New findings on r360 9800pro.

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pduan87

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A lot of the newer 9800pros are shipping with r360 cores. Even the 128mb ram ones. So for the tweakers out there, in order to hit above even a measly 410mhz, you WILL need to vgpu mod that baby.

Problem is... r360 core needs 1.8v, 9800pro gives 1.7v. Just to clarify some confusions people may have when they wonder why their 9800pros won't clock high.
 
i feel like im SITTING on a banana after reading that nonsense

edit: if its not bullshit, sorry, but given the date.
 
Originally posted by omega-x
i feel like im SITTING on a banana after reading that nonsense

edit: if its not bullshit, sorry, but given the date.
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this april fools stuff is old already. the genmay forums are now backwards. suprnova has gone japanese...google is hiring on mars....
 
.... this isn't an april fools joke. Go try and o/c that r360 core over 410mhz, run rthdribl and tell me if you get artifacts.
 
Originally posted by pduan87
.... this isn't an april fools joke. Go try and o/c that r360 core over 410mhz, run rthdribl and tell me if you get artifacts.
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running rthdribl at 473 on my 9800NP :confused: (no artifacts)
 
Originally posted by Killa|3yte
running rthdribl at 473 on my 9800NP :confused: (no artifacts)
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You don't have the r360 core on your 9800np. I am also guessing that you are heavily modded. This situation only applies if you have a R360 core on a 9800pro 128mb pcb.
 
well per ATI Tool my 9800Pro is an R350 not R360 and it is running fine at 416/716
 
Originally posted by pduan87
You don't have the r360 core on your 9800np. I am also guessing that you are heavily modded. This situation only applies if you have a R360 core on a 9800pro 128mb pcb.
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So no problems if you have an R360 core on a 9800 Pro 256mb model?
 
Originally posted by gigglebyte
well per ATI Tool my 9800Pro is an R350 not R360 and it is running fine at 416/716
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not sure if atitool can detect the r360 core if it is on a 9800pro .. can anybody verify that?
 
r360s have shipped with 128mb 9800p.. This is a FACT, as r350 core supply has been extremely short..
 
Just got one :(

Sapphire R9800PRO 128MB Atlantis
R360 Core.
Dunno what it will do unmodded as I removed the heatsink to put on watercooling.

Ah feck it - will put the stock HS on and see what it does - also if ATITool can detect the R360 Core.


Fury
 
My 9800Pro with the XT core won't do full XT speeds, but I'm assuming that's because of the lack of voltage as-stated above. It could also use a little more ram speed in my opinion, but who am I to argue? :p

Maybe I'll pencil mod it :D heheheh
 
Originally posted by Celestial Fury
Just got one :(

Sapphire R9800PRO 128MB Atlantis
R360 Core.
Dunno what it will do unmodded as I removed the heatsink to put on watercooling.

Ah feck it - will put the stock HS on and see what it does - also if ATITool can detect the R360 Core.


Fury
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That would explain my crappy overclock. In fact I got the same as you really however I am on stock cooling.
 
OK
ATITool CANNOT detect the R360 Core. It must simply use a database for identifying the PROBABLE core. Shouldnt be there really for the 9800PROs as it CAN give the wrong info - should simply say unknown or R350/360.

Checking max core as I type with ATITool.


Fury
 
406/370 is the max ati tool comes up with for this card. Time for a BIOS flash methinks with the gigacube e-die bios


Fury
 
this all does seem to make sense to me actually, i got my 9800Pro 128 in and it installed like a champ...ran benchies all nite then next day i fire up ATi Tool and it seems to just hit a brick wall at around XT speeds for the core....arggh

but i guess i could BIOS flash it as the memory on mine has no probs hitting 365 at all. but would that fix the voltage issue? grrr... =(
 
scratch that... upon further inspection (taking off hsf) it appears i have an r360 after all... atitool is such a tool, said i had an r350:mad:
 
well, it appears that an r360 on a 128mb 9800p pcb can only oc up to about 410 core without the mod = why i'd prefer an r350. on mine i can only get up to 405mhz without artifacts.
 
I guess I don't understand? My card would barely break 400 and would definitely not go 412. I flashed it to 360 and now it does close to 460 with no mods.(?):confused:
 
im guessing that the XT bios supplies more voltage to the core thus you can push it farther than what the 9800Pro bios would have let you...if this is the case then all the better, i mite have to pop off the HSF on mine and see which one i got. if i have a R360 core i guess i mite have to google around to see if theres a 128MB version XT bios and have fun. =P
 
so then as long as you softmod you're basicly getting an xt for $200 less and a worse cooler?
 
Mine has the exact same problem. I cant get the core above 410 mHz. Time for a voltmod :-D

linkage??

b0b
 
In my BIOS (Motherboard) I have AGP Voltage set to 1.5V (I have upto 1.7V available). Should I change this voltage, or do you mean some internal 9800 BIOS voltage setting? I have a Sapphire Radeon 9800 128MB PRO which only does 380/355, it's stable at 405/365 but snow does happen and sometimes artifacting. I don't know what core, but should I flash it?
 
Originally posted by KickAssCop
What is stated in this post is true! Just give it 1.8V and watch it fly!
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But why would a R360 core overclock lower than a R350 core at lower than 1,8 voltage??
 
because it's been speed binned ..
ati makes r360 chip
tests if it is error free, if not test if 4 pipes work -> 9800se chip else throw away
test if it can run 412 mhz, yes -> xt chip, no -> 9800 pro chip
 
So since it has the R360 Core does that mean I can monitor the temps since it has a thermal diode on the core???

b0b
 
no thermal monitor unless its a 9800xt pcb, not even if its an r360 9800p.
 
Originally posted by Bodega
no thermal monitor unless its a 9800xt pcb, not even if its an r360 9800p.
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Swing and a miss.

A number of the 9800pro 256mb models are just XT cards with a pro bios and cheesy heatsink.

Can't speak for the 128mb versions with the R360 cores.
 
Right, but all the ones with thermal monitoring are on the 9800xt pcb. You can buy a 9800p with an r360 but non on the XT pcb.
 
Originally posted by StrongBadia
Right, but all the ones with thermal monitoring are on the 9800xt pcb. You can buy a 9800p with an r360 but non on the XT pcb.
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That's not what it sounded like from how you stated it. Not to me at least. :p
 
I didn't state anything :) .

I can confirm this, however. My 9800p is on a 9800xt pcb with an r360 and hynix ram. I flashed to XT bios and shazam!
 
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