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New Linux gaming box

DogsofJune

DogsofJune

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So my Cachy OS box seems to have died on me. The power supply seems fine, it's less than a year old, but the system does nothing when you hit the on button. No blips, wheezes, fans turning, fires, smoke. Just nothing. I swapped the mobo and all to a different case, still nada.
I will probably dissect the box and see if the 13400f processor, ram, nvme, and 7800xt are still ok. In the mean time, my Manjaro box will be my go to Linux gamer for a bit.


So, I am thinking heavily about jumping to the LGA 1851 platform. I was going to skip the generation, but I am intrigued with the 270k. Sounds like it should be an upgrade to the previous 13400f. My struggle will be finding RAM, but I may be able to reuse the 5600 sticks until a deal can be had for something more suitable. Looks like I should be aiming for low cas 7200, yes?

I have been looking at Z890 itx mobo's. I don't really want an Asrock, (I have had various products and they have been hit or miss) Gigabyte might be a contender. I see there is an MSI out there for a reasonable price. I haven't had an MSI board since the slot A days. I think I am going to avoid Asus this round.

Curious to see if there are any Z890 MSI user's that want to chime in, or if there is another option that does pretty well.
This will be my new Cachy OS gaming box. I may swap a 4080 for the 9070xt in my 7800x3d system and use it for this new setup as well.

So to recap my rambling, I have a case, power supply, temporary RAM, a GPU, NVME, just looking for an itx mobo suggestion and RAM speed.

Thoughts?
 
I went ahead and purchased the 270k. Looking for some sane deal on RAM..... Looking at something in the 7200 or better flavor.

Still looking for itx suggestions. Anyone? Bueller?
 
Well the MSI Z890 leaves me feeling a little underwhelmed on the vrm cooling. Twin thunderbolt and four fan headers is nice. I don't really need the four M.2 slots. (sigh)

I find myself coming back the the Asus ROG Strix Z890-i, but that price......

I should scrap it and do another AMD build. yeesh. The 270k will be in my hands Wed.
 
I'm gonna look at Biostar..... Nobody looks at these forums anymore huh?
 
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DogsofJune said:
I'm gonna look at Biostar..... Nobody looks at these forums anymore huh?
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Biostar? Serious ?

270k is nice CPU, but with 5600MT/s RAM, don't expect miracles. For pure gaming 9800x3D is best, if you need more cores and wanna play with Intel setup - yeah 270k is best for new CPU + 7200 RAM. Just go for normal board and not Biostar,
 
DogsofJune said:
Well the MSI Z890 leaves me feeling a little underwhelmed on the vrm cooling. Twin thunderbolt and four fan headers is nice. I don't really need the four M.2 slots. (sigh)

I find myself coming back the the Asus ROG Strix Z890-i, but that price......

I should scrap it and do another AMD build. yeesh. The 270k will be in my hands Wed.
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DogsofJune said:
I'm gonna look at Biostar..... Nobody looks at these forums anymore huh?
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Asus and MSI are the only motherboards I buy, though a lot of [H] members like Gigabyte. FWIW, I'd stick with AMD for a gaming build.
 
Lol, I figured Biostar would get some comments. I haven't seen a Biostar board for sale in a day and an age. Never owned one, nor would I actually consider one

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Biostar? Serious ?

270k is nice CPU, but with 5600MT/s RAM, don't expect miracles. For pure gaming 9800x3D is best, if you need more cores and wanna play with Intel setup - yeah 270k is best for new CPU + 7200 RAM. Just go for normal board and not Biostar,
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I have a 9800x3d, 7800x3d, 13600k, 14700k, 8700g, the 13400f bellied up, a smattering of laptops, and a minisforum UM 773 for downloading "Linux" distro's. Plus some other frivolous junk.
Most systems are listed in my signature.

And yes of course 5600 RAM would suck for a minute until prices for 32-64 gig of RAM are easier to swallow. This box is purely to be for Linux gaming. I doubt I do much else with it, at least yet.
As I said, I have temporary RAM, a GPU, NVME, power supply all ready to go until the CPU shows up and I make up my mind on which it mobo I want.

We all spend money on hardware for Windows game boxes, and just cobble together left overs for Linux stuff. I thought it time to change that for myself.

I will have to re-assess my case situation. The Sapphire 9070xt Nitro+ will not fit in my NZXT 210, CM NR200, it'll be a shoe horn to get into a Dan A4, but then a decent air cooler for the CPU is out. It may fit in a Hyte Revolt I guess, but the decent air cooler is out on that too. Instead of itx, I may look at matx boards.

Ugh, hobbies are expensive.
 
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Could get one of those fancy new vertical cases. I think kyle made a thread about one he put together for his kid. I wouldn't recommend a fractal mood, but I like it despite it's flaws.
 
I think I recall him posting about it. I may look at those options. I looked at the Mood. The Sapphire 9070xt won't fit and only a max height of 114 mm for CPU cooler. I don't want to do a AOI with this build. Unless I have too.
 
His was in a NCORE 100. You can get the Air version starting at $78 from amazon resale, the Max (comes with clc iirc) commands quite a premium, however.
 
That's right. I remember now. Damn, that is a healthy price on the Max, but I may go that route.

Depends on the mobo I choose tho. I need to research fitment issues with the AOI
 
DogsofJune said:
Lol, I figured Biostar would get some comments. I haven't seen a Biostar board for sale in a day and an age. Never owned one, nor would I actually consider one


I have a 9800x3d, 7800x3d, 13600k, 14700k, 8700g, the 13400f bellied up, a smattering of laptops, and a minisforum UM 773 for downloading "Linux" distro's. Plus some other frivolous junk.
Most systems are listed in my signature.

And yes of course 5600 RAM would suck for a minute until prices for 32-64 gig of RAM are easier to swallow. This box is purely to be for Linux gaming. I doubt I do much else with it, at least yet.
As I said, I have temporary RAM, a GPU, NVME, power supply all ready to go until the CPU shows up and I make up my mind on which it mobo I want.

We all spend money on hardware for Windows game boxes, and just cobble together left overs for Linux stuff. I thought it time to change that for myself.

I will have to re-assess my case situation. The Sapphire 9070xt Nitro+ will not fit in my NZXT 210, CM NR200, it'll be a shoe horn to get into a Dan A4, but then a decent air cooler for the CPU is out. It may fit in a Hyte Revolt I guess, but the decent air cooler is out on that too. Instead of itx, I may look at matx boards.

Ugh, hobbies are expensive.
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Nice rigs :)

The GIGABYTE Z890M Gaming X mATX model seems like a good choice as a compact option. There aren't many options in this form factor, but this model will likely fit in your case.

Yeah, this hobby is becoming more and more expensive :(
 
So after looking at the NCORE 100 Max, it may not have enough to keep the cpu from throttling. So I have been thinking, I'm probably going to ditch Win 11 on my 7800x3d box, run Cachy on that, and put a 4080 with the 270k running win 11.
The 4080 is an Asus Pro Art variant. It's not a huge beast of a card as the 9070xt. Then I can run the CM NR200, Thermalright PA, 4080, 8TB WD Black SN850x, I have an sfx 1000w power supply for all that.

Saving some money for RAM! It's not going to win any fps competitions, but should be a solid box still

I think I decided on the MSI MPG Z890i Edge Ti. Ten 110A power stages, eight 10 Gbps ports and two Thunderbolt ports, 5 Gbit LAN. I only have a 2.5 network at home, but that could change one day.
Apparently the VRM cooling is loud, but seems to suit. Fans can be changed out.

Now I have to find that RAM.


That should get me a new Linux gamer, and kill the itch for the new build. The current 13600k, RTX 4070 with Manjaro will probably get handed off to a buddy after I put Windows back on it. He ain't figured out that there Linux stuff yet.
 
This RAM pricing is BS. Almost $600 for 32 gig of low cas 7200. (sigh)

But it's on its way.

Next up, settle for certain on a mobo.
 
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Processor should be here today, RAM on Monday. Still haven't ordered a mobo. I still haven't dissected the 13400f system yet. I don't think the Asus B760-i is that old, but who knows. I bought it from a fellow Hocp'r. It'd be nice if the cpu is still fine. I have another B760-i board that has never been used. It's Gigabyte flavor and uses DDR4.
I can throw it in the mobo and see if it's in working order and probably sell it to recoup a little cost.



I hate waiting for deliveries.
 
Box one onsite.

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RAM wasn't supposed to be delivered till Monday. It's coming today.

I ordered the MSI board and it's due from a slow boat from China on like the 7th of May.


Ugh.

I guess I will order some of these for the build.
https://a.co/d/0icFCFTU
 
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Nothing worse than waiting on the one last component to get things moving. Fans are installed, power supply thrown in and then wait.

Ordered the mobo on the 23rd and it has just now been received by USPS in Seattle. Expected delivery date 7th to the 18th to the KC area........

I hate USPS, and the longer they have it, the higher the statistics go to never seeing it.
 
I guess maybe in June I can complete this build. Contemplating finding the mobo somewhere else and shipping the original order back when it finally decides to show.
 
Sweet bebe Jesus..... Made the mistake of purchasing the mobo through Newegg. Ended up being from a seller tinggangmaoyi on Newegg. First I got a USPS tracking number which says that it is due today. The seller tinggangmaoyi says it was delivered by Amazon on the 3rd. I was home on Sunday and checked the camera footage. Nothing.

Seems odd to submit a USPS tracking and then claim it was delivered already by Amazon.
Order date 4-23-26
USPS in possession of the package on 5-4-26
Expected delivery 5-8 to 5-18-26.

Newegg still shows the order not delivered, but this seller tinggangmaoyi says Amazon delivered it already.

Is Amazon fulfilling Newegg orders these days? I didn't get it from Amazon because it was $10 cheaper on the Egg. So why would a seller put it out for $10 cheaper and then have it sent from Amazon and send a tracking number for another delivery service? (sigh). I would like a drink please.

WTF mang, and I still don't have this box built. It's my fault for not paying attention to who the seller was, I usually filter sold and shipped by Newegg. That's what I get for not paying attention. Now I have to try and get my money back. Yay.
Also as of this morning, tinggangmaoyi store no longer exists on the Newegg site.

Live and learn and off to get funds back and shop elsewhere, not that I expect to get the money back.
 
Ugh, mobo should have stayed in transit. Can't seem to get windows installed without a network
 
learners permit said:
Try the most up to date Rufus for your ISO it allows you to can all the online crap and do a local acct.
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Yeah, that's what I ended up doing, I was being lazy with running Media Creation Tool and forgetting that the mobo has non standard network stuffs.
DL a clean Win 11 iso and Rufus'ed it's ass to a USB. Now I seem to be struggling with a riser cable for the gpu. It runs, but not like I would expect a 270k with a 4080. Still whipping the drivers into shape. Somewhere in this room I have a gen 5 PCIe riser, but I'm betting it's too short. The CM Nr200 case didn't work out. Now the setup is on an Italian Hydra case.

Curser for the mouse warps around the screen on occasion


To be cont......
 
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Asus and MSI are the only motherboards I buy, though a lot of [H] members like Gigabyte. FWIW, I'd stick with AMD for a gaming build.
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I've been happy with asrock and they either do or used to have a couple of very nice itx boards. asus and msi are ok and usually my 2nd choice behind asrock.

In itx format i use this cooler with i7s:

Noctua NH-U9S
 
My experience with Asrock has been hit or miss. I had an x570 board I really liked, and a Taichi for a threadripper as well. There was a 6700xt that did great and a few other items that left me hanging. The 7800xt I have gets hot to easy, I typically buy Asus or Gigabyte.
This setup is an MSI mobo I bought. With a 5g Intel lan and BE1750x Wi-Fi 7. Neither Windows seems to have available for startup. The MSI board comes with a thumb drive loaded with drivers, but the driver for the Lan has a big disclaimer with it.

I have given up for the day. Tired of the reboots. Newest drivers installed, I think. I have a PCIe 5 riser cable but it is too short.

It's stuttery, reboots on a whim, and doesn't seem stable yet. I'll get more brown liquor and battle it later.
 
Ugh, I'm disappointed. I have PCIe risers and the oldest gen (that came with the Hydra case) is the only one that allows something to show on the monitor, although it's unstable. I tried a PCIe 4 and no picture, a brand new PCIe 5 no picture.

Back to the drawing board for a case. GPU has to be in the slot. I'm running out of brown liquor folks.....
 
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Ugh, I'm disappointed. I have PCIe risers and the oldest gen (that came with the Hydra case) is the only one that allows something to show on the monitor, although it's unstable. I tried a PCIe 4 and no picture, a brand new PCIe 5 no picture.

Back to the drawing board for a case. GPU has to be in the slot. I'm running out of brown liquor folks.....
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The case i have works fine with a 9070 without a riser but of course i don't know the length of your gpu nor have i been following the closely. Conversely you could hunt for a different riser; antec has one for pcie-4 and lian li has one for a pcie-5.
 
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The case i have works fine with a 9070 without a riser but of course i don't know the length of your gpu nor have i been following the closely. Conversely you could hunt for a different riser; antec has one for pcie-4 and lian li has one for a pcie-5.
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No more risers. PCIe 5 is finicky enough. If I had an older nr200 where the gpu sat flat, the pro art 4080 wouldn't be an issue. The first NR200 I had fit a huge 6800xt, but I gave that case away to my brother in law.
I'm looking for a small MATX case I think, or a test bench, but this box will be going to work with me so I may rather get something enclosed.

Without a gpu though, the system works wonderfully. I'm pleased with the 270k+ so far.

Meanwhile, the 7800x3d works beautifully with Cachy
 
What an oddity i have the old nr200 as my itx case. Nice case - mine is in white.
 
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What an oddity i have the old nr200 as my itx case. Nice case - mine is in white.
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The ones I have had, and have, are white. Different generations though. There is a V2, V3, Max, non P, etc...

My first case was this design.


Cooler_Master_NR200 flat.jpg


The second case I have is this way. It is really cheaply made. The fans mounted in the top of the case don't line up with the holes. The AOI I have doesn't fit well either. The front doesn't sit flush.

nr200p-v2-1200x630 vert.jpg


And the newest variation out there is this, which I am not interested in.

81TjOk+iWdL._AC_SL1500 v3.jpg


I am not going to track down the insert that repositions the GPU flat. The second case I bought was supposed to be like the first. I never looked at it when I bought it. It's just not made as well as the original I had. I'll take pics of the issues I have with the second NR200 when I get home from work. I really liked the first one I had.


Current prospects, are a Jonsbro, Asus, and a Lian Li. I'm thinking the 205 mesh will be alright. The AP201 by Asus I am not sold on, and the D31 Mesh isn't from a brand I am familiar with.
 
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Let see - i have MCB-NR200P-WGNN-S00 no clue which version that was. Mr. Google claims it was the original.
 
I have an Asus AP201 inbound. Small open MATX case. Should fit everything without a riser. The fun development, and I think I had this subconsciously planned, is this box won't see Linux, or game. It is about to become a test horse. For GIS asset implementation at work with some light CAD duty as well.

No permission from the out of state IT group but my boss engineer gave me the go ahead. It will have internet, but no access to the network. Going to start off with QGIS and check out some plug ins...... Yay. If all goes well, maybe we can petition the lords of the checkbook for an ESRI software subscription....


It's one of those, I had an itch to build a box, and now there is a serious use for it.

Maybe I can do this for money someday? /s
 
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I am incredibly frustrated. The Asus Ap201 is here, loaded in the guts and same issue. The GPU isn't working. Swapped the 4080 out for a 4060ti and still nothing.
The Corsair SF1000 is ATX 3.1 and PCIe 5.1 ready. So it plugs directly into the gpu. I thought maybe there was an issue with the connector. Or perhaps the 4080 died since last it was used. It's not very old and didn't see a lot of use before being tucked away in a anti static bag.

I figured I would chuck in the 4060ti. Again, like the 4080 nothing on boot. Plug the hdmi back into the mobo and bam. Works fine with the igp. Device manager neither listed the 4080 or the 4060ti once it boots with the igp.

I'm pretty sure I have it seated in the slot correctly. The gpu fans turn on. No picture. I better not quit my day job I guess.......


Time to update the BIOS and change the PCIe settings to gen 4.

Hope that helps. Adult beverage store opens at 9am.....
 
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Be sure and check the BIOS revision folks. Makes a difference. Recognizes the 4060ti. Now we swap out for the 4080 and run benchies......


Today's ramblin' BS is brought to you by Goose Island Beer Co. Beer Hug variety pack and two Old Fashions with breakfast.
 
Mazzspeed said:
Isn't this a Linux boxen?
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Originally, but then I decided to run Widows on this and put Cachy OS on the 7800x3d box. Which is been a great swap.
This Intel box is slated for work duty. None of my coworkers do Linux. Which is a shame, but trying to keep it simple for the masses.


So a linux box did happen......
 
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