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new E8400\bord\mem - do i need a format ?

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asd1301

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i'm upgrading my old AMD3200 now to a new E8400\p35dsl\4gb\8800gts G92
my question is if i realy realy need to format :( ?
the most thing i hate in this world is a format !!!:mad:
what will happand if i just upgrate all that hardware withought a format ? (win XP pro SP2)
?

other questions :
1) will my psu (enermax 425 noistaker) enoght for that new hardware + oc to 4GHZ ?
2) will freezer pro 7 enough for 3.8 ....3.9 GHZ ?

10x !!
:D
 
When you switch hardware that dramatically, yes, you need to do a fresh reinstall of your OS, or you will have unresolvable strange system problems.

1) http://www.lucomputers.com/product_parts_detail.asp?class=&pro_class=272&id=2966&parent_id=272
You have 22A on each of 2 12 volt rails.
Your 8800gts has the following requirement according to newegg: Minimum of a 400 Watt power supply. (Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 26 Amps.)
With the dual rails, your system will have more than enough power.

2) the E8400 starts at 3ghz. That's quite an overclock. I like the freezer pro 7.. Another poster may be able to help more on this one, but I'd say you also have to factor in your case.
 
how many HDs, CD drives, and pci devices are you running. You could be comming close to total watt here.
 
He'll be fine, I think the 425 was a typo as the noisetaker's come in 485watt. I know a 8800gt and 3.0ghz conroe doesnt use more 280watts from the wall socket while gaming. thats what my wife uses, and I've tested it with a kill-a-watt device.

My sig only pulls 320+watts at the plug, while heavy gaming, and is almost identical to what the OP is building.
 
RamonGTP said:
I would say definitely
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Qft

you COULD do a sysprep / reseal, but I doubt it would work well / properly since you're going from an AMD system to an Intel.

its worked for me most of the time, except when I went from a Via mini-itx system to an Intel/sis (little valley) itx mobo.

just do a clean install, it will work better than anything else.
 
i don't want to format .......soooo many thing in my c:\ installed ....don't have the power or time to do that :(

what's that "sysprep / reseal" u talked about ? what do u mean ?

and again ...what will happand if i won't format and re-install ? the windows should just find a new hardware instaled no ? why whould it make problems when u think of it ?

:rolleyes:
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If you don't format, you will get lots of BSOD's soon making your new hardware and computer, useless, thats my experience.
 
Seriously, if you don't want to format, you should return all that hardware because it just won't work right. There is a reason everyone is recommending a reformat.

What would happen, quite likely it would blue screen on reboot and go through and endless loop. Even if youget lucky and are able to boot into windows and get all the drivers installed, you will never have the performance you should be getting from the system. There will always be left over drivers that will cause problems.
 
It never hurts to try doing a repair install of XP. It will update drivers and such without losing your data and installed programs. Just boot of the install CD and when you get to the select drive portion, you should be able to hit R to repair the installation vice completely reinstalling. I've done it many, many times, including moving from AMD to Intel and it almost always works without a problem.
 
you would most likely have driver issues if you choose not to reformat.
 
I hate repair installs more than anything. Sure, it may "work" and the reason I put it in quotes is beucase I've never done one that did not come with it's own share of problems. It'll probbaly work to the point where the PC will boot into windows, but again, performance suffers. Many programs don't work properly, some even need to get completely reinstalled, and some don't even properly uninstall when you tell them to. The problem gets compounded if your existing install has a service pack installed that your original media does not include.
 
A format is the best option cause the level of change to your system, plus windows is gonna require activation again too. Bascially your doing a heart transplant and trying to use bandaids to close the wound, lol.
 
It amazes me how many people have a knee-jerk reaction to format for any cause. I went from a nForce4-based socket 939 AMD system to a P35-based socket 775 Intel system. Everything just worked; no repair-install, no fuss, no nothing. I just booted up normally and got the "Windows has detected new hardware" box popping up. All I had to do is uninstall the old drivers and install the new ones while in safe mode (under 32-bit XP). All the talk about leftover drivers slowing down the system is bunk, especially if you uninstall them (the normal way, "Add/Remove Programs" in the control panel) afterwords.

That said, I don't doubt that some people have problems with it. Still, it doesn't hurt to try, and would be much easier than reinstalling all your programs from scratch, unless you really have very few programs installed. So backup your hard drive first, then just try booting it and see if it works alright. Then install the latest drivers for your new hardware from the Internet, and uninstall the old ones, and you're done if it works. If that doesn't work, try the repair-install. Then, and only then, if it doesn't work, is it worth the effort to format and install from scratch.
 
farfromhome said:
It amazes me how many people have a knee-jerk reaction to format for any cause. I went from a nForce4-based socket 939 AMD system to a P35-based socket 775 Intel system. Everything just worked; no repair-install, no fuss, no nothing. I just booted up normally and got the "Windows has detected new hardware" box popping up. All I had to do is uninstall the old drivers and install the new ones while in safe mode (under 32-bit XP). All the talk about leftover drivers slowing down the system is bunk, especially if you uninstall them (the normal way, "Add/Remove Programs" in the control panel) afterwords.

That said, I don't doubt that some people have problems with it. Still, it doesn't hurt to try, and would be much easier than reinstalling all your programs from scratch, unless you really have very few programs installed. So backup your hard drive first, then just try booting it and see if it works alright. Then install the latest drivers for your new hardware from the Internet, and uninstall the old ones, and you're done if it works. If that doesn't work, try the repair-install. Then, and only then, if it doesn't work, is it worth the effort to format and install from scratch.
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+1 to that. The worst thing that can happen is that it doens't work and you have to re-install, which is what you would have done anyway. As to the "slowdown" issue - I moved my XP Pro install through three motherboard/CP combos using only repair installs, and it ran just as well as the first day. Only word of advice, if you can, slipstream XP SP2 using nlite to avoid issues with downgrading from SP2 to basic XP when you do the repair.
 
A COMPLTETLY new system with just about every piece of hardware being changed is hardly "any cause"
 
Went from amd x2 4000+ biostar nvidia 4 motherboard to a e8400+ evga motherboard and booted right into windows and everything ran fine. Both chipsets are nvidia 4 but the intel one is an nf4 ultra.

Even though it booted up fine i still re-formatted her.
 
You might take a look at this.
"Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed"
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

Can someone explain how "excess drivers" that don't load, and a Device Manager tree that shows all device functioning properly, can cause problems?
I'm not being argumentative, I really don't get it!
 
RamonGTP said:
A COMPLTETLY new system with just about every piece of hardware being changed is hardly "any cause"
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I agree, but I wasn't referring to you or the OP. I have seen threads where people recommend reformatting when changing a CPU, memory, or a hard drive. :p The only component that can cause issues when changed is the motherboard, and even then, not always (or even usually).
 
10x ..great GUIDES u gave here .....
but there is a problem with that "Sysprep" guide here :
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828287
it's saying :
" Different processor vendors
We do not support using Sysprep to install an operating system from an image if the image was created by using a computer that has a different processor. For example, you cannot create a Sysprep image on a computer that has an Intel processor and deploy the image to a computer that has an AMD processor."

well ' now i have amd3200 and moving to intel E8400 ...so i can't use this way right ?

B U T !...in the replies some 1 game a link to this program for sp2 winXP :

" full automated prcedure to move winxp from one hardware to another can be found at this link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/18172527/WinMBoardMig.zip
It works ONLY on WINXP sp2;
The soft takes care of things as hal detecting and change; also takes care of adding critical drivers and modify the system registry hive to prepare windows to found all hardware on next boot;
you can sysprep prior to run this util;
then you can deploy with one image for any motherboard
You must run winpe or bart pe on target motherboard with the target disk (with old os on it) installed in the motherboard

but i didn't understand what does it mean if some 1 can explain to me maby ....(the last reply in the link) :

"You MUST get bart pe from the internet and make your bart pe (winpe) cd to boot your machine with the old disk (old windows) installed on your new mobo. Then run the software and give the path to your old windows folder in your old HD.

This will modify the registry files on your old windows and will add some critical drivers along with the correct hall and kernel images for your new mobo.

After that the old windows (old cd) will we ready to boo on the new mobo and start finding all the needed drivers for optimum performance."

if i install on the same HD c:\ at the same dir (c:\windows) i still need to that that ?
 
If you want the new system to run without problems, and you use your computer for everything......

1) back up files using the XP backup utility
2) make a slipstream disc that has xp and sp2.....you can google it.
3) build your system
4) do a clean install.

Problem: your HDD has been operating with an AMD MB and now you're going to build an Intel system.....you'll never find problems if you have them....a clean install is always the best answer even though it's a PITA.
 
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