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New pets video.

[H]eckel

[H]eckel

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I posted this over in the Aquariums forum already, but it's just as appropriate in here. This is the first video I've encoded from my Sony DCR-TRV22 minidv cam. I've just been playing around with video capturing for a few weeks, so I wanted to go ahead and do something with it.

This is just a video of some fish my girlfriend bought the other day.

Enjoy.

http://www.sharbutt.com/videos/fish2.wmv
 
WHat program did u use to turn it into what format you used?
 
not much to say about the video... but as for the aquarium... very bad setup. Those fish will all be dead in no time. Cept the beta.. she'll live for a little longer.
 
Firewire and Windows Movie Maker 2 I'm guessing. If you recorded to the memory stick it'd be an MPEG2 file.

But it was a little shakey. Was SteadyShot on, or were you just heavliy zoomed?
 
Originally posted by JHefile
WHat program did u use to turn it into what format you used?
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I used Windows Movie Maker and converted the full dv video into one of the presets "video for broadband(512 Kbps)". Windows Movie Maker makes wmv files.
 
Originally posted by cmosdos
not much to say about the video... but as for the aquarium... very bad setup. Those fish will all be dead in no time. Cept the beta.. she'll live for a little longer.
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Why do you say that? I'm a novice obviously. My first attempt at fish. Already lost two catfish. Everything else seems to be doing just fine.

The water is getting a little cloudy though.
 
Originally posted by mbcook
Firewire and Windows Movie Maker 2 I'm guessing. If you recorded to the memory stick it'd be an MPEG2 file.

But it was a little shakey. Was SteadyShot on, or were you just heavliy zoomed?
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Firewire and whatever movie maker comes with xp pro. The memory stick videos leave alot to be desired. This was from tape.

Steady shot was on, but i did zoom quite a bit. I don't have the steadiest hands either.
 
What were you trying to show with this post the quality of the video? It doesn't look that great to me, is that the typical quality from minidv?
 
Originally posted by agentzero9
What were you trying to show with this post the quality of the video? It doesn't look that great to me, is that the typical quality from minidv?
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No, not at all. I was just playing around with encoding some video and thought I would post some up. The video quality has been reduced greatly in that video to save bandwidth.

I could probably post a very small clip in full quality avi if anyone was interested.
 
Originally posted by [H]eckel
No, not at all. I was just playing around with encoding some video and thought I would post some up. The video quality has been reduced greatly in that video to save bandwidth.

I could probably post a very small clip in full quality avi if anyone was interested.
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I am. I am looking into a mini dv camera, and quality is a big issue or me.
 
Originally posted by [H]eckel
Why do you say that? I'm a novice obviously. My first attempt at fish. Already lost two catfish. Everything else seems to be doing just fine.

The water is getting a little cloudy though.
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Well, lets see... where to start.

First off, I bet you didn't cycle the water... which is why its cloudy. That's amonia building up = dead fish. Second, I doubt you know what cycling a tank means. To cycle a tank, you must have everything setup and running for about 4-6 weeks to build up algae grown and kill the amonia. You are in the stage right now where amonia is building up. Next algae will start to form, which will begin to slowly reduce the amonia. However, during this time, ur fish will die. Its a good idea to have a couple hardy fish in there during the cycling process. Nothing you care to loose though. Just for the process of poop and amoia and such. There are things out there called Amonia Blockers. This doesn't get rid of the amonia, just makes it easier for the fish. However, if you use this, you will never cycle the tank properly, so everytime you have to fill water back up, you will be creating a LOT more stress for the fish. On a side note... never change the water 100%. Do about a 20% change every week. During the cycling process, I wouldn't do more than 20% every two weeks.

Now, put all this aside and lets take your fish choice into consideration. Even if the tank was properly cycled, there are some fish in that tank that will die. Why? Cause you have that beta in there. Beta fish do not get along with anything. That's why their sold in little cups all by themselves. One time I put a beta into a tank with 10 goldfish just to see what would happen. Next day, fish guts were all over the place. By day 2, not a goldfish was to be found. Beta fish attack by swimming into other fish violently. In the video you can already see the beta start to attack that poor little fish. Notice I said little... well, there's another problem you have. You have a tiny fish, and then you have the big ones. Oh, and that algae eater you have... that tank won't hold him if he lives more than 6 months. He can grown up to a foot long and more and drawf everything in the tank. You have too wide a variety.. frogs, shrimp, community fish, and violent fish. Very bad choice of fish. Although you may like to have all that variety, its not good for the fish or tank.

Please don't take this like I'm trying to flame you. I'm just pointing out a few mistakes most beginners make. Hopefully you'll take it constructively and have a good fish experience.

A lot of the people in the aquarium forum know their stuff. I haven't been there in a year, but if their still there, they should be able to help you a lot. Their always helpful to beginners. You may also want to check out some books/websites on tanks for beginners.
 
This is Photography Digi & Film forum. Where you get off with big long post about his fish I don't know.
 
Good lord, he was just telling him what he knew about aquariums. If it is relevant to the TOPIC then I believe its okay, as long as the topic in turn has relativity to the forum its in. If you want me to get into the specifics I can but just leave the guy alone, he's teaching...
 
JHefile, reason why I posted what I did is because he ASKED what he was doing wrong. I know what forum this is... I've been around here longer than you. At the end of my post, I directed him towards the aquarium forum and other books and websites. This was to prevent continues discussion of tanks and fish in this thread.
 
Sorry man. It's just he gets busted on for video quality and a filthy fish tank. In my eyes I give him applause for getting his first video up and on the net.
 
Well, I do have one thing to comment about the video.. I didn't notice how big the file was until watching it a second time. That long of a video for 15meg isn't bad at all. Quality isn't the greatest... kinds like subvhs, but still... 15is very web friendly.
 
Damn guys, I just want to see what the highest quality video looks like.........
 
Originally posted by Alias
I am. I am looking into a mini dv camera, and quality is a big issue or me.
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The quality is excellent. It exceeded my expectations. I will try and upload a short full quality clip sometime tonight or tommorrow and post a link. The video takes up quit a bit of space, so the clip will most likely be very short because my bandwidth is being used a little faster than I thought just with this video and some pics that I posted.
 
Originally posted by cmosdos
Well, lets see... where to start.

First off, I bet you didn't cycle the water... which is why its cloudy. That's amonia building up = dead fish. Second, I doubt you know what cycling a tank means. To cycle a tank, you must have everything setup and running for about 4-6 weeks to build up algae grown and kill the amonia. You are in the stage right now where amonia is building up. Next algae will start to form, which will begin to slowly reduce the amonia. However, during this time, ur fish will die. Its a good idea to have a couple hardy fish in there during the cycling process. Nothing you care to loose though. Just for the process of poop and amoia and such. There are things out there called Amonia Blockers. This doesn't get rid of the amonia, just makes it easier for the fish. However, if you use this, you will never cycle the tank properly, so everytime you have to fill water back up, you will be creating a LOT more stress for the fish. On a side note... never change the water 100%. Do about a 20% change every week. During the cycling process, I wouldn't do more than 20% every two weeks.

Now, put all this aside and lets take your fish choice into consideration. Even if the tank was properly cycled, there are some fish in that tank that will die. Why? Cause you have that beta in there. Beta fish do not get along with anything. That's why their sold in little cups all by themselves. One time I put a beta into a tank with 10 goldfish just to see what would happen. Next day, fish guts were all over the place. By day 2, not a goldfish was to be found. Beta fish attack by swimming into other fish violently. In the video you can already see the beta start to attack that poor little fish. Notice I said little... well, there's another problem you have. You have a tiny fish, and then you have the big ones. Oh, and that algae eater you have... that tank won't hold him if he lives more than 6 months. He can grown up to a foot long and more and drawf everything in the tank. You have too wide a variety.. frogs, shrimp, community fish, and violent fish. Very bad choice of fish. Although you may like to have all that variety, its not good for the fish or tank.

Please don't take this like I'm trying to flame you. I'm just pointing out a few mistakes most beginners make. Hopefully you'll take it constructively and have a good fish experience.

A lot of the people in the aquarium forum know their stuff. I haven't been there in a year, but if their still there, they should be able to help you a lot. Their always helpful to beginners. You may also want to check out some books/websites on tanks for beginners.
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Thanks alot for the advice. I had no idea the algae eater would get that big. Like I said, I don't know alot. We just picked up some fish that looked fun and asked the lady that sold them too us at walmart a few questions. I think she was just acting like she knew what she was talking about. Anyway, I will definitely take your advice into consideration. I would hate for all of them to die.
 
Originally posted by cmosdos
Well, I do have one thing to comment about the video.. I didn't notice how big the file was until watching it a second time. That long of a video for 15meg isn't bad at all. Quality isn't the greatest... kinds like subvhs, but still... 15is very web friendly.
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Yeah, that is why I did it the way I did. Windows Movie Maker makes it very easy. Working on learning Premier now. :)
 
Walmart?!?! Oh god, never buy fish from there. Did you look in the tanks man... there's always dead fish in there. Theres a good chance one of your fish has ICK or some other disease. Head down to an actual petstore (not Petsmart or other big place. Something local where people who work there work there cause they like animals and know stuff about them). They should be able to really help you. I'm gonna refrain from anymore "advice" to keep the other people here happy ;) But head over to the aquarium forum... you can get more help there. Good luck and can't wait to see the higher quality vid.
 
Originally posted by cmosdos
Walmart?!?! Oh god, never buy fish from there. Did you look in the tanks man... there's always dead fish in there. Theres a good chance one of your fish has ICK or some other disease. Head down to an actual petstore (not Petsmart or other big place. Something local where people who work there work there cause they like animals and know stuff about them). They should be able to really help you. I'm gonna refrain from anymore "advice" to keep the other people here happy ;) But head over to the aquarium forum... you can get more help there. Good luck and can't wait to see the higher quality vid.
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Ok, thanks for all the advice. I'll try to get a higher quality vid posted here in a few minutes.
 
Ok, here is a clip from the full, uncompressed video file. The file size is roughly the same, at a fraction of the length. I can actually encode it at full size in WMV or MPEG 2 and make the file size much smaller with very little loss of quality. This clip, however, has no compression whatsoever, just to show what it looks like unaltered. The several clips that I have captured through firewire with my sony dv cam look quite a bit better than clips captured through my roommates analog capture card and sony hi8 cam. Also, when played on a normal, interlaced, NTSC television screen as opposed to a progressive scan, high resolution computer monitor, the video looks damn near DVD quality and has none of the interlacing or aliasing artifacts.

http://www.sharbutt.com/videos/hiresfishclip.avi


BTW, you might want to right click and save target as on this one. It's not real stream friendly.
 
Quality is much better... especially in that low light condition. I'm messing around with my current Sony Hi8 camera. Trying to figure out how to use Premier.
 
Originally posted by [H]eckel
Ok, here is a clip from the full, uncompressed video file. The file size is roughly the same, at a fraction of the length. I can actually encode it at full size in WMV or MPEG 2 and make the file size much smaller with very little loss of quality. This clip, however, has no compression whatsoever, just to show what it looks like unaltered. The several clips that I have captured through firewire with my sony dv cam look quite a bit better than clips captured through my roommates analog capture card and sony hi8 cam. Also, when played on a normal, interlaced, NTSC television screen as opposed to a progressive scan, high resolution computer monitor, the video looks damn near DVD quality and has none of the interlacing or aliasing artifacts.

http://www.sharbutt.com/videos/hiresfishclip.avi


BTW, you might want to right click and save target as on this one. It's not real stream friendly.
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How do you get the video to the pc? Firewire? OR do you have to play it thru a video input. Looks good. I want one :p
 
Originally posted by agentzero9
That poor fish. :(
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The fish is fine. He is faster than the Beta. I think the Beta gave up though, because i haven't seen them playing catch in a few days.
 
Originally posted by Alias
How do you get the video to the pc? Firewire? OR do you have to play it thru a video input. Looks good. I want one :p
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I had to buy a firewire card and an ilink cable, but as soon as I had that, it was a snap. You can do all the camera controls from the pc and it makes capturing a breeze.
 
To cycle a tank, you must have everything setup and running for about 4-6 weeks to build up algae grown and kill the amonia.
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LOL, this is the funniest shit I've ever heard.

Algea?

AYFKM?

BACTERIA! They're call nitro-bacter. They are bacteria that convert the amonia into nitrite, and then another specie of bacteria will change that nitrite into nitrate.

Algea only begin to form once you have a great deal of nitrate.

I have had Betas in other thanks, they do well.

Ammo-Block is more toxic then the ammonia that it is trying to get rid of. ...and if you use Ammo-Block on a pre-cycled tank, it will take much longer to cycle.

Don't listen to this guy.

Change out a gallon of water every day, with fresh, clean, chlorine free water. Do this for a week. Don't feed but only once every 3 days. If you want to know MORE, from someone with several tanks, PM me.

-PD

P.S. -- I apologize for the thread-jack, but, you know what? It was necessary.
 
I was just trying to give him a jist of it PurdueDood. Second off... you dont put betas into tanks like he did. Period. Third, i said to NOT use ammo-block. I know what it does to tanks. I'm not an expert... and I doubt you are... but regardless... take this stuff over to the aquarium forum. He already has a thread up over there. Lets leave this thread as a discussion of the video quality and size, etc.
 
Cool the jets cheif..

I'm not an expert...
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That has been made more than obvious..

and I doubt you are...
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If you only knew..

I'm going to put this to an end.

Don't be offended when your your thoughts are critiqued. I had to correct someone who was obviously wrong, live with it. Yes, there are people on this board that are older, wiser, and more mature that yourself. Deal with it.

I've had my ass handed to me before, and I'm the wiser for it.

-PD
 
Cool the jets cheif? Lol.. how was my statement directed in such a manner where i would need to cool my jets?

If it makes you feel better to think your better than me... go for it. Have fun!!
 
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