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New Nvidia GeForce6600 - SM 3.0 SLI for $199!
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I doesn't take a genuis to figure out that 2 6800LEs in SLI will probabley beat a X800Pro. Especially if they're softmod friendly. You don't need a crystal ball...you need uncommon sense.
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^eMpTy^ said:
Thanks for the opinion, but i'll still be here waiting on the facts about ATI's mid-range generation and what their 3dmark scores are, since I can't seem to find anything conclusive
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just curious, i didn't see that 3dmark03 score in the link that you posted. Where did you get that? 
er...found it. I will wait till i see something a little more credible tho. That being said, a couple things don't make sense. First, the 6800 NU is only slightly better than the 9800XT and the 9800XT benches ~6500-7000, yet the 6800 is $300.
So Nvidia is releasing a card @$200 that will kick the crap outta their own $300 card?
Don't make much sense...
If it's true tho, ATI better get a serious midranger out there (that is, not the 9800XT for $380,) none of this 4000-5000 4 pipeline X600 crap.
er...found it. I will wait till i see something a little more credible tho. That being said, a couple things don't make sense. First, the 6800 NU is only slightly better than the 9800XT and the 9800XT benches ~6500-7000, yet the 6800 is $300.
So Nvidia is releasing a card @$200 that will kick the crap outta their own $300 card?
Don't make much sense...
If it's true tho, ATI better get a serious midranger out there (that is, not the 9800XT for $380,) none of this 4000-5000 4 pipeline X600 crap.
UltimateMan said:So Nvidia is releasing a card @$200 that will kick the crap outta their own $300 card?
Don't make much sense...
If it's true tho, ATI better get a serious midranger out there (that is, not the 9800XT for $380,) none of this 4000-5000 4 pipeline X600 crap.
I don't think it'll kick the crap out of the 6800, given that the 6800 has 4 more pipes. The cards probably won't be really that different in performance though, since the nv43 will have a higher core clock. It's hard to say, I guess we'll know in 3 more days. It'll probably come down to the 6600 GT being just a tad slower than the 6800.
There was a lineup comparison posted here sometime today, don't remember where. The bottom line was, ATI is losing out to Nvidia across the whole board, top to bottom, except for the (vaporware) X800 XT PE (and it's pretty neck and neck), and they also beat out the FX 5200 segment (big surprise there). As soon as Nvidia releases their ultra low end FX 5200 replacement (in Q3), I believe ATI will definately have a challenge on their hands, even with all their OEMs. People will start to realize that they aren't getting the best card for the price in their pre-built systems, and vendors will start offering alternatives.
I think you guys are jumping the gun on this vaporware. Here are my opinions.
1. 128 bit memory = bad, even in SLI
2. 199.00 each x 2 + unreleased motherboard (300.00)? = 700.00 < 6800 Ultra for 500.00
3. 128 bit memory
4. 128 megs of 128 bit memory
5. 128 bit memory
1. 128 bit memory = bad, even in SLI
2. 199.00 each x 2 + unreleased motherboard (300.00)? = 700.00 < 6800 Ultra for 500.00
3. 128 bit memory
4. 128 megs of 128 bit memory
5. 128 bit memory
Dillusion said:
Nobody is really claiming that. The claim is that the 6600GT will be competitive with the 6800 (plain). Both cards have 128MB memory. What might happen is that Nvidia will yank the higher-cost (to produce) 6800 ($299) and replace it with the 6600 GT, which does retail for $199.
So we'll have this:
nv4? $99
nv43 $199
nv40(plain) $299
nv40(GT) $399
nv40(Ultra) $499
nv40(Ultra Extreme) $549
All 'top to bottom' as Jen Hsun says, of course he stated that there would be 5 different gpu's in Q3, so maybe there will be even more cards interspersed in those prices. Looks like there will be something for everyone though.
amheck said:
Yes they are native PCI-e. There is, however, the HSI bridge, in case you need to plug it into an AGP motherboard until you upgrade. The bride works both ways, to convert from AGP (x16 speeds) to PCI-e.
Oh and I don't know about the 6800 LE
R1ckCa1n said:
this is laughable..
$300 for a motherboard? try $150 for even the newest most badass desktop board...
the point isn't that it's better than an Ultra...the point is it beats the ATi competition at the same price point...and you can later upgrade it to SLI if you want to...that's 2 good reasons to buy nv over ati...and that is the point here...
Dillusion said:
It's a little card that you plug the graphics card into, and then plug into the mobo. It will fit in an AGP8x slot, but will run at double clockrate, so AGP 16x speeds.
Just to clarify, the same bridge works both ways. PCIe <---> AGP. Pretty cool.
^eMpTy^ said:
If you truely believe that I got a bridge (not a PCI-E bridge) I wanna sell you that can do SLI, SM3.0, and VS3.0
edit: to insert fact instead of the normal FUD spewed by the quoted.
150.00 for a newest most badass board? Hmmm... THIS board is the newest none PCI-E / dual PCI-E board and is floating in at a pricy $219.00 w/o tax or shipping. How much will a dual PCI-E board cost? Less than a 8 x AGP most badass board?
Since I'm making guesses today, I'll say the budget card will be an NV43 with defective pipelines disabled and slower memory. After the NV31 I fear how badly the card will be gimped.eXzite said:
What are the 6 cores Jen-Hsun Huang talked about? The known ones are: NV40, NV41M, NV43, NV45, NV48 and ...?
R1ckCa1n said:
cheap has a negative connotation...it's not the cheap way...it's the sensible way...it gives them a lot more room to adjust to PCI-E market demand...a native solution has already been developed...they just don't want to be making 2 different cores for 2 different chipsets while the transition from pci to pci-e is taking place...
^eMpTy^ said:
Did I once say anything about ATI? Why you always on the defensive?
My point is you guys are jerking off to something yet to be released and don't even know how a 128 meg / 128 bit memory card will work with new games. Much less, when an actual motherboard will be released to support this configuration.
Lets wait and see how this shapes up when it is available via the retail channels instead of selling vaporware today.