Pretty sure the pro line (WRX90) is a different socket, you cannot go from one (TRX50) to the other.
And if it is not pro-only, it is pro or semi-pro only it would be fair to say, with a $1500 entry point for the lowest model, will see for the board options (but considering the cheapest CPU that goes on them we could expect an high entry point there as well), AMD call it like that semi-pro/HEDT.
The first threadripper launch had motherboard starting at $250 and $550/$750/$999 CPUs, $1500-5000 feel like a different class
Could be that was Anandtech speculating expectation in the article I was reading to get the msrp of the cpu when they were announced (https://www.anandtech.com/show/11697/the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-and-1920x-review), not actual price on launch:There may have been boards that cheap on launch, but I can't think of any off hand. I remember something around $299.99 or so, but high priced boards were a really common complaint at the time.
Yeah that's about right. I knew there weren't any cheap motherboards for Threadripper at the time and I actually talked to one of the motherboard manufactures about it and they basically said what I stated above. They weren't ready to go all in on Threadripper as it was an unknown quantity at the time. Also, ASRock having the cheapest board at the time also doesn't surprise me.Could be that was Anandtech speculating expectation in the article I was reading to get the msrp of the cpu when they were announced (https://www.anandtech.com/show/11697/the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-and-1920x-review), not actual price on launch:
$340 being the cheapest tested here on launch:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/11685/amd-threadripper-x399-motherboards/11
the STI will have even moreThat a lot of active cooling, 5 fans on the WRX...
https://www.techpowerup.com/315117/...roductivity-for-creators-and-machine-learning
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This look quite nice to me, i.e. the design-astheatic-look choice seem to indicate the possibility of reasonable (for a board with 10Gbe network price) for the TRX50
That a lot of active cooling, 5 fans on the WRX...
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Same socket and pro cpus will work on both chip sets, but lose the pro features on trx50. However, that means up to 96 cores on trx50.... Unsure if that means you can oc the pro cpus on trx50 (which let's face it the only reason you'd run the pro on trx50 is for the 96 core 7995WX).Pretty sure the pro line (WRX90) is a different socket, you cannot go from one (TRX50) to the other.
And if it is not pro-only, it is pro or semi-pro only it would be fair to say, with a $1500 entry point for the lowest model, will see for the board options (but considering the cheapest CPU that goes on them we could expect an high entry point there as well), AMD call it like that semi-pro/HEDT.
The first threadripper launch had motherboard starting at $250 and $550/$750/$999 CPUs, $1500-5000 feel like a different class
interesting but the oc agreement looks like the same agreement in my bios and in ryzen master.
I think there was some question on whether you could oc the pro (wx) cpus on trx50. You can't on wrx90.No one ever suggested/implied you could not, in fact saying you lose the warranty (and not just saying you do if you overclock but them tracking it and saving it on the cpu) if you overclock make no-sense if you could not, no ?
It looks like it won't void the warranty according to this:
I have seen different opinions. Some say it depends on whether AMD will enforce it or not. I mean if AMD wants, they can deny replacements for anyone who burned the fuse.Not that many of us would run into this issue this time around considering the steep entry price, but this could have consequences, for all OC users, on long term if this is implemented in cheaper products/ all.
ASUS WRX90 motherboard manual hints at 3D V-Cache for Threadripper CPUs
https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-wrx90-motherboard-manual-hints-at-3d-v-cache-for-threadripper-cpus
https://www.guru3d.com/story/amd-wr...ng-threadripper-9000wx-x-cpus-with-3d-vcache/
The ASUS Pro WS WRX90E-SAGE SE motherboard, designed for high-end desktop (HEDT) systems, includes a configuration option dedicated to managing 3D V-Cache. Currently, this setting is non-functional with the existing Threadripper 7000WX and 7000X processors, indicating that it may be intended for future CPU models. The absence of official documentation from ASUS regarding this feature implies that 3D V-Cache integration could be planned for the forthcoming Threadripper 9000WX/X series
HEDT is such a niche at this point I wouldn't expect much on that front.Hmmmm. Do you guys believe we will see 9000 series non-pro threadrippers or HEDT will die again? Any AMD engineers here ^_^ ?
I would love to see new threadrippers with new cool features.
If Dan himself is saying it, this sure makes me sad. Let's wait and see.HEDT is such a niche at this point I wouldn't expect much on that front.