New Intel rig problems, need some help

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KarateBob

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I built a new rig with an Intel Pentium D 805, an ECS RC410L/800-M 2.0 with onboard video, and GSkill DDR2 Ram, when I turned the system on, it didn't POST, but it beeped twice, so I exchanged the motherboard for a new one. When I installed the new one, the same thing happened, so I went to CompUSA and got different ram. When I installed that ram, the same thing happened, so I decided to order a new motherboard, and got the EPoX 5P945-J, and a Geforce 6200TC video card.

When I turned on the system, the fans spin up, but nothing is displayed on the monitor. The LED PostPort display thing shows 7F, which, from the manual, means:
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      1. Switch back to text mode if full screen logo is supported.
       -if errors occur, report errors & wait for keys
       -if no errors occur or F1 key is pressed to continue:
        * Clear EPA or customization logo.

So I figured the CPU was the problem, and I went and got a different Pentium D 805 CPU. When I put that in, the same thing happened.

Update: Things I've tried:
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   Motherboards: 
   2x ECS RC410L/800-M 2.0
   1x EPoX 5P945-J
 
   CPUs:
   2x Pentium D 805
   1x Celeron D 326
 
   RAM:
   2x GSkill Extreme 512MB PC4200 DDR2 Ram
   2x Centon 256MB PC4200 DDR2 Ram
 
   Power Supplies:
   1x Vantec Stealth 470w
   1x OCZ Powerstream 520w
 
   Video Cards:
   1x Onboard ATI Express 200
   1x MSI GeForce 6200TC
   1x ATI X800XL
 
   Other:
   Two different cases
   Two different PS/2 Keyboards
   Two different Stock Intel CPU Fans
   Two different monitors
   No Optical/Hard drive
   No Mouse/Keyboard
   No +12v Power Connector
Does anyone have any whacky ideas as to what could be wrong?
Thanks in advance
 
1.) take the battery out of your board and re-insert. clear the bios. try again.
2.) check your power supply. you might have a god-awful 240w wanker of a ps and trying to run on no juice.
3.) remove all unncessary components (HDD, DVD, Floppy, 1x Memory DIMM) and try to get a boot screen. if it works, try re-adding NECESSARY components one at a time (HDD, DVD, Floppy...etc. etc.)



if all else fails, hate to say it but "dude, get a dell."

dave
 
doubt its the mobo battery since hes tried 3 different ones

I agree its most likely the psu tho
 
The PSU is a 24-pin Vantec Stealth 470w. It powered my A64 rig before I upgraded it to it's 520w PowerStream. I've tried using only 1 dimm in each of the ram slots, with no result.

I just got a Celeron D 326 to see if it's a CPU compatibility issue, and it doesn't work either. Same error message as before :-/.
 
I tried with an old Antec 20-pin PSU, and with my OCZ Powerstream 520w PSU, and the same 7F error code comes up :confused:

Any other ideas?
 
I think you have a black thumb.

Like people with a "green thumb" are good at growing plants, etc..

You have a black thumb.... you break or burn up everything you touch. Maybe you have a bad static problem (see below) and you keep breaking everything you touch.

Does your hair look like this?
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KarateBob,
This may sound crazy but two things that I've seen cause similar problems with other P4 boards are:

No fan plugged into the CPU Fan header

ATX12V connector not connected

Good Luck!
 
You don't exactly have the hottest motherboard around. Try a different board, or different board brand, like say, Asus. It could be possible that you have either the wrong board revision or a non-updated BIOS. which would cause the board not to be able to recognize the processor.
 
Ive tried two different brands, the ECS, and the EPoX, and nothing works in either of them. I also tried a Celeron D 326, just in case the motherboards didn't support the Pentium D 805, and that didn't help either.

I'm sure I've plugged in the ATX12V connector, and the CPU fan. I even tried plugging in a different CPU fan, and that didn't change anything.
 
yes, accoriding to this Support Intel Pentium D—û with Dual core processor.

and even if it wasn't, it still should have worked with the Celeron.
 
CpuMan said:
Have you tried another known to be good video card?
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The first motherboard had onboard video, so I figured I could rule out the video card as being the problem, but if you think it will help, I could try popping my X800XL in it, when I get a chance....
 
Okay, I tried it with my X800XL, with a different monitor, and the same thing happened. *sigh*
 
KarateBob said:
Okay, I tried it with my X800XL, with a different monitor, and the same thing happened. *sigh*
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Go back to the basics again with the mb out of the case. With 1 stick of tested memory, your cpu, your tested video card, and a tested psu plugged into the motherboard, and try to access the bios. If you still cannot access the bios then you have a motherboard problem and or cpu problem.

If you can access the bios with the basics. Then add 1 component at a time. Example next add a cd rom drive then the hard drive, then the rest of you memory till you find the faulty component.
 
Okay, I moved the computer into a different case, and that didn't help, now I'm out of ideas. Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
KarateBob said:
Okay, I moved the computer into a different case, and that didn't help, now I'm out of ideas. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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So what is it doing exactly now? Is it still beeping? When you say the fans spin up, does that mean they continue to spin or do they stop spinning thereafter? Do you use studs to separate your mobo from your case - checking, just to make sure.
 
The EPoX motherboard doesn't beep. When I hit the power button, the monitor stays blank, the fans spin up and stay on, and the Post Port displays several normal post codes (initializing PS/2 devices, initializing IDE devices, etc) then stops on the 7F Post code. Nothing is displayed on the screen. If I hit the Delete key after the system is on, the code changes to 1E, which means "Reserved"

edit: Yes, I'm using the stock brass standoffs that came with each case.
 
KarateBob said:
The EPoX motherboard doesn't beep. When I hit the power button, the monitor stays blank, the fans spin up and stay on, and the Post Port displays several normal post codes (initializing PS/2 devices, initializing IDE devices, etc) then stops on the 7F Post code. Nothing is displayed on the screen. If I hit the Delete key after the system is on, the code changes to 1E, which means "Reserved"

edit: Yes, I'm using the stock brass standoffs that came with each case.
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Got it, just checking to see if the case headers were connected properly. You seem to know what you are doing.

I believe now that you made sure everything was secure and in place. I have never had problems with booting except for one bad Gigabyte board so I had figured I wouldn't be much help to you if you knew what you were doing.

A few thoughts:

-probably not your PS, graphics card, monitor, keyboard(PS/2), etc. if all those were tested on your AMD rig.

-probably not your CPU. Chances are very slim that you would have 2+1 dead cpus.

-still a possibility that you had 3 bad boards in a row or maybe messed one up then got bad boards, doesn't matter really.

-still a possibility that all of your memory sticks were killed by a bad board and the other boards just won't work with them or a combination thereof.

So, I suggest going back to CompUSA and exchanging first the board and the memory in whatever combination or sequence you think would work. I would go for the memory first.

Hope that helps.

Good Luck!
 
Both motherboards do not appear to support the 805 chip or the 326 chip. ECS mobo here. EPoX here. (download zip. open Intel PDF. Page 2. Second board down.) This is an old pdf support file but the FAQ makes no mention of upgrading CPU support since the initial revision of BIOS. I suggest getting a board that states that it supports the CPU definately (or borrow a friends) and test both chips. Everything else seems ok.
 
ICE_9 said:
Both motherboards do not appear to support the 805 chip or the 326 chip. ECS mobo here. EPoX here. (download zip. open Intel PDF. Page 2. Second board down.) This is an old pdf support file but the FAQ makes no mention of upgrading CPU support since the initial revision of BIOS. I suggest getting a board that states that it supports the CPU definately (or borrow a friends) and test both chips. Everything else seems ok.
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The Epox board does support the Celeron up to 351@3.2GHz.
 
Well, the ECS board troubleshooting should be thrown out. Neither processor was on the approved list. I still think that another mobo by a company that states "this 805 will work with this board" would be a good place to start. No questions on revs just straight up support.
 
I agree it has to be either the mobo or the cpu. In this case I would be leaning toward getting another mobo that is known to work with the 805.
 
ICE_9 said:
Well, the ECS board troubleshooting should be thrown out. Neither processor was on the approved list. I still think that another mobo by a company that states "this 805 will work with this board" would be a good place to start. No questions on revs just straight up support.
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I also think ECS is junk. This is the reason why I didn't bother to check the ECS for CPU support in my previous post because it says enough that the Epox supports the celeron. I just checked now. In fact, the ECS also support the 64-bit celeron all up to the 351, and the regular celeron up to 355. The point is no matter what I think of ECS, the celeron was supported by both boards so the reason they're not posting is not because they don't support the cpu.
 
I agree. I have noticed simularities between the EPoX board and the ECS board. I am definately an ASUS and ABIT fan for boards.
 
ICE_9 said:
Any updates on this issue? Suggestions anyone?
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I've basically put the Intel rig on hold since I got a LP NF4 Ultra-D from monarch, and have been busy screwing with my AMD rig.

But the Intel still isn't working, and I'm still out of ideas. I suppose I could look for someone with a known working LGA775 CPU to test, but that's about all I can think of.
 
I had a similar issue with my Asus P5N32SLI Dlx board. I got it and it wouldn't recognize the 2nd video card, so I flashed to an older bios and it wouldn't boot. I got the new board, put it together, wouldn't boot. Turned out only the latest bios supported the 920, so I ahd to rebuild it with my 820, flash it to the newest bios, tear it apart, rebuild it with my 920 and now its working fine!

My suggestion would be try a single core chip, then flash the bios, then install your dual core chip.
 
BigFNDeal said:
My suggestion would be try a single core chip, then flash the bios, then install your dual core chip.
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I tried with a single core Celeron D 326, and it still wouldn't boot, do you suggest I try a different (more common, perhaps) processor?
 
Man, Im sorry your having such difficulty with your set-up But I do have a couple of suggestions for you.

1. Try an Asus board instead of the Epox brands, ive never been a fan of those boards and every single time i buy a board thats not an Asus i regret it later on.

2. Make sure the ram your Using is compatible with the Motherboard as well.

3. Also make sure the voltage selector button on the powersupply somehow didnt get switched to 220v from 115v which is standard in the US anyway.
 
FlyinBrian said:
1. Try an Asus board instead of the Epox brands, ive never been a fan of those boards and every single time i buy a board thats not an Asus i regret it later on.
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I've been more than happy with my EPoX 8RDA, 9NDA3+, and 9NPA+Ultra, and also my ECS K7S5A and two K7VTA3 rev8s.

FlyinBrian said:
2. Make sure the ram your Using is compatible with the Motherboard as well.
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I've tried two different sets of ram, each in dual channel (in each set of slots) and individually, in each slot.

FlyinBrian said:
3. Also make sure the voltage selector button on the powersupply somehow didnt get switched to 220v from 115v which is standard in the US anyway.
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Yup, I checked that on both PSU's I tried, they're set to 115v.

Thanks for trying.
 
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