new computer power problem

According to Asus' qualified memory list the only OC Z ram supported is OCZ 28001024EBDCPE-K

Your said yours was OCZ 28001024ELDCGE-K. I don't know if there's much difrerence between the two, but that may be your problem now Unsupported memroy.

Then again, they could be the same thing just different packaging

Ryan
 
thats pretty crappy if thats the only thing from keeping me going, ahh. Looked at bestbuy and circuit city and they dont even really carry ddr2 it looks like, at least I couldnt really find any online. I cant even find that model at ZZF or Newegg, I looked in the user manual of my mobo and I dont even see ocz as a supported vendor I see these for ddr2 800: Kingston, infineon, hynix, micron, A-DATA with some model numbers, OCZ isnt even listed in the ddr2-667 list. Wish they would tell you what vendors they supported before you purchase the mobo. Grr, so it sounds like im going to have to RMA my ram and then try and order more?
Edit: never mind my edit..
 
im calling asus tech and am on the phone right now, hopefully I can get something worked out.
 
sounds like it might be a motherboard problem, tech guy didnt seem like he knew much, said well im not sure if the bios is up to date or not.. I wasl ike well it just came out like a week or two ago and he was like oh ok. I have no idea, im completly at a loss here, just did a rma request for the mobo, spose i will start there.
 
well keep us informed on how it works out for you. It still may be a power issue. If PSU never sends a power good signal to the motherboard it won't boot either. Sorry I couldn't help you out that much.


Ryan
 
gonna call asus again tomorrow or monday and maybe ill get someone that knows what they are talking about before I RMA I guess.
 
Just found a post on asus tech forums that some guy had the same problem on a different mobo and that he put in different ram and it worked fine, no display but power was fine. looks like ill rma the ram instead and just overnight some here.
 
According to this review, they couldn't get any DDR2-800 modules to post. The ones they finally did get to boot were Kingston Valueram DDR2-667s. Apparently it's a problem with the nForce 590 chipset, Don't see why though memory controller is integrated into A64. Hope that helps.

Ryan
 
I have the nforce 570 version, so I wonder if it is the same problem? Kinda annoying considering it says the standard for the board is ddr2 800. Wish I had a store that actually sold ddr2, spose ill run out to bestbuy/ circuit just incase tomorrow buy/return if they have any.
 
hehe I figured you knew, thought I posted it on my first post but I might not have.
 
man do I feel like an idiot now,


just looked at the QVL for the RIGHT board this time. and OCZ isn't listed as either DDR2 667 or 800. Maybe their timings are too tight for the 570. got any friends with a P-D/4 system from Dell/Gateway that has DDR 667? maybe you could borrow a stick from them and test your board before you spend even more money. By the way do you a buzzer attached to the speaker header? Usually RAM problems wiill give some kind of beep code.
 
no buzzer or anything, my pc case didnt come with a speaker. I was thinking of running down to bestbuy and buying some ddr2 667, but they only have k-byte according to the online website. Just called my local circuitcity and they said they have ddr2 667 kingston so I might go out and buy a stick just to give it a try.
 
ok got an update... turned my speakers up to full volume and put my ear to the speaker and here is what I heard: 1 long beep followed by two short beeps, no idea what this means yet, gonna research it / look it up in the manual but lemmie know if you find anything first.
 
just found this online.. 1 long 2 short beeps Reseat the video board - replace if board is determined to be faulty. hmm.. the fan is spinning fine but /shrug I dunno
 
a spinning fan just means that there's power to the card.

have any old PCI video cards?

make sure the videocard and ram are seated properly in the slot. I think PCIe x16 slots have a retension mechanism that locks the card in place when it's fully inserted, if so make sure it's locked. etc
 
going to try out a friends pcie card tomorrow and then bring my card over also see if im doing sometime wrong for some reason to try and rule every thing out.
 
Sounds like a plan then. let me know how it works out.


did you motherboard come with a manual on CD-ROM by any chance? I can't get one from Asus web site. I you do can you email it to me?
 
Will check the cd rom here in a little bit, I talked to BFG tech support and they gave me a RMA number.. said an average of 4 days processing time once the card had been sent in.. so like minimum 10 days that blows. Anyone know about zip zoom fly's RMA process? I was just thinking about selecting refund and buying another card and overnighting it here for tomorrow/tuesday and then probably getting my refund a week or two later. Anyone know if this would work?

BFG had no option like that, they said only send in the card, nothing it came with, we will try to repair it, so as of right now ZZF looks like a better option to me.

no user manual on the disc, only raid manuals.
 
well I thought it was the video card now im not so sure... I just tried a for sure 100% working pci video card and I got the same beeps, going to get a friend to try my card in his computer tomorrow, if it works then it must be the motherboard.
 
Something very interesting, I've been posting at the asus tech board trying to get help, someone with the exact same motherboard and ram as me said they had the same problem of no posting - black screen and they switched to crosair ram which was on the supported list and it posted fine. I am getting a friend to check out my video card today just incase, but I think ill run to a local store and try to pick up a stick of supported ram. On the plus side, friend said if it is my ram then he will buy it off me so no RMA process to go through.
 
that's cool. hope it all works out. that's what I've figured the fix would be since I mentioned it t. Hope you get iti working.

Ryan
 
Well my friend just got back and my video card works perfect... thats some good news I guess, going to run to the store in a couple hours after work and find some of this "special" ram and give that a shot, hopefully its not the motherboard. Will have an update later tonight.
 
well holy hell, I just bought like the cheapest piece of crap ram from circuit city some kingston value ram pc4200 and it booted right up. Going to install windows / my programs and order my new ram tonight with some good stuff then return this ram tomorrow or the next day =/ Really blows that the OCZ doesnt work but at least my new computer is working!
 
one last update really.. my computer still does that weird turn on.. turn off after about 5 seconds thing, so I called asus tech and he said a grounding error but I told him its fine if I reset the cmos so it probably wasnt a grounding thing and he agreed. He gave me a number to call tomorrow during business hours and they are going to send me a brand new bios chip! woo =/ I just looked at my bios chip and it has a big blue x marked through it with a permanent marker.. so maybe they gave me a bad one to begin with.

Something else interesting... I have a temp monitoring program running that came with my motherboard, I Can see MB temp CPU temp and what not.. on the plus I have yet to see the cpu temp go over 41 C... but my power supply fan is apparently running at 784 rpm ? ive seen it jump around between 782-785 and thats it. Should I unplug it from the motherboard, or is there some way I can speed it up? I dont think its overheating at all but the program is giving me a warning saying it should be spinning faster. I have the P180 case so I have a fan blowing directly on it, but it does sorta make me nervous that its spinning so slow. Going to let my computer run all night tonight to see if anything happens.. leaving the speakers up a bit loud just incase another overheating / fan spinning thing pops up.
 
Just an idea, but maybe the fan in the PSU is seizing up and drawing too much power causing the PSU to overheat and turn itself off. A CMOS reset takes a few seconds to do. So in that time the PSU can cool off and give the fan enough power to start up. Try this. next time it starts doing it again -- leave the system off for about five minutes. Then try to turn it back on to see if it'll stay on. Like I said just an idea.

I had an old K6-2 450 system that had a 250w PSU that the fan locked up in. I walked into my room and it was about 10 degrees wamer and my computer just kept reseting itself every second or so. I got up closer to the case and could smell heat (you know that smell when something is getting hot but not quite melting). When I reached back to flip the PSU switch I burned the shit out of my fingers. So I know first hand an overheating PSU will do funy things. Today's PSU are designed to protect themselve from overheating (well good ones are). So maybe that's what your problem may be.

If you comfortable with the insides of a PSU you might try taking a plastic sticklike object and putting it into the fan griil on the PSU and turning the blades. A good fan will give you at most a barely noticeable resistance to the push. But if it feels like drawing a stick through mud then the fan is definately bad. Make sure that the PSU is UNPLUGGED first before going and poking things inside, and only push the object in just far enough to engage the fan blades, no further.

Ryan
 
WIll give this a try tonight once I get off work, I dont think its over heating tho because all I do is switch it off, pop out the battery wait 5-10 seconds pop it back in switch it on and it powers on fine..and is still cool to the touch so maybe 30 seconds 45 at the most. I will also see what happens if I unplug the psu fan monitor from the motherboard. But if none of that works then I will try and move the fan blades.. I gotta take part of my case apart to get the psu out so thats the only long part.
 
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