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New build i know the hdd space is alot but I alreaddy have 1 terabyte and its almost full i back up all my dvd movies onto my pc and i do alot of music recording.I already have a an xfi sound card and an antec p180 case for the pc.
Please no flaming or saying go ati i like nvidia and i like sli not a big fan of ati's crossfire.

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I would suggest changing from MSI for the 7900GT. I've had such amazing experiences all throughout my videocard history from eVGA that I'll suggest them. They're going for ~$236 after rebate on newegg. Also, why not ddr2 800?
 
went with 4 gigs just because i do some music recording dvd encoding and want the memory to help my pc from lagging also with vista coming and supposubly taking 800mb i want lots of extra
 
4gigs of RAM isn't necessary now, plus you'll need XP x64 to even make use of it all. x64 is pretty craptacular, not worth the money you would need to spend on it. Hopefully the 64 bit version of Vista will be better but you'll probably still have some trouble getting some 32 bit apps to work with it.
 
You can get a 400 gb harddrive for way cheaper. 600 $ for that hdd? Why don't you get a 750 gb Hdd for that price? I've seen 500 gb hdd's at 300 $
 
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think a 510W PSU is enough to power 2 graphics cards, 2 dvd burners, and 4 hard drives, but I may be mistaken.
 
That power supply is HUMONGOUS. Get something that's not PC Power and Cooling, I bought their 1KW PSU....

It doesn't fit in my case, they have horrible tech support, it raised my case temp 8C(once I got it to fit, It involved a hacksaw). Also, don't get and Ultra X-Connect as an alternative, the cables are HUGE and dont bend, plus the gerth of the cable ends is unreasonable huge.

For a PSU, I reccomend a 550W Antec NeoHe... Gogogo

EDIT: As for Hard Drives, I would reccomend getting a Seagate HDD of some kind. They blow away the Samsungs because they don't... well, I'll put it this way, every Samsung I've had has died. Just randomly started clicking and whirring and scratching and DIEING. Seagate and WD are the best HDD companies.
 
funcman said:
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think a 510W PSU is enough to power 2 graphics cards, 2 dvd burners, and 4 hard drives, but I may be mistaken.
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The PCP+C 510 is :cool:

Most PSU manufacturers give the maximum theoretical wattage, not sustained. PCP+C gives you the sustained, which means that it really can run at 510 all the time. Additionally, most manufacturers give that wattage assuming an ambient temp of 35c, whereas PCP+C rates at 50c (there's an inverse relationship between heat and performance).
 
Nali said:
That power supply is HUMONGOUS. Get something that's not PC Power and Cooling, I bought their 1KW PSU....

It doesn't fit in my case, they have horrible tech support, it raised my case temp 8C(once I got it to fit, It involved a hacksaw). Also, don't get and Ultra X-Connect as an alternative, the cables are HUGE and dont bend, plus the gerth of the cable ends is unreasonable huge.

For a PSU, I reccomend a 550W Antec NeoHe... Gogogo
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Alright, no offense but don't listen to this guy. The PCP+C 510 is normal length, the 1kw however is much deeper (23 cm). Specs are availabe on PCP+C's website. Besides that, odds are against Nali needing the 1kw, and your build definitey does not.

Secondly, NeoHE and Asus boards have known, unresolved issues. Do not buy an asus board with that psu. stopstopstop.

Finally, Antec psu's are overrated. They are ok, but they're not great. PCP+C psu's are excellent, if not the best.
 
Slartibartfast said:
The PCP+C 510 is :cool:

Most PSU manufacturers give the maximum theoretical wattage, not sustained. PCP+C gives you the sustained, which means that it really can run at 510 all the time. Additionally, most manufacturers give that wattage assuming an ambient temp of 35c, whereas PCP+C rates at 50c (there's an inverse relationship between heat and performance).
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Phix: ...wattage assuming an ambient temp of 25c...

These are PSU's from Taiwan Mainly.

The PCP+C 510 is very warm and doesn't fit in many cases. Antec tests at 45C I think. Their PSU are very good, most are modular, and the cables are A) Pre-wrapped in heat-shrink and mesh, and B) Easily bendable
 
Nali said:
Phix: ...wattage assuming an ambient temp of 25c...

These are PSU's from Taiwan Mainly.

The PCP+C 510 is very warm and doesn't fit in many cases. Antec tests at 45C I think. Their PSU are very good, most are modular, and the cables are A) Pre-wrapped in heat-shrink and mesh, and B) Easily bendable
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Do some reading: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=T51SLI

510W (650W peak) @ 50°C (industrial rated)
2X more actual power than "500W" home PSUs
Heavy-duty caps, inductors, heat sinks, etc.
Premium sag and surge protection (.99 PFC)
Powerful +12VDC output (34A, 38A peak)
Ultra-tight voltage regulation (+VDC@ 1%)
Super-clean output (+VDC ripple @ 0.5%)
New, quieter fan speed control circuit
24-pin M/B and dual PCI-E connnectors
Industry's strongest warranty program (5 yrs)
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funcman said:
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think a 510W PSU is enough to power 2 graphics cards, 2 dvd burners, and 4 hard drives, but I may be mistaken.
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It'll be fine. I think the PC P&C is overkill.
 
Slartibartfast said:
Alright, no offense but don't listen to this guy. The PCP+C 510 is normal length, the 1kw however is much deeper (23 cm). Specs are availabe on PCP+C's website. Besides that, odds are against Nali needing the 1kw, and your build definitey does not.

Secondly, NeoHE and Asus boards have known, unresolved issues. Do not buy an asus board with that psu. stopstopstop.

Finally, Antec psu's are overrated. They are ok, but they're not great. PCP+C psu's are excellent, if not the best.
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PCP+C are overpriced, and I kinda run an Asus system with an Antec NeoHE, with no problems, KthnXbye.
 
Nali said:
PCP+C are overpriced
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Not for what you get

Nali said:
and I kinda run an Asus system with an Antec NeoHE, with no problems, KthnXbye.
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Oh right, I forgot, your experience = everybody's experience :rolleyes:

Either way it's the op's money, and if s/he puts the time into researching this they'll see what I'm talking about.

is this the system you're talking about? Cuz that's not an antec psu. Also, I should have clarified: the NeoHE has issues with AMD mobo's.
 
I just must've not gotten a bad batch or something. PCP+C PSU's are way overpriced and this person does not need a gigantic PSU that not only costs more power to run, but it also heats up your entire case and you will never use all "More then other PSU's" 510W's. Whereas with a NeoHe, they run fine and the one I have lowered my temps by 2C under my last PSU.

Maybe they should change their name to PC Power and Heating...

is this the system you're talking about? Cuz that's not an antec psu. Also, I should have clarified: the NeoHE has issues with AMD mobo's.
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That's my gaming system. The one I speak of is my server system. Current uptime is about 2 months.
 
draws more power from AC Power line to sustain higher wattages :D, also it heats ones case which causes the CPU to run less efficiently and heats up one's room... plus that PSU is WAYYY overkill
 
Nali said:
draws more power from AC Power line to sustain higher wattages :D, also it heats ones case which causes the CPU to run less efficiently and heats up one's room... plus that PSU is WAYYY overkill
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A psu draws from the wall only as much power as it needs. Take system X. Let's say it needs 350 watts to run. Putting an 850 watt psu in there will not cost you any more money than a 450.

Unless...

The 850 is more efficient. Then it will save you money.

And guess what? The PCP+C is more efficient under high load than the antec.

edit: also, there's this thread....

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=970367
 
i had a pc&p 510 sli and it could hold it's own with two 7800gtx and a 4400+ @ 2600


once I got a Enermax Liberty 620 all the problems were gone

never let me down also a plus is the modular cabling unlike the pc&p 510 sli
 
quadnad said:
I would suggest changing from MSI for the 7900GT. I've had such amazing experiences all throughout my videocard history from eVGA that I'll suggest them. They're going for ~$236 after rebate on newegg. Also, why not ddr2 800?
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are you serious dude??

MSI use to be if not was the best gpu manufacturer for nvidia
and they still today sell great products

msi usually overclocks their products also
so thats a plus
and their most of the time cheaper
 
Eshelmen said:
are you serious dude??

MSI use to be if not was the best gpu manufacturer for nvidia
and they still today sell great products

msi usually overclocks their products also
so thats a plus
and their most of the time cheaper
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Yes, I'm serious. If you're talking about motherboards, you'd be closer to correct, as MSI is considered to be a very good motherboard manufacturer up there with Asus and Abit. In terms of nVidia cards though, eVGA, XFX, and BFG are generally superior. After having looked at the Newegg results, the MSI card is ten dollars cheaper than the XFX and eVGA (there is a rebate available that will drop the price of the eVGA to $234 like the other two). However, the XFX is clocked slightly higher, and the eVGA is clocked significantly higher than the MSI, and both XFX and eVGA offer lifetime warranties. XFX will even transfer the warranty to a second owner, and eVGA covers overclocking and aftermarket heatsinks. MSI only offers a three year warranty:
MSI said:
MSI VGA Products are warranted for 3 year limited warranty (Two (2) years Parts & Labor, and the third Year Parts ONLY, shipping and handling fee will be required).
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MSI also only offers tech support monday through friday during designated hours, while eVGA offers 24/7 support that I can personally vouch is excellent.

If you're still defending MSI as the best videocard manufacturer, I'd recheck my facts.
 
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