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lodingi

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hi. i just upgraded from a 9800pro agp to a 7600gt pci-e. i noticed that the new card didn't improve performance on older games. is this usually the case. if so, why? thanks for the info.
 
I guess they would be about the same level. When i upgraded from a ti4200 to a 5700u, my games actually ran *slower*.
 
well, it might be not getting better performance because you need a pci-e slot for pci-e cards ;)

...just kidding.

In any case, I don't see why it would improve performance if it's an older game, unless you mean in terms of FPS, which may have to do with vsync being on.
 
i do mean fps. even when i disable v-sync the frames are equal between the 9800pro & the 7600gt. now benchmark scores are much better with the 7600gt but i don't give a hoot about benchies. gaming is my concern.
 
WHAT GAME?

What the hell, you think we can read your mind or something? If you want context-specific help, you gotta give us context.

For all you know it could be locked to a maximum framerate (like Counterstrike, or Doom 3), but you'll never know.
 
Mind showing us some simple benchies? Just run fraps, and then FarCry, then go to a specific place and give us the framerate.

What you need to understand when upgrading your video card. You're usually into it more for the featureset than power. I have a friend that actually wanted to borrow my games coz he honestly thought his new PCIE x700 was more powerful than my clunky AGP 5900xt :rolleyes:



BTW, your 9800pro is a highend in its time, so it's no surprise that it can still keep up with the newer medium ends. You got what you paid for eh? :D
 
lopoetve said:
CPU limited, most likely .
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Either that or the software engine is maxed out. Just because you have a super card, doesn't mean that the software can render the images any faster.. Games like Ghost Recon will see the same frames (900 max I think?) because of the engine. Better engines will allow even lower end cards to render images faster.

yea, it could be cpu limited too. :)
 
i loved directx8 and the old nvidia ti series cards.
 
Just crank the settings, although I have seen some wierd stuff happen in games with super fast frame rates, like in empire earth your screen moves superfast, but anyways I don't care about framerate as long as it's 50+ all the time then I'm happy. (Can live with 20 though)
 
defaultluser said:
WHAT GAME?

What the hell, you think we can read your mind or something? If you want context-specific help, you gotta give us context.

For all you know it could be locked to a maximum framerate (like Counterstrike, or Doom 3), but you'll never know.
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i am sorry. didn't mean to annoy you. i will try to be more specific in the future.
 
Sly said:
Mind showing us some simple benchies? Just run fraps, and then FarCry, then go to a specific place and give us the framerate.

What you need to understand when upgrading your video card. You're usually into it more for the featureset than power. I have a friend that actually wanted to borrow my games coz he honestly thought his new PCIE x700 was more powerful than my clunky AGP 5900xt :rolleyes:


BTW, your 9800pro is a highend in its time, so it's no surprise that it can still keep up with the newer medium ends. You got what you paid for eh? :D
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guess so. lol. hey. are you the sly i know?
 
lloose said:
Either that or the software engine is maxed out. Just because you have a super card, doesn't mean that the software can render the images any faster.. Games like Ghost Recon will see the same frames (900 max I think?) because of the engine. Better engines will allow even lower end cards to render images faster.

yea, it could be cpu limited too. :)
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makes sense. i just thought more horsepower = more frames. my bad.
 
lodingi said:
dang. i thought i had a decent cpu. :(
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You're thinking backwards ;).

CPU's can be limited at lower resolutions and graphica details.

Don't ask, I have no idea why.
 
bLaCktIGErs91 said:
You're thinking backwards ;).

CPU's can be limited at lower resolutions and graphica details.

Don't ask, I have no idea why.
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When running CPU test people run at 800x600 all eyecandy IQ off, so that the CPU is doing the brunt of the work.
You then increase the resolution to see where the CPU starts to "choke".
If yuo want to test GFX preformance, you scale the res and IQ high, so that you are putting the brunt of the work on the GPU insteead of the CPU.

So far the only never game that is not GPU limited is Oblivion, it taxes the CPU very hard.
But other games like Quake4 is GPU limited.

Terra...
 
lodingi said:
guess so. lol. hey. are you the sly i know?
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Doubt it. It's a pretty common name so i usually only use it on lans and action games. If you've met a 'Hajile' online tho, then that's probably me :p

noypi ka?
 
Terra said:
When running CPU test people run at 800x600 all eyecandy IQ off, so that the CPU is doing the brunt of the work.
You then increase the resolution to see where the CPU starts to "choke".
If yuo want to test GFX preformance, you scale the res and IQ high, so that you are putting the brunt of the work on the GPU insteead of the CPU.

So far the only never game that is not GPU limited is Oblivion, it taxes the CPU very hard.
But other games like Quake4 is GPU limited.

Terra...
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Oblivion is still gpu limited at high resolutions with details max.
 
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