New System - Unable to OC?

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I've run Orthos for roughly 6 hours periodically checking the temps in Speed Fan and CoreTemp; which seem fine for core temps. Averaging 42c - 46c under load. This is at stock voltage, fsb/ram at 1:1 (266/533), and fsb at 334 (3.0ghz).

Before I venture any further into this post... I'll type up my hardware/specs/etc.

Lian Li PC-A05B Case
Hiper 580w PSU
Intel D975XBX2 (BadAxe 2)
Intel E6600 w/ AS5 + Tuniq Tower @ full speed
2gb Ballistix DDR2 800 (4-4-4-12 @ 2.2v)
1 eVGA 640mb 8800GTS
2 Seagate Barracuda 80gb 7200.10 hdd's in Raid0
Vista 32bit Home Premium

Now here's the problem. As soon as I try to go above 3.0ghz, random Vista apps/services start erroring at stock voltages. I know what you're thinking... increase the vcore one or two notches and retest. However... the load temps when doing that, at 3.2ghz, start getting way too hot in my opinion. They're averaging 50c.

I've tried reseating the Trendy Tower, and get the same results. I guess part of the problem is my impatience for letting the AS5 burn-in / break-in / whatever you want to call it. But considering that would only lower temps (allegedly) by about 3c, I haven't bothered to throw that into the equation.

Any helpful hints would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thats just how the cookie crumbles... You could try lowering the multiplier to 8 so it drops your clock speeds so you can raise the fsb more.
 
CPU Multiplier is locked... :(

Maybe I should try updating the bios. Hmmm.
 
Oh thats right.. I read that you can't lower it on intel boards :(. Maybe someone knows a way?
 
Maybe you just got a semi-bad chip? I have mine OCed to 3.2 with a .05 volt raise in vcore and my load temps never go above 45C, and thats with the stock tuniq tower thermal paste.
 
Well, that sucks.

Just tried using TAT and the load temps @ 3.0ghz went to 58c!! :(

Oh well... I was really enthusiastic about this system as it's my first Intel build in a while... but bleh.

Edit: Could part of the problem be Vista? :X
 
Bios updated successfully. Load temps still shitty. My ambient room temp might have something to do with it... as it's ~70F in here.

Anyone want to buy an e6600? :rolleyes:
 
If any of you guys with a Tuniq Tower could do me a HUGE favor... turn your fan up all the way and then put your hand on the side that exhausts the air? My fan is on 100% and I feel no air coming out of it.

Edit: Just touched the base of the Tuniq... and it was cold... almost like it's hardly touching the processor. I'm starting to think that my problem might be with the cooler and not the processor...
 
Well you're lucky your temps are that low. My e4300 is running at 3ghz at 1.3volts and it's idling at 45 degrees and I have a Zalman 9500 on it. Load temps get into the 70's.
 
try reseating the tuniq tower, maybe it's not making good contact with the cpu.
 
What batch is your CPU? On the chip and the box look for numbers that look like "L632XX"
 
Your good with temps till 65-70C at full load like OCCT or Orthos. Remember is not like A64's where 60C and your done, even 55 sometimes on the DC otpys. Crank that sucker up. Give her some volts;)
 
I have a Tuniq and an E6600 and I had no problem getting my chip to 3.6Ghz. Temps idle in the low 30s and load in the mid 50s w/ Orthos small FFT. vCore is at 1.4. Mid 50s for load is absolutely fine, in my opinion. I'd only start worrying if core temps exceeded 62-65c.

At stock speed and voltage, my cores would idle in the low 20s w/ the Tower. If you're not getting similar results, then you might want to check a) the airflow in the case, b) the contact between the heat-sink and processor spreader, c) the amount of AS-5 used, and d) the installation of the tower. If the contact between the sink and processor isn't exactly flush, you may try lapping the heat-sink. Also, keep in mind that only a tad of AS-5 should be used, and when it does cure, to expect a drop of only 1-3C. (it's not that much.) Lastly, installing the Tuniq Tower can be tricky. My screws are inserted so that the ridged part of the screw is fully inserted, with the bare part sticking out of the PCB and through the heat sink holder. I've had absolutely zero problems with this setup.

If all is taken care of and you still aren't happy with your temps, then you may have a bad tower or a bad processor.

Good luck,

Mark.
 
I can't get my E6600 work at 3.4Ghz. It works at 3.2 (9x356, 1.4) and it's stable. It does't work at 3.3 either. Orthos fails after minutes or sistem freezes.
 
Markyip1 said:
I have a Tuniq and an E6600 and I had no problem getting my chip to 3.6Ghz. Temps idle in the low 30s and load in the mid 50s w/ Orthos small FFT. vCore is at 1.4. Mid 50s for load is absolutely fine, in my opinion. I'd only start worrying if core temps exceeded 62-65c.

At stock speed and voltage, my cores would idle in the low 20s w/ the Tower. If you're not getting similar results, then you might want to check a) the airflow in the case, b) the contact between the heat-sink and processor spreader, c) the amount of AS-5 used, and d) the installation of the tower. If the contact between the sink and processor isn't exactly flush, you may try lapping the heat-sink. Also, keep in mind that only a tad of AS-5 should be used, and when it does cure, to expect a drop of only 1-3C. (it's not that much.) Lastly, installing the Tuniq Tower can be tricky. My screws are inserted so that the ridged part of the screw is fully inserted, with the bare part sticking out of the PCB and through the heat sink holder. I've had absolutely zero problems with this setup.

If all is taken care of and you still aren't happy with your temps, then you may have a bad tower or a bad processor.

Good luck,

Mark.
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damn, that tuniq is impressive. I just finished installing watercooling loop and took my e6600 to 3.6ghz @ 1.4vcore. I idle at 34c and load is at 52c according to core temp 0.95. Room temp is 72-74F. Which program are you using to check your temperatures?
 
TehQuick said:
damn, that tuniq is impressive. I just finished installing watercooling loop and oc'ed my e6600 to 3.6ghz @ 1.4vcore. I idle at 34c and load is at 52c according to core temp 0.95. Which program are you using to check your temperatures? Room temp is 72-74F
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Thats exactly why I dont really see the point in watercooling anymore, except for maybe less fan noise. Air coolers are getting so good now and are so much cheaper than a complete WCing system for maybe a small temp difference. And even with fan noise, if you have a fan controller the noise shouldnt really be a problem, turn them down for surfing, etc, turn them up for gaming. It just seems better for price/performance. This is all just my opinion though, so to each his own.
 
devil_trigger said:
Thats exactly why I dont really see the point in watercooling anymore, except for maybe less fan noise. Air coolers are getting so good now and are so much cheaper than a complete WCing system for maybe a small temp difference. And even with fan noise, if you have a fan controller the noise shouldnt really be a problem, turn them down for surfing, etc, turn them up for gaming. It just seems better for price/performance. This is all just my opinion though, so to each his own.
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Well, yeah, I guess it's true, and at some point I seriously considered getting Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme but it's still not on the market. After some more thinking I decided I don't want to hang a 2-pound thing on the mobo :) Besides, I did watercooling before, and with a bigger rad than my current single heatercore, I'm sure my temperatures will improve quite a bit :) And there's also a variation in CPU temperatures, different e6600s put out different amounts of heat. I have a B-series cpu which tends to run hotter than A-series..
 
TehQuick said:
damn, that tuniq is impressive. I just finished installing watercooling loop and took my e6600 to 3.6ghz @ 1.4vcore. I idle at 34c and load is at 52c according to core temp 0.95. Room temp is 72-74F. Which program are you using to check your temperatures?
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I use Speedfan and CoreTemp, which both are more-or-less on the same mark.

Mark.
 
So I decided to experiment with a Zalman 9700... @ 3.4ghz idle temps are 28c and load is 43c. I really think I had a bad tower... or the 9700 is overall better for my setup. Either way, it's definitely not a bad chip and runs like a champ now.
 
50*C or so isn't bad. Hell, notebook chips run ~50-75% hotter than that on average. I wouldn't worry about it.
 
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