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pb_junkie

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Alright I have 1000 to spend on a new computer, I dont need a mouse keyobard or any like that.
This is the list that I have so far:
Thermaltake Tsunami - Tower
ABIT GD8 Pro Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 915P ATX Intel Motherboard
ATI 100-714600 Radeon X1300 256MB PCI Express x16 All-In-Wonder 2006
Thermaltake TR2 W0070 ATX 430W
Intel Pentium 4 541 Prescott 800MHz FSB LGA 775
Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300)
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200KS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA
Pioneer 16X DVD±R DVD Burner
Thermaltake Big Typhoon CL-P0114 120mm Cooling Fan with Heatsink

i feel like im missing something.

EDIT:
This is for my dad. He complains his 1.88 ghz isnt fast enough for him. Mostly spyware problems that I cant seem to overcome no matter how many reformats I do. Mainly because his computer is on SP1 because his work software isnt compatible with SP2. No matter how many tools I install after a reformat and how many times I update his computer he seems to get spyware out the ass. I told him to stop looking at the pr0n but he fails to listen I guess. Nah, he just doesnt understand how vulnerable the web is.

CN: how should I build to make the fastest and most outstanding computer for a grand? BTW- software has to be included in the price. (ie windows nort./pcillen...), monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers not included.

What my dad likes to do:
Movies
Large bandwidth usage (iguess porn)
Email
Minor flash games+videos.
 
what are your needs, what will it be used for, the x1300 is a bit of a weak card, but if you don't game with the highest settings then it will probably be fine.
 
-(Xyphox)- said:
why not go conroe? instead of that pent 4
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If he's trying to save money the presler would be good, like the 920/940, i think those are at good price now. The prescott doesn't have alot to offer.
 
Should I upgrade my mobo if im going to go presler 940 instead of the prescott?

What vid card would you reccommend? I would prefer PCI express, but go ahead I can take your suggestions.
 
give us a little direction as to what you want to be able to do with this computer when you get it built. That way we can give better recomendations on what components to upgrade.
 
You have a $1000 budget? go conroe! You already have the perfect ram for a conroe setup, so all you'll need is an E6600 Core2Duo and an Intel D975XBX motherboard. As far as the graphics card, you can keep that unless you play alot of games or do alot of 3d rendering. If you'd like to get better gaming performance, go for the 7600GT. If you'd like to game with higher settings at higher resolutions, go for a 7900GT or X1900XT. Everything else you have is fine. If you do upgrade your vidcard, you won't need to upgrade your PSU. You can use the leftover cash for a monitor upgrade =P if you have enough, or just save it for something later.

Things to buy:
$340 Intel E6600 Core2Duo
$260 Intel D975XBX Motherboard

If those are too pricey for your needs or you don't want to wait for the E6600 to be in stock, go with: (This is also good if you like to OC... don't forget to get a nice HSF if you do)
$230 Intel E6300 Core2Duo
$170 ABIT AW8D Socket T or intel board above

As for vidcards, should you need one:
$340 Radeon X1900XT 512MB
$270 nVIDIA 7900GT 256MB (without rebate... 240 w/ MIR)
$166 nVIDIA 7600GT 256MB (without rebate... 146 w/ MIR)

Things you already have and should keep:
Thermaltake Tsunami - Tower
ATI 100-714600 Radeon X1300 256MB PCI Express x16 All-In-Wonder 2006
Thermaltake TR2 W0070 ATX 430W
Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300)
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200KS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA
Pioneer 16X DVD±R DVD Burner

I haven't checked out the 3rd party HSF's yet, but I'm guessing this will still fit:
Thermaltake Big Typhoon CL-P0114 120mm Cooling Fan with Heatsink

Things to SELL:
ABIT GD8 Pro Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 915P ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Pentium 4 541 Prescott 800MHz FSB LGA 775
 
the computer is for my dad, he isnt using it for gaming but he wants it to be quick, and everything like that. so what should I be looking at?
 
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ AM2 - $151
Corsair Value Select 2x1GB DDR2-667 - $160
Samsung SP2504C 250GB SATA-II - $70
Pioneer DVR-111D - $32
Shipping for above 4 items - ~$7-12 UPS 3 day

ASUS M2NPV-VM - $84 + $5 shipping

Antec NSK4400 /w 380W PSU - $67 + ~$15 shipping, not in stock
Alternative vendor - $68 + ~$15 shipping, in stock

With this rig, you can drop in a discrete video card if he wants to try some games. Since he won't be needing anything fast (and therefore power-hungry), the PSU will be sufficient. You don't need a HSF... unless your dad wants something really quiet.
 
pb_junkie said:
the computer is for my dad, he isnt using it for gaming but he wants it to be quick, and everything like that. so what should I be looking at?
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For it to be "quick" in windows, office, etc., chances are what you actually need is a reformat and reinstall of windows. If you want to spend, add more memory and a faster hard drive.

I assure you that even on very dated hardware Word is not cpu limited. And it certainly doesn't require PCI-Express.

But then again, Photoshop and a statistics program like Survo would benefit from a faster computer. So could HDTV watching and timelapsing if that's something your dad wants to do.

So again, what are the actual needs and what is he using now?

Despite common perception computers don't become out of date any more than washing machines. They might require some maintenance, but until they break they will always do what they were bought to do. A six-year old computer meant for office work is still fine for office work.
 
i missworded my original text, what i meant to say this is what i have on the list to buy.
 
I suppose you just want more opinions? If you're looking for something else, by all means, give us more info.
 
Requirements:

At least:
Intel clock speed of 3.0+
2 gigs at least of ram (whatevers best for mobo)
at least 256mb vid card
at least 250gbhd
i can workout optical drives
case? i have an antec so i guess i am for antec.
 
pb_junkie said:
Requirements:

At least:
Intel clock speed of 3.0+
2 gigs at least of ram (whatevers best for mobo)
at least 256mb vid card
at least 250gbhd
i can workout optical drives
case? i have an antec so i guess i am for antec.
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The requirements you have just listed clash with what you posted earlier. If this for your dad's simple office work, you don't need 2 gigs of ram and you don't need a video card at all.
 
This is basically for him to goof off with, the guy complains that his 2.0 and 1 gig ram comp with 64mb card is too slow.. and thats with his techs coming over all the time to clean it up and optimize it for him... i want to give him something that will make him feel it is actually fast. Note: I only have 512 mbs of ram, and my 3.0 prescott. seems pretty quick to me at least. So i figure anything better than mine will do fine.
 
It's not a hardware problem then, a computer like his with a gig of ram should be more than fast. If his computer is slow, then there's probably ad/spyware and all sorts of nasty stuff.

BTW, for office work, a video card is NOT needed. Getting a better one won't make anything run faster at all. For gaming purposes only.
 
pb_junkie said:
This is basically for him to goof off with
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Define goofing off...

Coming in with requirements like a certain amount of megahertz and megabytes distributed around the computer is the wrong way to go about things. The need is dictated by usage, not by arbitrary numbers. I have a gigabyte of ram, and I think I've seen it all in use one or two times.

If his idea of goofing off is making a full length motion picture with 3d animation then he needs a fancy video card and all the memory you can throw in the thing. But for normal goofing off like playing snood and reading ircquotes he doesn't need anything faster than what I have.
 
His goofing off:

email
flash videos
movies
probally porn+spyware ftw of course


btw, it seems no matter how many times the tech guys and I reformat his computer and put all the antivirus and anti spyware + spyware removal tools on, he continues to get spyware.. any suggestions, my dad basically hardly understands how vulnerable he is while he is on the internet...

you guys go any ideas to help protect without blocking him from flash games and everything?

tools i already have installed on his past computers:
Norton Antivirus + Utilities
Spybot S&D
Adaware

EDIT: firefox included ftw
 
what the f are u doing with a x300, even for very lite gaming it can barely pull 1fps outa its lil @ss (sorry for language but that card sucksss, i cant even begin to describe how bad, any decent dx9 game will just be way to much for it, and forget oblivion, fear, bf2, or the like.... so go with a 7600gt min, spcially with 1 grand
 
wow... u obviously didnt read enough of the post... that is a list... i said it was for my DAD who isnt gona be GAMING
 
Well, he IS a coolxboxgamer.

Force your dad to use Firefox or Opera (the latter being my preference).
 
then just use onboard.... and i am cool, i "owned" and xbox, and im a gamer, so dont f*** me about my name dude
 
lol guys can we stay on topic here, no need to flame... but yeah. I do force my dad to use fire fox, he calls it motzerella... lol its hilarious... but yeah.. me nad the techs have tried everything...

UPDATE: 2grand budget to build the sickest computer.

Who wants to help me go balls out on this one. Im thinking the 960 presler to start.
 
what would you reccommend? im not gona overclock this computer for him, I want to have a fast computer that I can just put together like mine and leave it as it is.
 
K I want to get the E6600 but, its soldout on newegg.. anywhere else I can get this processor?
 
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