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The HealthCare.gov website has been hit by glitch #3,859,883. No need to worry, the government says it will "resolve the issue as quickly as possible." :rolleyes:

The tech team monitoring HealthCare.gov in real time has identified an issue with users creating new accounts. The application and enrollment tools are unavailable to new users at the moment," Albright said. "The tech team is working to resolve the issue as quickly as possible.
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I'll just pay the penalty next year. No way am I going to have anything to do with this garbage.
 
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After early morning delays attributed to regular maintenance, a technical problem then hit the site sometime around noon ET.
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Really? Regular maintenance? On the last day of the month? On a deadline?

Let's just say they picked the wrong day to do "regular maintenance".
 
You outsource, you pay the price. The Feds REALLY need to come up with new procedures for SW development for contractors, if that hasn't been made clear by now.
 
As someone who's parent was just fired for the most bullshit reason, and who has a very serious illness, my perspective on this has changed. Instead of several hundred dollars per month for COBRA, she was able to choose between $9/mo for a "Bronze" package and ~$135/mo for a "Silver" package. This was the difference between having health insurance at all while having cancer. No way to afford a mortgage, even a reasonable one, and that health care cost, on unemployment.
 
Madoc said:
I'll just pay the penalty next year. No way am I going to have anything to do with this garbage.
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I hear you on that.

I'd rather pay the penalty than knowingly support something based on lies.
 
Madoc said:
I'll just pay the penalty next year. No way am I going to have anything to do with this garbage.
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I dont get this at all. By doing this you are paying a penalty, AND have no health insurance if something bad happens.

I can get not liking the law / fighting the law, but it seems the above is only hurting yourself.
 
TwistedAegis said:
As someone who's parent was just fired for the most bullshit reason, and who has a very serious illness, my perspective on this has changed. Instead of several hundred dollars per month for COBRA, she was able to choose between $9/mo for a "Bronze" package and ~$135/mo for a "Silver" package. This was the difference between having health insurance at all while having cancer. No way to afford a mortgage, even a reasonable one, and that health care cost, on unemployment.
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Do you know the differences and what the coverage is?
Is the max out-of-pocket in-network $5.5k and out-of-network $11k?
Those are my max out-of-pocket for a $42/mo package.
 
pxc said:
What, health insurance? Sucks2bu.
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I'm fine with it. I've been to the doctor exactly once in the past 20 years. And there is NO WAY that I'm going to accept the idea that the government can *force* me to obtain health insurance. If that makes me appear irrational, then so be it. It may suck to be me, but that has nothing to do with the status of my health insurance.

If others want to join this forced wealth transfer plan, then that's their business, and I'll leave it to them to decide if it sucks for them. I'll just give the IRS $69 next year and move on.
 
Madoc said:
I'm fine with it. I've been to the doctor exactly once in the past 20 years. And there is NO WAY that I'm going to accept the idea that the government can *force* me to obtain health insurance. If that makes me appear irrational, then so be it. It may suck to be me, but that has nothing to do with the status of my health insurance.

If others want to join this forced wealth transfer plan, then that's their business, and I'll leave it to them to decide if it sucks for them. I'll just give the IRS $69 next year and move on.
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Well wolverine here doesn't need healthcare. I think we should give him an exception for his mutant healing ability THAT WILL CONTINUE FOREVER
 
Cali3350 said:
I dont get this at all. By doing this you are paying a penalty, AND have no health insurance if something bad happens.

I can get not liking the law / fighting the law, but it seems the above is only hurting yourself.
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1. The principle of the matter.

2. Maybe you should look in to how much the penalty is, and then compare that to how much a single male would likely have to pay.

But mainly it's because of #1. You have to draw the line on government intrusion somewhere, and this is where I've chosen to draw it.
 
maverikv said:
Well wolverine here doesn't need healthcare. I think we should give him an exception for his mutant healing ability THAT WILL CONTINUE FOREVER
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My health is my problem and my responsibility. I didn't ask for the government to get involved in it, and I refuse to allow it. If you don't have a problem with the government involved in your health care, then that's fine: that's your own business.

And I like Wolverine. He's a pretty cool guy.
 
Madoc said:
My health is my problem and my responsibility. I didn't ask for the government to get involved in it, and I refuse to allow it. If you don't have a problem with the government involved in your health care, then that's fine: that's your own business.

And I like Wolverine. He's a pretty cool guy.
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Until something goes wrong with your health and you end up in the emergency room with no coverage, which I then have to pay for.

You're right. Its your responsibility and your problem. So get some coverage.
 
Madoc said:
1. The principle of the matter.

2. Maybe you should look in to how much the penalty is, and then compare that to how much a single male would likely have to pay.

But mainly it's because of #1. You have to draw the line on government intrusion somewhere, and this is where I've chosen to draw it.
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Isn't it 90 a year or something? But I think it's going to raise next year and keep raising.
 
maverikv said:
Until something goes wrong with your health and you end up in the emergency room with no coverage, which I then have to pay for.

You're right. Its your responsibility and your problem. So get some coverage.
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Isn't that paying the penalty now, though? I doubt the 9 dollars a month or whatever plan would be much difference. Barring of course, the different company if he gets it from a different company than you.
 
maverikv said:
Until something goes wrong with your health and you end up in the emergency room with no coverage, which I then have to pay for.

You're right. Its your responsibility and your problem. So get some coverage.
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Not going to happen. I hope lots of people, knowingly or unknowingly, take the penalty. Nothing would make me happier than seeing this socialist boondoggle crushed with insolvency to go along with its incompetence. And while I can't state with certainty that I'll never see the inside of an emergency room in the future, I can say that if I do it won't be by my choice.

And you are already paying for others. Just wait until the numbers start coming in and they have to adjust premiums to attempt to stave off insolvency. Yeah, just watch them skyrocket... because you *are* paying for others. So it doesn't really matter if I get it or not, does it, financially speaking I mean: you're *are* going to pay, and you'll keep right on paying for as long as this program continues. If you're fine with that, so be it, but I'm not going to join you.
 
Serpent said:
Isn't it 90 a year or something? But I think it's going to raise next year and keep raising.
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I believe it's $68 next year (FY 2014), then $350ish the following year, then around $600 after that. I don't know if it keeps going up from there. Still a lot cheaper than getting it, and I will sleep happily knowing I'm not supporting something I find reprehensible. Whether it's worth it to you is for you to decide, but I've made my decision.
 
Madoc said:
Not going to happen. I hope lots of people, knowingly or unknowingly, take the penalty. Nothing would make me happier than seeing this socialist boondoggle crushed with insolvency to go along with its incompetence. And while I can't state with certainty that I'll never see the inside of an emergency room in the future, I can say that if I do it won't be by my choice.

And you are already paying for others. Just wait until the numbers start coming in and they have to adjust premiums to attempt to stave off insolvency. Yeah, just watch them skyrocket... because you *are* paying for others. So it doesn't really matter if I get it or not, does it, financially speaking I mean: you're *are* going to pay, and you'll keep right on paying for as long as this program continues. If you're fine with that, so be it, but I'm not going to join you.
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LOL Socialist boondoggle. In what way is this socialist?
 
Runt. said:
Do you know the differences and what the coverage is?
Is the max out-of-pocket in-network $5.5k and out-of-network $11k?
Those are my max out-of-pocket for a $42/mo package.
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Honestly, I'm not sure; that sounds fairly similar to the Bronze plan I believe.

And our employer-sponsored healthcare system is just as ridiculous, if not more so.

And finally, I can say that, nearly by definition, no one goes to the emergency room "by choice". That's why they call it insurance.
 
How is $250 a month for the lowest (bronze) package supposed to be good?
 
maverikv said:
LOL Socialist boondoggle. In what way is this socialist?
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Socialism = Take from the producers and give to the couch abusers.

In this case, Democrats have been trying to do this with every election I can think of. Welfare, damn near endless Unemployment, Food stamps, Obamacare, Minimum wage, lowering the requirements for Disability, you name it. If you don't have, can't have, or better yet, refuse to try and earn on your own, never fear, the Democrats would love to get it for you in exchange for a little bit of your freedom and eventually, total dependency on on Government aid. Democrats can't win elections without trying to give you something you didn't earn.

You pretty much admitted to "Socialism" when you stated
maverikv said:
Until something goes wrong with your health and you end up in the emergency room with no coverage, which I then have to pay for.
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If he refuses to pay, you will cover him against your will, the Gubment will make sure of it. Socialism....
 
I am paying the penalty also. I signed up and didn't see one "affordable" insurance plan that would have actual benefits I could use. I go to the doctor and pay out of my pocket for everything and it doesn't even come close to 1/3 of the deductible on any "affordable" plan and costs less than 1/3 the yearly fee even with the added tax penalty. They might have some good plans there if you are already seriously ill and can get subsidies from the government for those obscenely expensive plans, but if you are relatively healthy or even just a slight bit sickly, every "affordable" plan will cost you 2x-3x more than if you just paid the doctor, laboratories and meds out of your pocket.

Yeah you can argue about emergencies, and it's a valid point, and maybe if they offered some kind of affordable catastrophic plan I would enroll, but since I know exactly how much I spend on health, there is no chance I am going to pay them 3x what I spend annually on health care where I still have to pay for the healthcare I am using now, and if I get really sick or into an emergency, I still end up paying half the bill. That to me is too much of a scam.
 
PinchedNerve said:
Socialism = Take from the producers and give to the couch abusers.

In this case, Democrats have been trying to do this with every election I can think of. Welfare, damn near endless Unemployment, Food stamps, Obamacare, Minimum wage, lowering the requirements for Disability, you name it. If you don't have, can't have, or better yet, refuse to try and earn on your own, never fear, the Democrats would love to get it for you in exchange for a little bit of your freedom and eventually, total dependency on on Government aid. Democrats can't win elections without trying to give you something you didn't earn.

You pretty much admitted to "Socialism" when you stated


If he refuses to pay, you will cover him against your will, the Gubment will make sure of it. Socialism....
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That's not the government taking it against my will goomba, its the hospital charging paying customers more for the services they have to provide for free to uninsured parasites who use the emergency room like a walk in clinic.
 
PinchedNerve said:
Socialism = Take from the producers and give to the couch abusers.
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Actually socialism is an economic and political system where the workers control the means of production. It has nothing to do with paying for health insurance.
 
Cali3350 said:
I dont get this at all. By doing this you are paying a penalty, AND have no health insurance if something bad happens.

I can get not liking the law / fighting the law, but it seems the above is only hurting yourself.
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That's his choice to make. Not yours, not the government, not mine, but his.
 
maverikv said:
Until something goes wrong with your health and you end up in the emergency room with no coverage, which I then have to pay for.

You're right. Its your responsibility and your problem. So get some coverage.
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News flash, premiums went up 100% for some people. We're paying for it either way.
 
jimmyb said:
Actually socialism is an economic and political system where the workers control the means of production. It has nothing to do with paying for health insurance.
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I thought that was the definition of Communism, not Socialism. But my Polisci days are far behind me, so I could be wrong.
 
Madoc said:
Not going to happen. I hope lots of people, knowingly or unknowingly, take the penalty. Nothing would make me happier than seeing this socialist boondoggle crushed with insolvency to go along with its incompetence. And while I can't state with certainty that I'll never see the inside of an emergency room in the future, I can say that if I do it won't be by my choice.

And you are already paying for others. Just wait until the numbers start coming in and they have to adjust premiums to attempt to stave off insolvency. Yeah, just watch them skyrocket... because you *are* paying for others. So it doesn't really matter if I get it or not, does it, financially speaking I mean: you're *are* going to pay, and you'll keep right on paying for as long as this program continues. If you're fine with that, so be it, but I'm not going to join you.
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Actually, costs are growing at their slowest rate in the past 50 years. And the insurance co's? They're making a killing, so that should farther keep costs in check.

So despite the fact 45% of the country is doing everything possible to make the law fail, its doing EXACTLY what it intended to do: Lower the rate of cost increases while increasing the number of people insured, borrowing the ideas of the Republican Healthcare Plan of 1993. [We borrowed this from Republicans, remember? And yes, they liked this when it was their idea.]

Of course, a public option would be better since you basically have to cover just the cost of care, rather then cost + 20%, and guarantee some basic form of coverage for everyone without exception. This is an improvement, but not the end all.

In NY, I have twelve options to choose from, and frankly, I ditched my employer plan at the first chance I got (Cigna, so no brainer their). And got better coverage. And saved money. And if your state doesn't have fair competition to lower prices, maybe you should look at your states implementation of the law, or in many cases, lack thereof, rather then blaming the law itself.
 
maverikv said:
That's not the government taking it against my will goomba, its the hospital charging paying customers more for the services they have to provide for free to uninsured parasites who use the emergency room like a walk in clinic.
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:rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q06u0n9UfW0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Waw2F5dQMgE

CBO: Obamacare Will 'Reduce Incentives to Work;' WH Spins It As 'Choice' February 5, 2014 - 8:32 AM
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Just vote Democrat, take from the producers, work less, get stuff.
 
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