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New System Blues...

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icxnamjah

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Today I just built an

AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 Socket 939
Abit AV8 KT800 PRO MOBO
WD 74 gig SATA 10,000 RPM Raptor
2x512Corsair XMS Series PC 3200 Pro with heat spreader set at 2-2-2-5
Geforce GT 6800

On 3d Mark with 4x AF no aa default resolution at 1024 x 768 I recieved
11,333 score. I thought wow that is 4k more than my previous system

Then I search and compare and people who has less than me get a better score? how... does O'Cing help that much?

On PC mark trial version, I recieved a score 4985, and I have seen scores of 7k + on a P4 o'ced to 3.8ish non EE version I believe it was north or prescott forgot.

Did I build my pc wrong or is it because I need to learn how to OC my comp? Any special bios tricks? If I have to OC then I will need to buy more fans and a new heatsink/fan as well...=T

Also I usually never use factory made heatsink and fans and I put thermal compound on it, did not know they already had a thin layer on it...is this very bad? If it is, is there a way to clean it off?

Thank You
 
When you run a 3DMark bench, set everything to default. I think the default AF is 1x, not 4x. Just click the default settings button.

See if setting your RAM to 2-2-2-11 helps, I believe I've heard that the Athlon chips like that 11.

And yes, OCing can make big difference in performance if a high enough OC is reached. It usually really only manifests itself in benchmarks, as the difference in games is often only a few FPS, depending on the game.

I don't know anything about PC Mark, sorry.

To clean off the thermal compound get a paper towel and some rubbing alcohol and go to work. Yes, it is bad to have the stock thermal pad or whatever they use, and then some extra compound. It will inhibit heat transfer.
 
OMG I am freaking out right now

on bros comp...that i just gave him use to be mine...

why am I on this comp...

becuase I think my CPU that i just bought fried

when I try to take out the heat sink the cpu ripped out stuck to the heat sink with the cpu lever still in locked position

I look at the pins...seemed fine

so i cleaned it off

placed it back in closed lever...now i turn my system on
beeps like a fire station does when there is a reported fire!

omg...i think i just blew 828 dollars and I dont think amd will send me a new chip cuz I did sumthing they didnt want me to do...this is serious blues....this was my first build now I know my mistakes...
 
No offense, but the faint of heart and paranoid shouldn't be building their own comps. On a more serious note, you shouldn't be freaking out so much. ;)

Anyways.

1.) Are we talking 3dMark2001 or 2003? Well, first off, you shouldn't care about these benches in the first place. They've lost a lot of credibility lately since they're synthetic. However, Sysjack says, you shouldn't enable AA and just leave every setting to default. That's how everyone else tests to get the highest scores possible.

2.) PCMark is pretty worthless as an indicator of real performance as well, it's also synthetic. As for the 7000+ scores, I'd have to say that's crap. I've only seen like 5000 points as the tops for PC Mark, but Pentium 4s usually beat Athlon64s in this synthetic benchmark because of sheer clock speed.
Again, not a really valid benchmark because of syntheticity.

3.) Overclocking nets minor gains, you'd need a significant OC to really notice some improvement. Like Sysjack said, most of what you will notice is in benchmarking...

4.) Sysjack: I think that the 2-2-2-11 thing is only for nForce 2 mobos, and that only improved performance by like 1% anyways.

5.) The reason why your heatsink came ouf with the cpu is because of the thermal compound. It forms a bond between the two. You can break the seal by giving the heatsink a little twist, or heating up the CPU by running it, and then you can remove the heatsink.

6.) Any error messages from the system when you try running the CPU now?
 
BillLeeLee said:
4.) Sysjack: I think that the 2-2-2-11 thing is only for nForce 2 mobos, and that only improved performance by like 1% anyways.
Click to expand...

Just checked up on it, you're right on both counts there.
 
hehe sorry for freaking out. back on my comp

i used a microscope this time and there u have it a pin was a lil bent now my comp is back to normal....i hope this doesn't dmg my cpy in the future? and thanks for the comments i feel much better now...i spent the last few hrs trying to fix this...how glad i am that i didnt lose my money...do you think since the cpu works i can trade it in for a new one via warranty or no? thanks
 
I wouldn't trade it. If it works, it works, if it's broken, you'll know it right away.
 
Don't worry about the CPU. When I opened my CPU's storage box, the CPU came flying out (Intel packaging is annoying the first time you open one) and like 5 of my pins were bent. I straightened them out and the CPU's been working fine ever since.
 
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