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DigitalPanhandler

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OK posted this originally in the overclocking and cooling section, but feel it might be more relevant here....

I have a i7 4790s (ES) that Ive had for 2 or 3 years now, on a h81m-itx motherboard, so no overclocking.

I assume this is a i7 4790k that has the gpu cut out, and 65w....

It reads i7 4790s.... except like maybe 1 program reads it as a xeon e3-1225v3 (may have that listed wrong, don't remember what program that was that read that...)

on the h81 board, ran 3.6-3.998ghz..... never below that, and across all cores, under any given load...so kinda stoked about that...... as I understand most these are just one core up high and rest are lower....

anywho busted the audio connectors on my h81 board (damn cats) so replaced it yesterday with a Asus Gryphon Z97 Armor edition matx board.....

now..... overclocking.... not familiar with these newer (ok I know its not a new cpu) cpus...last cpu I overclocked was probably a XP 2500+ many years ago...

so first boot, loaded into bios.... unfamiliar with options..... selected asus optimal settings and XMP profile for memory... booted to windows... 4118mhz across all cores under full load, 810pts in cinebench r15..... maxed at 80c...idles around 40c. avg max is around 70c when gaming....

its currently cooled by a cryorig c7 low profile cooler (cause was previously in a low profile mini-itx case...) now I'm relatively certain this cooler isn't making proper contact.......due to the .....solid caps? around the cpu socket...I mean it was REALLLLLY freaking close to making contact to those on the h81........ but hard to tell with this asus cause all the armour stuff around it...... overall not too concerned, but I went ahead and ordered a simple corsair h50 water cooler last night, got it on sale..... should be here in a few days....

backed down the asus smart tune stuff to normal settings today, instead of their performance, so its back at what the h81 was reporting as far as speeds.....temps are idle around 30-35c and max around 67c.....

uh, whats difference between hwmonitor showing vcore 0.888v and VID 1.176v....
I thought vcore was the cpu core voltage but that's listed under the motherboard stuff.... where as VID is listed under cpu stuff....

additionally, assuming I was overclocking, how should I be overclocking this? what settings should I fiddle with in bios?

I mean I seriously remember only messing with fsb stuff back in the day, occasionally multiplier..... I assume I shouldn't be messing with bclk freq?


anywho, sorry for all the poorly written information.... heres a pic of the setup now... any info on this would be greatly appreciated...

otherwise I'm currently happy with how it performs......


edit: cooling currently - 2x 140mm thermaltake riing blue fans in front.... 1x 120mm riing blue fan in rear.... (intel, kept color theme going...) overall temps seem relatively good....according to hwmonitor....
Thermaltake versa H18 case

additional edit: I know the 4790s should NOT be able to overclock, as retail units don't, however it seems this ES does.... hence why I'm asking

additional edit #6999182: included some additional screenshots, couldn't get cinebench to repeat the 811 score you see listed.... 740-750..... but the 811 is also mine..... and the 666 score is the normal asus settings, instead of asus optimal (which reports the higher score)


additional edit # 5981891203710081247123: timespy benchmark @ 4.2ghz 1.2v, for whatever reason I cannot get the benchmark to run with evga precision x open, so cant run it with my gpu overclock.... msi afterburner same thing.... just refuses to run and post results.... bummer, also 827 cinebench @ 4.2
 

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After some digging, it appears my only options are to increase bclk.... asus smart tuning seems to push it to 103mhz up from 100..... giving me the boosted speed I see...... 105 I believe would put me at 4200 solid, 110 I believe is 4400..... however despite the 103mhz seeming to pass all test, when I woke my computer this morning it was hardlocked.... so I'm assuming I need to increase the voltage a bit.... maybe due to no load it boosted to high?

id like 4200 solid, 1ghz over stock.... but not sure I wanna push it till the cheap aio watercooler is here.... will dig up some info on safe voltages as well...thinking maybe 1.2v? ish...

ddr3 1600 boots 1680mhz 1.5v, thinking maybe slight bump in voltage there as well and get 1700-1800mhz solid....

maybe 1.55v?
 
That's a very hard to read and disjointed explanation of what's going on.

Your CPU is locked. Blck overclocking will only get you so far. To be honest I'd probably just run your CPU at max turbo on all cores (sync at 40x multiplier) and call it a day. Based on your sig, assuming it's correct, 1440p is going to be far more GPU dependant than CPU, even with your 144hz monitor.

I'd probably run it at max turbo/boost at 4ghz and try to lower the voltage much as possible to keep temps/noise down.

OC'ing RAM on that platform won't see you much of a gain.
 
yeah sorry, wasn't sure where to go with it and what to say, but yes I'm currently back at 100x40 synced on all cores, 4000mhz with voltage running default 1.176v, temps were a bit higher then id like for my cooler, and I'm mostly interested in seeing what this cpu can actually do since ive never been able to mess with it

unfortunately unlike steam forums, I cant just go through and delete my post now, as it seems I have the information I was looking for....
 
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