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New Cisco Certification - CCENT

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"On June 25, 2007, Cisco announced the addition of a new entry-level certification, Cisco Certified Entry Network Technician (CCENT) to the Career Certifications program. Cisco also introduced significant enhancements to the popular CCNA certification.

CCENT presents a new point of entry for those just beginning to build a career in networking. As an optional stepping stone to CCNA, CCENT validates the skills required to successfully install and verify basic networks—a requirement for most entry-level network support positions."

"The CCENT learning path includes:
A required exam: ICND1 640-822
A recommended course: Interconnecting Cisco Networking Devices, Part 1"

Yay for those of you that haven't been able to pass both tests required to get your CCNA. Now just pass ICND and you've got a certification!
 
WesM63 said:
Yay for those of you that haven't been able to pass both tests required to get your CCNA. Now just pass ICND and you've got a certification!
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Which is precisely what technical managers involved in the hiring process may be seeing.
 
I thought the CCNA was ridiculous to begin with, everyone and they're brother has one.
 
i plan on getting a CCNA, maybe go up to CCNP. There's a few more up from a CCNP, i think CCIE? or something. i imagine those exams are brutal. CCNA isnt a bad thing to have, lots of companies like to see that, but i dont see why they need to release another exam.
 
I agree with laneo, you've got to start somewhere I was planning on taking the CCNA sometime over this next year and just studying for it has taught me a lot. However, the CCENT cert seems pretty useless on its own.
 
I think that is where Cisco is going with this one. The CCNA was/is supposed to be a though certification to get for entry level networking people. Lately it seems its been to easy, hence my comment about everyone having one. The CCENT gives another level between knowing nothing and knowing something. (i.e putting the CCNA back at the level it should be)

I wouldn't discourage people from getting a CCNA as it still is a great certification to have. (In my case, I have to have it to get my CCVP.)
 
I think this is better than nothing, at least rasies a flag on your resume.
 
To further Wes' point...

The CCNA 640-801, 640-821 and the 640-811 all expire in November of 2007. If you are in an Academy currently, either finish your exams soon or risk taking an updated exam.

The CCNP curriculum will also be changing as well. The new curriculum's will be available beginning in July/August.

I've passed 821 and am currently enrolled in CCNA 3/4 right now. My class ends in the beginning of October. My instructor showed me the email from Cisco informing him of the changes.

His advice was if you are just starting CCNA training, you might want to wait a semester or two to allow your training center to catch up to the changes. Luckly, I'm doing my training at the regional training center so they have to be ready for the changes as soon as they take effect.
 
Jay,
Yes, they are making changes to the CCNA as well. Here is the full email.

"On June 25, 2007, Cisco announced the addition of a new entry-level certification, Cisco Certified Entry Network Technician (CCENT) to the Career Certifications program. Cisco also introduced significant enhancements to the popular CCNA certification.

CCENT presents a new point of entry for those just beginning to build a career in networking. As an optional stepping stone to CCNA, CCENT validates the skills required to successfully install and verify basic networks—a requirement for most entry-level network support positions. At the same time, Cisco’s foundational CCNA curricula has been revised to include a greater breadth of networking topics and more focus on performance-based skills to differentiate Cisco-certified applicants in the IT job market. The CCNA curricula will be available worldwide on July 26, 2007 and exams will be released on August 1, 2007. Both curricula and exams will be initially released in English . Versions in simplified Chinese, Japanese, and Spanish will also be made available in December 2007. Additional languages will be announced as translation plans are finalized.

The CCENT learning path includes:
A required exam: ICND1 640-822
A recommended course: Interconnecting Cisco Networking Devices, Part 1

The CCNA learning path includes:
Required exams: ICND1 640-822 and ICND2 640-816, or CCNA 640-802 composite exam
Recommended courses: Interconnecting Cisco Networking Devices, Part 1 and Interconnecting Cisco Networking Devices, Part 2"
 
So there are three Exams for CCNA, i mean you can break it down to three exams? Can some on guide me i am doing CCNA.

What part Exam1 covers? Exam2 covers what? and Exam 3 covers?

thanks.
 
You have two options to complete CCNA.

1 test (640-802)

or

2 tests (640-822 & 640-816)

These are the new test though....not the current.

Exam 1 covers OSI real simple routing, cabling, etc.
Exam 2 covers routing, switching, vlans, etc.
 
If taking the two-test path toward CCNA, will you then technically hold two certs, being CCENT and CCNA?

I realize CCENT wouldn't be of much use once you have CCNA, but I'd like to know the technicality.
 
WesM63 said:
Technically, yes. I don't know how else to put it.
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I only said the last part to prevent "smart" people from telling me the difference between the two and bashing me for asking or asking me why I would want both. ;)
 
Interesting. So it might be good for career changers like me. I just finished CCNA1 and will start CCNA2 in a week or so. I'm not sure when I'd be ready for it. After CCAN2 maybe?
 
JayAre said:
To further Wes' point...


The CCNP curriculum will also be changing as well. The new curriculum's will be available beginning in July/August.
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The CCNP curriculum just changed last year. Are you saying it is changing again?
 
s0ldier93 said:
Interesting. So it might be good for career changers like me. I just finished CCNA1 and will start CCNA2 in a week or so. I'm not sure when I'd be ready for it. After CCAN2 maybe?
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Well ...no...in your case...you're kind of screwed. The curriculum that you'll take for
CCNA 3 and CCNA 4 will differ from the curriculum of 1/2. That is unless you can finish 3 and 4 before November.

Boscoh said:
The CCNP curriculum just changed last year. Are you saying it is changing again?
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No, those parts will stay the same. CCNA is four tests. It was BSCI and something else that changed last year I believe. So the other two that didn't change last year will now change.
 
JayAre said:
No, those parts will stay the same. CCNA is four tests. It was BSCI and something else that changed last year I believe. So the other two that didn't change last year will now change.
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Maybe a typo on your part, but CCNA is one or two tests (your choice) - not four. CCNP is three (using the BSCI/BCMSN Composite) or four tests and includes BSCI, BCMSN, ONT, and ISCW.

All the CCNP tests changed last year. The BSCI and BCMSN got new versions, and BCRAN and CIT were retired and relaced with ISCW and ONT respectively. I took all of these new tests for my CCNP last year, hence my question as to whether they're updating it again or not.
 
Wow. It's like getting your associates as a bonus when getting your Bachelors Degree. The Associates is just useful to get a job while finishing the Bachelors requirement.
 
Boscoh said:
Maybe a typo on your part, but CCNA is one or two tests (your choice) - not four. CCNP is three (using the BSCI/BCMSN Composite) or four tests and includes BSCI, BCMSN, ONT, and ISCW.

All the CCNP tests changed last year. The BSCI and BCMSN got new versions, and BCRAN and CIT were retired and relaced with ISCW and ONT respectively. I took all of these new tests for my CCNP last year, hence my question as to whether they're updating it again or not.
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I stand corrected....CCNP not CCNA....it was past my bedtime. My bad.
 
JayAre said:
I stand corrected....CCNP not CCNA....it was past my bedtime. My bad.
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Its ok, we forgive you. Just don't do it again!

To be honest, the new cert is cool, but i don't know how long it will take people before they recognize it. Even most have a hard time recognizing the CCDA.
 
My instructor assures me that By the time I'm done (next March), I will be ready for the new CCNA. I'm told that the remainder of the classes will be modified to compensate for the differences.
 
Update-

My teacher now assures me that because I have already started the current CCNA(1-4) track, I will be eligible for the old (current) exam when I done with the courses next March. Can anyone either verify or rip this appart?
 
WesM63-

I see and agree with you. I'd like to think my instructor has more knowledge on the subject than me. I'm hoping I misunderstood what she meant. Otherwise I have an entirely different problem. I'll post what a figure out.
 
So I took CCNA sections 1 and 2 in high school. Does this mean I can take the test over the first two now, and get a certification, and then take the test for sections 3 and 4 at another time? Does anyone know the approximate cost of the test?
 
jeffmoss26 said:
So I took CCNA sections 1 and 2 in high school. Does this mean I can take the test over the first two now, and get a certification, and then take the test for sections 3 and 4 at another time? Does anyone know the approximate cost of the test?
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Well maybe some can help answer this question better than I, as I do not know what CCNA sections 1/2 covers in the CCNA Academy. If it is INTRO then no, it will not help you pass the CCENT test. The CCENT test covers ICND (Interconnecting Cisco Network Devices).


The exam is not available yet to take, however, if it is priced like the current ICND exam, it will be $100.
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Quick question: If I purchased the CCNA book package (INTRO & ICND), if I went ahead and studied the ICND part this would be the new CCENT test would it not? I would then need to wait for training materials for the ICND2 test to study for my CCNA?
 
Awesome, glad to see Cisco is still keeping up with things and adding more new stuff to their Certs.
 
liquidtrance123 said:
Quick question: If I purchased the CCNA book package (INTRO & ICND), if I went ahead and studied the ICND part this would be the new CCENT test would it not? I would then need to wait for training materials for the ICND2 test to study for my CCNA?
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That should work, however, the current ICND is a different test number than ICND1 is. There may be differences between the current ICND and the new ICND1 (test wise).
 
My instructors keep assuring the class that we (who have started the classes that will end after the change) will be grandfathered into the old exam. So for me, that will be next March or April. This is a change from the changing curriculum story I got. I am a bit weary.
 
s0ldier93 said:
My instructors keep assuring the class that we (who have started the classes that will end after the change) will be grandfathered into the old exam. So for me, that will be next March or April. This is a change from the changing curriculum story I got. I am a bit weary.
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I'd be real weary. You're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.
 
JayAre said:
Well ...no...in your case...you're kind of screwed. The curriculum that you'll take for
CCNA 3 and CCNA 4 will differ from the curriculum of 1/2. That is unless you can finish 3 and 4 before November.


No, those parts will stay the same. CCNA is four tests. It was BSCI and something else that changed last year I believe. So the other two that didn't change last year will now change.
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This just in. After allot of talk with my CCNA1 through 4 instructor, it has been confirmed by Cisco that those of us enrolled in the Cisco Academy under the old curiculum are authorized to take the 801, or 821 and 811. There is an authorization letter in our accounts for the old exams.
 
From what I have heard, Cisco was getting really annoyed at all of the people getting their CCNA and stopping with out going for any of the more advanced certs. They decided that if you just want an entry level cert with out desiring to go further, you can do the CCENT.

They have also made the CCNA much more broad, encompassing wireless and a lot more switching topics, with the idea that if you get your CCNA you will be able to handle at a basic level just about anything.

That said, I just finished my CCNP, and very glad that I continued on. :)
 
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