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New Storage Array

im interested to see how this works for you. were going to be buying sata raid enclosures here where i work as an alternative to the scsi ones. 14x140gb 10krpm u320 drives are very pricey :( you can buy 3 or 4 200+gb sata drives for the price of 1 140gb
 
Does the 9500 series support a single array larger than 2Tb? I kept running into that issue with the 7500's.

Nice case
 
Share the wealth.. $760 just for the controller.. sheesh.

Anyhoo.. specs say that it will support a single array of over 3T.
 
How are you going to config your storage?

Single Large RAID5? Or RAID 10? etc?

Or multipe RAID arrays?

Looks like with a single large RAID5 you will have 2.75 TB of storage. That is a lot of PORN.

P.S. if going with a single RAID5 setup I would strongly suggest having atleast 1 standby drive. That many drives having a multi drive failure within a short period is not un-heardof. Also with that much storage you really do not want to loose it to HD failure.

Also what is your backup system? Cause that is a lot of data to go down the crapper ;)
 
I plan on haveing 3 hotspairs

The enclosure supports 15 sata hardrives.



And as for backup

Well that would be handled by it's brother

You see i am building two of these :)
 
Captboom said:
You see i am building two of these :)
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YOU SUCK! :)

Um are you doing this for home use? Or is this for work?

Also while I can not think of a better way to backup ~3TB of data than your solution without spending a crapload of money, are you concerned at all by location catrophe? Cause if the house burns down your screwed.

The best/cheapest way to handle offsite backups with 3TB is to have an extra set of drives to swap out on the "backup box" and take them offsite in a nice padded case.
 
having 3 hotspares may not be such a great idea... the controller only has 12 ports, so if 2 disks die in succession, you have to rearrange the cables to have 12 drives plugged in before the second goes. The disks will also be spinning all the time, so it's more likely they'll fail...

Also, you will want to back up often, even with the second one. If you delete a file, it's gone from both forever. The other reason to back up is that hardware raid cards are dumb as bricks. my dad had a 8-drive ide raid array, and one disk died. Raid5, so no problem, right? so he pops in a new disk, and it promptly copies the contents of the new disk onto the old array. thankfully it was stuff he didn't need... so basically, back up early & often.

what's this getting used for?
 
unhappy, i think he's going to use some of the drives in the 12 disc array as the hotspares.
The other 3 SCA cages are probably going to be coonected to the mobo.
 
dang, you have more storage in one of thoes than we do in our AS/400's
 
m1abram said:
YOU SUCK! :)

Um are you doing this for home use? Or is this for work?

Also while I can not think of a better way to backup ~3TB of data than your solution without spending a crapload of money, are you concerned at all by location catrophe? Cause if the house burns down your screwed.

The best/cheapest way to handle offsite backups with 3TB is to have an extra set of drives to swap out on the "backup box" and take them offsite in a nice padded case.
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Home use

My roomates and i are in the process of cleaning up the server room and building this stuff.

We are going to be posting some really sick photos soon.

And we picked a name "Project Borg"
 
ambit said:
unhappy, i think he's going to use some of the drives in the 12 disc array as the hotspares.
The other 3 SCA cages are probably going to be coonected to the mobo.
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Bingo hit the nail on the head


Plus i have 3 hardrives already mounted in drive trays and can swap them out at a moments notice. No waiting on rma's to load a new drive in.

Replacing hardrives as they fail withen minutes of failure is always the best way to do things.
 
Paragon said:
Share the wealth.. $760 just for the controller.. sheesh.

Anyhoo.. specs say that it will support a single array of over 3T.
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760 huh damm i paid 827$
 
As for what we are doing with it.

We have a massive collection of Anime. Startrek, Farscape, Stargate SG1.

We currently have them spread out on cd and dvd and we wanted them live.

Not to mention our software collection is massive.

Currently live storage in the house totals 1.5 terabytes between all the full hardrives cd etc etc.

So right off the bat where eating up half the array.

We are already talking about adding 2 more in 6 months.

Would bring total capacity up to 12 terabytes
 
Captboom said:
As for what we are doing with it.

We have a massive collection of Anime. Startrek, Farscape, Stargate SG1.

We currently have them spread out on cd and dvd and we wanted them live.

Not to mention our software collection is massive.

Currently live storage in the house totals 1.5 terabytes between all the full hardrives cd etc etc.

So right off the bat where eating up half the array.

We are already talking about adding 2 more in 6 months.

Would bring total capacity up to 12 terabytes
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You're my hero, and I'm not being sarcastic.
 
Well since most of your data is of the "static" form, backups are simplied a bit. With good organization doing the backups to DVD type media should be a non-issue.

I currently have a small ~100GB of music in FLAC format and have a very nice storage method that allows me to create a sinle backup set once, and just create another single backup of new stuff I add WITHOUT have to backup what has already been done. This makes backing up to something like DVDs of 14-20 DVDs not an issue since you only do it once. The music does not change once I get it, same with movies and such.
 
What kind of power supplies? You picked the best card IMO...

Whats the build cost? I was thinking about doing the same thing (only 2GB in the beginning though). I'd recomend you have 1 hot spare, so it would be 2.5TB (10 data + 1 parity) in RAID 5.
 
Powersupplies are built into the chassies

Tripple Redundent 760 watt power supplys

As for build cost do the math

3ware card 867$
Motherboard 226
P4 3 ghz 200$
1 gig ecc ram 300$
12 250 gig hd's at 172$ each
Chassies 922$
 
Heres some pictures of parts.

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More parts will arrive later this week and next
 
wow, what a great way to spend $4579. i wish i could build one of these right now. it is amazing!


your pictures take forever to load over cable internet, you may want to resize them, but anyways, awesome setup, i cant wait to see completed pics
 
You where right i lowered there resolution and compressed them.

Afraid i don't have alot of experience posting pics on the net


:)
 
Captboom said:
I wouldn't use hitachi if you gave the drives to me
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well, to each his own. ive never used a WD drive and ive had terrible luck with maxtor.
 
I have had just the oposite.

Hitachi bought there drive division from IBM.

Just about everyone knows about the High failure rate of ibm drives and especialy how ibm tried to weasle out of it saying the drives where being used to hard and werent meant for extended use as it shortened there lifespan.

These hitachi hd's are based on the very same technology.

Until they prove themselves over a few years as being reliable i am not jumping on that band wagon


Tom
 
Your electric company is going to love you and your neighbours are gonna hate you. I bet that fucker is LOUD
 
3ware =P the way to go!

i personally have 2 3ware cards on 2 machines.
one of them a 7810 with 7 200gb (filled with anime only on a 100mbit line =)
the other a 7500-8 with 3 250gb (desktop)

hope you dont choke your raid card like i did.
 
Could make a nice direct connect hub, assuming you have enough bandwidth.
 
Ordered the 2 cases today there on backorder for 2 or 3 days


the hardrives are going to be here by end of week.


Oh btw recieved some private emails asking what king of pc i use

I have 6 pc's i use to play "Everquest" 1 is my main pc

Main pc is

3.4 ghz p4
2 gig ram crucial pc 3200
2 120 gig sata seagate 7200 rpm drives
1 hp dvd r burner
1 sony cdrw
1 asus 6800 ultra 256
19" sony LCD
Audigy 2 zs


Second pc
3.4 ghz p4
2 gig crucial pc 3200
1 80 gig uata133
1 toshiba 56x cdrom
1 radeon 9800xt 256
17" sony lcd
Audigy 2 zs

3rd 4th 5th pc's
Athlon 2800+
1 gig crucial pc 3200
Nvidia 5200 5700 radeon 9600xt
toshiba 56x cdrom
80 gig maxtor 7200 rpm uata 133 each system

6th pc
just won't die mind you
P3 1gig
1 gig ram
nvidia geforce ti 4200 128 meg
40 gig uata 133 hd
56 x cdrom


Oh and just so the mac guys aren't left out

I have a dual 2 gig with 2 gig of ram powermac g5
2 250 gig hd's


Our whole house is wired with 100 base t and we have 16 availble gigabit connections that the servers live on as well as main desktop pc's

Our main switch is a cisco 2900 series 24 port
Our internet switch is a 10 megabit cisco 1900 24 port
Our gigabyte swtich is netgear x2


I will let the roomates provide there own system specs as the above is just me
 
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