New Gaming Build

TuxedoBond

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1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc
Mostly gaming and playing audio/video. A little bit of video encoding on the side.
2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?
$800 including tax and shipping. Possibly higher if need be.
3) Where do you live?
USA.
4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. Please be very specific.
Case, CPU, DVD Writer, Radeon 4870 or greater, HDD 1TB minimum, Motherboard, PSU, 8GB of RAM with heat spreaders, Sound Card, and anything else I will need for the build, such as cables, thermal paste, heatsink/fan, etc.
5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.
Not applicable.
6) Will you be overclocking?
Yes, as much as I can get with a stock or inexpensive third party cooler.
7) What size monitor do you have and/or plan to have?
22-24 inch LCD.
8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?
Soon.
9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? etc.
RAID. IDE preferred but not necessarily needed.
10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license?
Yes.


The sound card will run to a receiver in a 6.1/7.1 home theater surround sound system in the future, so it needs to provide a sufficient sound quality.

I want the system to be upgradeable in the CPU and GPU department.

I also need recommendations for the following(the budget for these items is separate from the core build above):

Gaming monitor. 22-24 inchs viewing area. 1920 x 1080 or 1920 x 1200 resolution (preferred).
Budget: $200 - $250

Headset with microphone (ideally directional).
Budget: $50 - $70

Gaming keyboard. It needs to have good macro keys, software and back lighting (especially important). The keys need to be clearly visible in darkness with the back light on and day light with it off.
Budget: $30 - $50

A small non cloth chair with arm rests, adjustable height and reclining capabilities.

The lower end of the price spectrum is what I am aiming for on all of these.
 
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Logitech G15 for keyboard. Saitek is also an option.

Microsoft, Razer, and the rest just aren't on the same level yet.

I would get the older G15 here: http://computers.pricegrabber.com/k....html/search=logitech g15/st=product/sv=title

The biggest difference is that the screen can move up and down and it has a volume knob instead of buttons. So much better than buttons. It is slightly wider I think since the newer one consolidates all the G keys into one line. It's also blue instead of the newer red.

I've got both of them and prefer the older blue one.
 
Consider this for your budget.

CASE/PSU - Antec 300 + Antec Earthwatts 500 both for $105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.197378

CPU/VIDEO CARD - AMD Phenom II X4 940 3.0ghz + Sapphire Radeon HD 4890 1GB both for $370 ($10 MIR on VIDEO CARD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.199015

MOBO - GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X for $110 w/free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387

RAM - OCZ Platinum 4GB DDR2 1066 for $46 w/free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227298

HDD - WD1001FALS 1TB for $100 w/free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

OPTICAL - Samsung 22X DVD Burner for $26
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151171

HEATSINK - XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V for $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233029

Total: $797 before shipping & taxes

MONITOR - ASUS VH242H 23.6in for $189 w/free shipping
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010377

Reviews

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2346114,00.asp

http://hothardware.com/Articles/Asus-VH242H-236-Widescreen-LCD-Monitor/

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2371

http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Displays/ASUS-VH242H.html
 
$700 build

CASE/PSU - Antec 300 + Antec Earthwatts 500 both for $105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.197378

CPU/RAM - AMD Phenom II X3 710 2.6ghz + G. Skill 4GB DDR2 1066 both for $129
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.203453

MOBO - GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X for $110 w/free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387

VIDEO CARD - HIS Radeon HD 4890 1 GB for $180 w/free shipping ($20 MIR)
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010252

HDD - WD1001FALS 1TB for $100 w/free shipping ($15 MIR)
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10008824

OPTICAL - Samsung 22X DVD Burner for $26
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151171

HEATSINK - XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V for $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233029

Total: $690 before shipping & taxes
 
Phenom 2 710 isn't that great of overclocker with a limit to about 3.3 GHz with 800 memory. Isn't the best in terms for gaming cpu. Next up on the food chain 720 would do the job nicely.

Dark knight is just painted 1283 with 1366 bracket in the box, standard 1283 is better value to him.
 
^^

Not necessarily. The Dark Knight uses a retention bracket (the $10 crossbow kit) rather than the crappy push pins. It'd make installation much easier and for $7 more than the standard cooler, it looks better as well as cheaper if he were to buy the optional kit.
 
huh... that is for 775 installations.... this is AM2+ which uses a clip to install.
 
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Oh snap. lol. Well, I suppose it wouldn't be any difference then so it'll be up to him to decide if he wants to spend $7 for looks.
 
Logitech G15 for keyboard. Saitek is also an option.

Microsoft, Razer, and the rest just aren't on the same level yet.

I would get the older G15 here: http://computers.pricegrabber.com/k....html/search=logitech g15/st=product/sv=title

The biggest difference is that the screen can move up and down and it has a volume knob instead of buttons. So much better than buttons. It is slightly wider I think since the newer one consolidates all the G keys into one line. It's also blue instead of the newer red.

I've got both of them and prefer the older blue one.
Which color is easier to view the keys and LCD in day time and night? From pictures the amber appears to define the keys and screen better. Which can be made brighter?
 
Both are about the same brightness. I'm talking about the Logitech G15 keyboards.

Both are equally good at lighting the keys.

Actually, if you don't need a screen, the Saitek Eclipse II is pretty damn good. Logitech and Saitek have the best feel for key presses and I might even give the edge to Saitek.

It also takes up less room than the G15 and you can switch between a few colors. I think it's red, blue, and purple.

redbaron.keyboardmouse1.jpg


logitech-new-g15-vs-old-g15.jpg


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logitechg15-lit.jpg


But seriously, the blue one is better. This product strangely got worse with the upgrade. The screen being able to tilt is actually something you take for granted until you can't. The orange screen is also not as easy to read. The volume knob on the blue version, well not a knob, but you turn it like you would on an ipod, this is awesome in comparison to the cheap feeling volume buttons on the new version. Also, the buttons you press to cycle through lighting power feels cheaper on the newer verison as well. I like the fact that they took off the weird handle things on the top and there's less "G" buttons but really if you can get the blue G15, do it.

There have been a couple keyboards from other companies like Razer Tarantula and some newer one and Microsoft Sidewinder but I've had the chance to try em out and the quality is just not on par yet.
 
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reason why I suggested 640 GB over 1 TB drives is performance. 640 GB are much faster than WD current 1 TB drives.
 
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