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Warrior1986
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- Feb 25, 2007
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First off, would like to say hi, as I've been a lurker on these forums for a while. That changed once I bought my new X2 4400+ Rev E (89 Watts TDP instead of 110 Watts TDP) to replace my aging FX-55. 
That said, I hope to get some help here because I posted on AnAndTech and haven't really gotten much help.
Here is my system information that I believe is critical so you know what I have exactly.
CPU: AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+
Motherboard: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
Bios: 1011
Graphics Card: XFX GeForce 8800 GTS OC'ed (630 core/970 mem)
Memory: 4x Corsair CMX512-3200XLPRO at 2-2-2-5
Hard Drive: 2x Western Digital 74GB Raptors in RAID 0
Power Supply: PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 510
Operating System: Windows XP Pro SP2
CPU Cooling: Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu LED w/ Artic Silver 5
GPU Cooling: Stock XFX Cooling
Memory Cooling: Stock Corsair Heatsinks
Case Cooling: Custom Lian-Li PC-61 done by FrozenCPU - 2 80mm Panaflo front intake, 1 120mm Panaflo side intake, 1 80mm Panaflo blowhole exhaust, 1 80mm Panaflow rear exhaust
Temperatures
CPU - Idle: 32-33
CPU - Load: 45-47
Case: 37-39
Speeds
CPU
Stock: 2.2 GHz
Memory - Timings
Stock: 2-2-2-5
Graphics Card - Core
Stock: 500 MHz
Overclocked: 630 MHz
Graphics Card - Memory
Stock: 800 MHz
Overclocked: 970 MHz
I'll just post what I put up on AnAndTech since I don't want to retype. Sorry ahead of time for some of the questions, as I am noob when it comes to overclocking the CPU and memory. My knowledge rests with GPUs. Anyways, here we go.
I just swapped out my FX-55 for a new x2 4400+. I want to overclock it because doing this swap I lost 600MHz (I just increased the multiplier on the 55 to 14 to get 2.8GHz and stock the 4400+ is at 2.2Ghz, so big difference).
I saw the results I got from 3dMark06, while my CPU score went up substantially, my graphics scores actually went down, no doubt to the MHz loss and it bottling my 8800GTS. Here were the scores:
Current
8118 3DMark Score
3806 SM 2.0 Score
4013 SM 3.0 Score
1656 CPU Score
Old Fx-55
7274 3DMark Score
4064 SM 2.0 Score
4167 SM 3.0 Score
1094 CPU Score
In the clocking guide stickied at the top http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=1497607&enterthread=y, it says to only do the first step for HTT/FSB if your motherboard has locks. Then says that Sata 1 and 2 are not locked on some, use 3 and 4.
I'm running my RAID not on the Silicon controller but the other one (with the black ports on the mobo) in slots 1 and 2. Do I need to worry about this and have to switch them? And if so, will I have any problems or have to reconfigure anything? I think I have it set so that everything is disabled with RAID on the silicon and only ports 1 and 2 are on. Basically, I don't want to have to reformat or anything like that since I don't have all my things down here at school.
Besides that whole problem, any other advice? Basically, here's the gist of what I know so far.
Max HTT/FSB Step - Assuming I have no problems with this whole motherboard lock thing, seems easy. Take down the CPU multiplier, take the memory speed down to 100MHz and leave timings as is. Keep bumping till lockup or error, back down 5% and that's my max FSB.
max Chip - Not sure about the voltage thing. I think according to CPU-Z my CPU is getting around 1.35-1.36. Seems that I may have to bump up the voltage to get to my goal (at the bottom of this post) Rest seems easy. Again, take memory out of equation by bringing down to 100 MHz. Keep bumping FSB till fail Prime95, then back off 5% and theres the max CPU speed at that multiplier (in my case, 11 is max for 4400+) Except how do I test Prime at 95%? (I'm not sure what that means, I usually either run the torture test or the benchmark and that's all.)
Max memory - This one I'm not sure about at all, but I understand that I will be messing with the timings to be able to raise the speed from 200 MHz.
Oh, I guess one last thing. I tested with Prime on both cores and the highest temp I ever hit was 46-47 degrees C. While idleing, the temp was at 32 degrees C. Just thought I'd put this here in case it matters. Compared to my old FX-55 which was around 38 Idle and up to 53-55 full load, this chip runs WAY cooler and I love that.
Also, I kept reading about TCCD memory and have a somewhat better idea, but still no idea what it actually is. But on the list found at http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/11329, I think I may have TCCD memory because under confirmed Samsung TCCD, is listed Corsair PC3200XL. Does this mean I will be able to overclock higher than usual?
Lastly, I have seen that quite a few people have setups very similar to mine. What can I expect to get out of my CPU? My goal is to hopefully get to 2.6 GHz so I will have the same speed as my old CPU and gain back the performance loss in going from the FX-55 to this X2 4400+.
Sorry for all these questions, I feel like a noob posting them up since they probably seem like simple ones to the rest of you guys. Thanks ahead of time though for your time and help!
Edit - Shoot I forgot to mention. I was just checking to see if my performance is where it's supposed to be at stock before I start OC'ing. In Super Pi, I got 39 seconds flat verfied with the checksum on the 1M test. Does that correlate with a stock X2 4400+?
That said, I hope to get some help here because I posted on AnAndTech and haven't really gotten much help.
Here is my system information that I believe is critical so you know what I have exactly.
CPU: AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+
Motherboard: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
Bios: 1011
Graphics Card: XFX GeForce 8800 GTS OC'ed (630 core/970 mem)
Memory: 4x Corsair CMX512-3200XLPRO at 2-2-2-5
Hard Drive: 2x Western Digital 74GB Raptors in RAID 0
Power Supply: PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 510
Operating System: Windows XP Pro SP2
CPU Cooling: Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu LED w/ Artic Silver 5
GPU Cooling: Stock XFX Cooling
Memory Cooling: Stock Corsair Heatsinks
Case Cooling: Custom Lian-Li PC-61 done by FrozenCPU - 2 80mm Panaflo front intake, 1 120mm Panaflo side intake, 1 80mm Panaflo blowhole exhaust, 1 80mm Panaflow rear exhaust
Temperatures
CPU - Idle: 32-33
CPU - Load: 45-47
Case: 37-39
Speeds
CPU
Stock: 2.2 GHz
Memory - Timings
Stock: 2-2-2-5
Graphics Card - Core
Stock: 500 MHz
Overclocked: 630 MHz
Graphics Card - Memory
Stock: 800 MHz
Overclocked: 970 MHz
I'll just post what I put up on AnAndTech since I don't want to retype. Sorry ahead of time for some of the questions, as I am noob when it comes to overclocking the CPU and memory. My knowledge rests with GPUs.
Anyways, here we go.I just swapped out my FX-55 for a new x2 4400+. I want to overclock it because doing this swap I lost 600MHz (I just increased the multiplier on the 55 to 14 to get 2.8GHz and stock the 4400+ is at 2.2Ghz, so big difference).
I saw the results I got from 3dMark06, while my CPU score went up substantially, my graphics scores actually went down, no doubt to the MHz loss and it bottling my 8800GTS. Here were the scores:
Current
8118 3DMark Score
3806 SM 2.0 Score
4013 SM 3.0 Score
1656 CPU Score
Old Fx-55
7274 3DMark Score
4064 SM 2.0 Score
4167 SM 3.0 Score
1094 CPU Score
In the clocking guide stickied at the top http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=1497607&enterthread=y, it says to only do the first step for HTT/FSB if your motherboard has locks. Then says that Sata 1 and 2 are not locked on some, use 3 and 4.
I'm running my RAID not on the Silicon controller but the other one (with the black ports on the mobo) in slots 1 and 2. Do I need to worry about this and have to switch them? And if so, will I have any problems or have to reconfigure anything? I think I have it set so that everything is disabled with RAID on the silicon and only ports 1 and 2 are on. Basically, I don't want to have to reformat or anything like that since I don't have all my things down here at school.
Besides that whole problem, any other advice? Basically, here's the gist of what I know so far.
Max HTT/FSB Step - Assuming I have no problems with this whole motherboard lock thing, seems easy. Take down the CPU multiplier, take the memory speed down to 100MHz and leave timings as is. Keep bumping till lockup or error, back down 5% and that's my max FSB.
max Chip - Not sure about the voltage thing. I think according to CPU-Z my CPU is getting around 1.35-1.36. Seems that I may have to bump up the voltage to get to my goal (at the bottom of this post) Rest seems easy. Again, take memory out of equation by bringing down to 100 MHz. Keep bumping FSB till fail Prime95, then back off 5% and theres the max CPU speed at that multiplier (in my case, 11 is max for 4400+) Except how do I test Prime at 95%? (I'm not sure what that means, I usually either run the torture test or the benchmark and that's all.)
Max memory - This one I'm not sure about at all, but I understand that I will be messing with the timings to be able to raise the speed from 200 MHz.
Oh, I guess one last thing. I tested with Prime on both cores and the highest temp I ever hit was 46-47 degrees C. While idleing, the temp was at 32 degrees C. Just thought I'd put this here in case it matters. Compared to my old FX-55 which was around 38 Idle and up to 53-55 full load, this chip runs WAY cooler and I love that.
Also, I kept reading about TCCD memory and have a somewhat better idea, but still no idea what it actually is. But on the list found at http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/11329, I think I may have TCCD memory because under confirmed Samsung TCCD, is listed Corsair PC3200XL. Does this mean I will be able to overclock higher than usual?
Lastly, I have seen that quite a few people have setups very similar to mine. What can I expect to get out of my CPU? My goal is to hopefully get to 2.6 GHz so I will have the same speed as my old CPU and gain back the performance loss in going from the FX-55 to this X2 4400+.
Sorry for all these questions, I feel like a noob posting them up since they probably seem like simple ones to the rest of you guys. Thanks ahead of time though for your time and help!
Edit - Shoot I forgot to mention. I was just checking to see if my performance is where it's supposed to be at stock before I start OC'ing. In Super Pi, I got 39 seconds flat verfied with the checksum on the 1M test. Does that correlate with a stock X2 4400+?