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Jcdenton69

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I recently built myself a new computer, and im having some issues. Whenever I game everything runs fine for 30 minutes to 1 hour, then more and more the game starts to stutter and lag as time goes on. Eventually the PC locks up and i get looping audio and im forced to reboot.

Sometimes when I reboot, the PC will power on, will run for about 5 - 6 seconds, wont post or anything, and then shuts its self off for maybe 5 seconds and then starts its self up again. Then it sits at the Motherboard Logo Screen for up to 5 minutes, then everything works fine for a little while, then it goes to load windows and that takes about 3 - 5 minutes. after waiting up to 10 minutes for the PC to boot, ill get into Windows and my E: drive (500GB Seagate) will not show up, so im forced to power down, open my case up, unplug and then reconnect my hard drive, then start the PC back up and it works fine until the next time I decide to game and this whole cycle starts all over again.

I was originally planning on using an Asus Maximus Formula with this build, but I was having similar stability issues so I returned it in favor of the DFI BloodIron im using now. I am running my processor overclocked, but it was still crashing before the overclock. Processor is 10.5 hours orthos stable, memory is error free after about 6 hours worth of memtest passes. I have been monitoring temps with Everest, and everything looks normal, CPU cores don't go above 45C under load, GPU doesn't go above 60C.

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another thing I forgot to add, I opened up my case while gaming, and I placed my hand on the PSU, and it was very warm, almost hot to the touch, but when I put my hand behind the PSU to try to feel the temperature of the air coming out of it, the air wasn't hot at all.
 
PSU fans blow cool air into the PSU. My vote would go toward your CPU overheating. Make sure all the pins on your CPU are snug.
 
Sounds like a bad overclock. Try to run Orthos blend for at least 8 hours and see if that passes. Another option is OCCT CPU&RAM or just the RAM test. Memtest is useful in finding faulty RAM, but it is not the tool to use in finding whether or not your RAM is being run too fast or too tight.
 
mitchhamlin said:
PSU fans blow cool air into the PSU. My vote would go toward your CPU overheating. Make sure all the pins on your CPU are snug.
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thanks, ill take a look at that next time I get a chance.

Markyip1 said:
Sounds like a bad overclock. Try to run Orthos blend for at least 8 hours and see if that passes. Another option is OCCT CPU&RAM or just the RAM test. Memtest is useful in finding faulty RAM, but it is not the tool to use in finding whether or not your RAM is being run too fast or too tight.
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I did Orthos blend for 10.5 hours and had no problems, downloading OCCT and ill run that later tonight.

thanks.
 
This could quite easily be a PSU heat problem or a dying PSU.
As the PSU gets hotter, its maximum output drops and the voltage rails get noisier too so thats a double whammy.

What is different is the air coming out of the back isnt warm while the PSU case is hot.
That suggests air cannot flow out of the back for some reason.
Perhaps your case has negative air pressure strong enough to counter the PSU fan?

If you leave the side off your case, does the problem still occur?
Can you see any reason why air cannot come out of the back of the PSU?
 
Nenu said:
This could quite easily be a PSU heat problem or a dying PSU.
As the PSU gets hotter, its maximum output drops and the voltage rails get noisier too so thats a double whammy.

What is different is the air coming out of the back isnt warm while the PSU case is hot.
That suggests air cannot flow out of the back for some reason.
Perhaps your case has negative air pressure strong enough to counter the PSU fan?

If you leave the side off your case, does the problem still occur?
Can you see any reason why air cannot come out of the back of the PSU?
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using a CM690 case, PSU is at the bottom of the case, sucks air from outside of the bottom of the case and blows it out the back. the grill at the bottom could be restricting airflow?

 
Yes, I would cut that out, its highly likely that is the cause.
I cut out all my case fan holes as the fans run quieter and pump more air.
 
Nenu said:
Yes, I would cut that out, its highly likely that is the cause.
I cut out all my case fan holes as the fans run quieter and pump more air.
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alright, well time to take out the dremel and get to work. I have some new hardware on the way as well, a video card and fan controller, ill make sure to update this thread when everything is done and tell you if it worked.
 
alright, well i cut out the bottom and put the PSU back in, and reseated the heatsink to make sure it was making good contact, will update within 24 hours and let you all know if this solved the problem.
 
sorry, have been pretty busy so i didn't get to testing it when i wanted, but i just got around to it earlier today and it still crashed :(

so i replaced the Corsair PSU with a spare Mushkin 650W i had laying around, and that didn't fix it either, so that rules out the PSU. next up, the videocard, i took out my G80 GTS and threw in my new G92 GTS and so far it hasnt crashed yet, but it still stutters a lot the more and more i play. ill update again in a couple of days.
 
Jcdenton69 said:
next up, the videocard, i took out my G80 GTS and threw in my new G92 GTS and so far it hasnt crashed yet, but it still stutters a lot the more and more i play. ill update again in a couple of days.
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Any chance on trying a different motherboard? Maybe the PCI-e slots are bad?
 
I doubt this is the problem but have you checked the caps on your motherboard? Bad/poor leaking or bulgy capacitors can also produce the same symptoms
 
AndonSage said:
Any chance on trying a different motherboard? Maybe the PCI-e slots are bad?
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yeah, i have a 680i laying around i could test this out on.

WGSquallx2002 said:
I doubt this is the problem but have you checked the caps on your motherboard? Bad/poor leaking or bulgy capacitors can also produce the same symptoms
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i had the motherboard out of the case and looked it over just the other day, i didn't notice anything out of the ordinary.
 
Alright, first off, sorry for the lack of updates. Ive been too busy with other stuff and had to put this on the back burner. I switched out the video card and PSU and my PC has been running fine, had 0 lockups for a couple of weeks, moved the G80GTS and HX 620w PSU into an old build w/ an E6420, 680i motherboard and 2GB of OCZ memory and after a day of light work such as playing WoW and messing about with spreadsheets, it decided to lock up on me. so that narrows it down to the video card of PSU. Unfortunately my G92 GTS is not available for testing right now as I sent it away to step up to a 9800GTX, so I will have to wait upwards of a week or two to get another video card to test determine if its the 8800GTS or the HX620 that is causing these problems.
 
prime95 it for 8 hrs. if thats stable, memtest it again. if that fails, reseat your cpu and your hsf. make sure that ooey gooey ooze which is the life blood of your box is applied properly. that thermal paste application can make all the difference. your temps can explode in a second while you're not watching when services randomly decide to start running in the background while you are gaming.

also, does it ever lock up when you aren't gaming?

what are the ambient temps in your room typically?

have you tried the JIF and/or SKIPPY method. only works with extra chunky. google it, sounds complicated i know, but its a simple process of injecting your pci-e slots with the right amount of electro-conductive protein gel. peter pan doesnt work. its gotta be JIF or Skippy.

let us know whats really good on the real homes. eh, couple other last ideas -
are you absolutely positively sure that you dont have any apps running that have a memory leak?
how many of your pci slots are in use? IRQL stuff can cause issues, ussuallY BSOD issues, but still.

i tried calling dell while i was typing this up, they suggested something which im not sure you have attempted. have you tried restarted your computer?
 
both PCs ive had the video card/PSU in have been P95/Orthos tested for well over 8 hours, and memtest has run for several hours on both without errors. CPUs have been reseated several times, RAM has been seated and reseated several times, heatsinks (both aftermarket) have been reseated and double, even triple checked to make sure the thermal paste is applied properly. Room temp can be anywhere from 24C - 27C.

Everest is always open and in constantly alt tabbing out of programs to check temps, and very rarely does my CPU get above 45C on either processor, GPU Temps are always safe, they were about 60C under load in my other case, and can hit ~65C in this new case. no other PCI cards plugged in, and both of them have been crashing on relatively new windows installs, and i am 100% sure there are no memory leaks. also, it only crashes while gaming, never just idle on desktop, stress testing, or doing mundane work w/ OpenOffice.
 
which OS are you running? bios/firmware version compared to newest release?
 
OS is XP Home, both motherboards the card and PSU were tested on had the most up to date BIOS.
 
as i was going to sleep last night, i happened to think about your issue a bit more and the only thing that came to mind was that it was your motherboard. your mobo has to be F'd. i know that doesnt really help, but its the only thing that makes any sense to me. just a bad mobo.

how long did it take before you started having issues?
 
started having issues as soon as the build was complete and i started gaming on it. but im 99% sure it isnt the motherboard, because i moved the video card and PSU off of the DFI BloodIron build and on to an EVGA 680i build, and now that build is crashing, where as the DFI Build is stable w/ its new PSU and video card.
 
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