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for instance the TB drive how much faster is this going to be over a 500GB drive?

im just thinking cost . and comon i was considering a similarly priced gigabytpe p67 board anyway,,,its neither here nor there

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but comeone no motherboard cheaper than £140 will be suitable for overclocking CPUs anyway.
 
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Indeed, you truly are all over the place -- in this thread alone!

Rather than continuing this back-and-forth question-and-answer session, I'm going to offer up a different set of recommendations for your system. However, I'm only going to list parts; you'll need to research them yourself and figure out where you will buy them from.

Intel Core i5 2500K
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus CPU cooler (get it only if you're serious about overclocking the processor)
16GB of DDR3 1333 CL9 1.5V RAM (find either four 4GB sticks or two 2x4GB sets of RAM from Corsair, G.Skill, Kingston, A-DATA, Patriot, or Mushkin)
An inexpensive P67 or Z68 motherboard with CrossFire and SLI support (like the MSI P67A-G43)
A SATA DVD burner (like the LG GH22NS70)
Samsung F3 HD103SJ 1TB hard drive (Yes, keep it)
AMD Radeon HD 6950 2GB or Nvidia GTX 570 (research both, but choose one)
Corsair TX or HX 750 watt power supply (Go with an 850 watt PSU if you're seriously considering a second video card)
Cooler Master CM 690 II Basic or Cooler Master HAF 912 (go with the CM690 II Advanced only if it costs no more than £25 more than those cases)

The above links all head to NewEgg, a U.S. site that I like to use for reference. You'll need to find different locations to buy the above list from.

The above list should allow you use all of your programs, play all of your games, overclock, and enable you to buy a second card for CrossFire or SLI later on. If this won't work for your needs, tell us why.
 
ill need hyperthreading with the i7 wont i?...

i can only assume this is a really bad recommendation from my other threads. (your parts above recommended above)

however much you can recommend parts your just slowing me down...i will give until tomorrow now to order parts.

but ive been told ill need i7 for the heavy desktop work...i dont know about the motherboard but i know ill need a good one and the z68 are good!

and if i need more memory ill just buy another £30 stick
 
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also only the z68 supports sli or crossfire ...so if i do want to upgrade

ill save some money and buy the ebay power supply and not bother for now with the blue ray optical drive.
I have one! question though!... could i save on the case and get the silverstone ps03 and fit the radeon 6950 by removing some internal drive bays
 
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fudge2011 said:
i can only assume this is a really bad recommendation from my other threads. (your parts above recommended above)
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If you actually did any sort of intelligent research, you'll know for a fact that the above setup is actually good.
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however much you can recommend parts your just slowing me down...
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Well that's rude.
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also only the z68 supports sli or crossfire ...so if i do want to upgrade
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This sentence alone tells me that you have not done any actual research into the platform you're gonna buy yet you're acting like you know what you're buying.
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ill save some money and buy the ebay power supply
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Fairly sure that you won't get any warranty off any PSU purchased off eBay. Not to mention that considering your level of knowledge, I don't recommend that you buy a PSU unless it gets the sign off from a HardForum regular.
 
the z68 extreme4 over the other two z68s i meant....im not being rude

yes of course the above setup is good,,but not good for my needs,,clearly i do know something dannybui
 
You dismiss our collective recommendations as nothing yet you offer no indication that you've conducted any research of your own. Danny was being nice when he called you rude.

Your information, for the most part, is wrong. The Core i7's Hyper Threading offers a performance increase similar to increasing CPU cores; that's what makes the i7-2600K faster than the i5-2500K in resource-intensive programs like heavy video or 3D editing. Adobe Photoshop, however, benefits more from large amounts of memory and fast storage drives (or, in other words, an SSD versus an HDD). Hyper Threading isn't a requirement for running any program.

The Z68 isn't the only Intel chipset that supports SLI and CrossFire. Many boards with the P67 chipset support both SLI and CrossFire; the board that I referenced earlier was one of them. Thus far you've given me no indication that you do need a Z68 board, so I recommended a P67 board that can easily meet your needs yet cost less.

eBay comes with several risks, most notably the facts that no warranty is guaranteed (nor honored by the vendors or the manufacturers, in many cases) and you can't tell what condition the item is in until after it arrives. We don't recommend eBay for first-time builders and I don't recommend it for you now.

For the case, again, you have to figure it out on your own. I personally think that you shouldn't look at the Silverstone case... but what do I know?
 
well. I will save some money and go for your recommended optical drive.
Ill also go for the z68 ps03-m and forget upgrading to a crossfire or sli setup for now.
ill stick with i7 2600k
 
It doesn't support Crossfire or SLI, but your build doesn't need it, so I think it'll be okay. Just order it and be happy.
 
oh right cool.

that ebay seller said he got it wrong nd its actually five years manufacture warranty, im just waiting for him to prove it with a receipt or warranty card. is that the best thing to do do you think?

parts ussually come with something like that ,u know, a warranty statement?
 
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oh right cool.

that ebay seller said he got it wrong nd its actually five years manufacture warranty, im just waiting for him to prove it with a receipt or warranty card. is that the best thing to do do you think?

parts ussually come with something like that ,u know, a warranty statement?
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Dude, you're asking way too much. No one will go through the trouble to support you. You need to just man up and buy your parts. Even if it will cost more than you expected. Otherwise, you're not going to get anything done.
 
im buying everything right now apart from the power supply which i can get £20 cheaer if he has the right warranty
 
I just refinanced all my bank statements, I should be able to survive third year of university and not die of starvation.

hopefully overclocking the i7 shouldnt burn the asrock z68 pro

sorry for annoying everyone,I do appreciate your advice. special thanks go to tonytyt as he helped me from the start, tiraides and dannybui
Only flaw in my build is the motherboard capacity for crossfire, who cares though? i'll just sell it should I need to upgrade.

speaking in utterances :p

the single 6950 will support gaming on three monitors so I've heard from many individuals.
 
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so can anyone confirm Ill need a pci or pcie wireless LAN card on the Asrock z68 pro3.

Im not sure when it says Gigabyte LAN on the motherboard whether this is wireless. I assume it isn't...can someone confirm this? '',
 
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so can anyone confirm Ill need a pci or pcie wireless LAN card on the Asrock z68 pro3.

Im not sure when it says Gigabyte LAN on the motherboard whether this is wireless. I assume it isn't...can someone confirm this? '',
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Do some research yourself now and google or search on wikipedia what Gigabyte LAN is.

You have gone all over the place with your build, and it looks nothing like what anyone here recommended. I think your trying to save money is going to bite you in the butt soon.
 
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so can anyone confirm Ill need a pci or pcie wireless LAN card on the Asrock z68 pro3.

Im not sure when it says Gigabyte LAN on the motherboard whether this is wireless. I assume it isn't...can someone confirm this? '',
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Dude, no offense, but it sounds like you have no business building a computer. Some of these questions you're asking...I mean how are we supposed to know if you're going to need a wireless PCI-e card? We don't know your situation. Please stop being so helpless and do some research on your own. The people posting have given you a metric shit-ton of good advice and have been very patient so far.

I honestly think you'd be better off with buying something safe from a large reputable company like Alienware or Lenovo.
 
You have no knowledge of your own, yet you don't listen to anything people here say.

I think you're just going to have to deal with the more expensive parts and call it a lesson fee, since this is your first time building a computer. If you can't afford it, then put off building a computer for now and return later, or maybe downgrade, spend less money, but gain experience building one yourself.

Also, better English on your part would help, but at this point I don't think it'll matter much since now you're showing attitude.
 
well telling me trying to save money will bight me in the butt.Lets have a look then considering this is the most amount of money ive spent.

The only think ive not spent as much as I could have done on is a motherboard, an extra £35 I could have got an asus z68 board with slo and crossfire support. So what though if I need to go crossfire ill just sell the motherboard and get the asus. Its a question of loosing about £35 now or £10-£20 in the future. Who cares? Secondly the power supply! Say again(speaking in utterneces) I choose to go crossfire in the future I might need a 750W PSU, so what? it'll be about minumum two years time away, and ill sell current PSU for about half price and pay about £70-£85 for a better PSU, so its a question of loosing £0-£15 now or £40-£50 in the future.

If I loose a total of about £110 or so in the future to upgrade, I dont really care, (the cost of the extra GPU too).
Theres nothing else I could have upgraded in anticipation of upgrading the GPU.

Now, lets look at overclocking, what exactly is biting me in the butt? Nothing! reselling an i5 2500k CPU will loose me about £100-£150 minimum. Id always regret not getting an i7!

So if you think about it , the money I save on getting an i7 over an i5 now, pays for the loss of £100-£150 in the future for core compenents(excluding the extra GPU). So you tell me! where I will be bitten in the butt? :) im not being rude but, if your going to give advice on someone sepnding £800 or so, please dont insult them and please be specific. I was never 'all over the place' , reconsidering nvidia over ati, and I have taken a comprehensive decision on what I need. So in addition dont just butt in into conversation and tell someone they will get bitten in the butt for being ignorant. I am appreciative of all the help on here.
 
What programs are you using that "require" Hyper Threading?

And when were you planning on buying a second video card for SLI/CrossFire?
 
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microsoft excel, and others

stuff from here really: http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=290073&mpage=1

also I want to get into photography
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Oh man, yeah Excel on Hyperthreading... whooo look at it go... whee... woo... Looks like a turtle on speed.

Come on, you're not even using MATLAB or Mathematica? Don't get me wrong, I love Excel and use it every day in the workplace. I've done some crazy (silly?) macros (like creating a .kml path file of millions of GPS points back in the Excel 2003 days -- the 65k line limit was rough) but if you're getting an i7 because of the Hyperthreading for Excel, it's an exercise in vanity.

If you knew what a photography workflow was and were processing photoshoots that measure in the hundreds or thousands of photos, yeah, hyperthreading is worth it. But if you're just getting into photography, buying an i7 because of Hyperthreading is an exercise in vanity.

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Now, lets look at overclocking, what exactly is biting me in the butt? Nothing! reselling an i5 2500k CPU will loose me about £100-£150 minimum. Id always regret not getting an i7!
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Go ahead and get the i7. Get a 1337 computer. Pimp it out. The i7 certainly won't go any slower than an i5, but it won't be a lot faster either. Basically what you've done is asked us to help you make a computer with an unrealistic budget and changing requirements. And that's a dick move.

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im not being rude but, if your going to give advice on someone sepnding £800 or so, please dont insult them and please be specific.
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You are being rude. And we were specific. Multiple times. You're treating us like sales people who SHOULD help you because you're spending money rather than people who are VOLUNTEERING to help you. The people answering your questions aren't getting paid by Intel or AMD or Corsair for this. We're just nice (usually.)

£800 is a lot to you, but that doesn't mean shit to me. I put about as much care and time into a build for a $500 computer as a $4000 one. If you were buying the computer from me, yes, I would listen to you waffle back and forth a lot more if you were spending £800 on a computer instead of £300, but last time I checked, I quit Best Buy and you're not paying me anything.

I honestly can't tell if you're trolling us on purpose on not.
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Oh man, yeah Excel on Hyperthreading... whooo look at it go... whee... woo... Looks like a turtle on speed.

Come on, you're not even using MATLAB or Mathematica? Don't get me wrong, I love Excel and use it every day in the workplace. I've done some crazy (silly?) macros (like creating a .kml path file of millions of GPS points back in the Excel 2003 days -- the 65k line limit was rough) but if you're getting an i7 because of the Hyperthreading for Excel, it's an exercise in vanity.

If you knew what a photography workflow was and were processing photoshoots that measure in the hundreds or thousands of photos, yeah, hyperthreading is worth it. But if you're just getting into photography, buying an i7 because of Hyperthreading is an exercise in vanity.



Go ahead and get the i7. Get a 1337 computer. Pimp it out. The i7 certainly won't go any slower than an i5, but it won't be a lot faster either. Basically what you've done is asked us to help you make a computer with an unrealistic budget and changing requirements. And that's a dick move.



You are being rude. And we were specific. Multiple times. You're treating us like sales people who SHOULD help you because you're spending money rather than people who are VOLUNTEERING to help you. The people answering your questions aren't getting paid by Intel or AMD or Corsair for this. We're just nice (usually.)

£800 is a lot to you, but that doesn't mean shit to me. I put about as much care and time into a build for a $500 computer as a $4000 one. If you were buying the computer from me, yes, I would listen to you waffle back and forth a lot more if you were spending £800 on a computer instead of £300, but last time I checked, I quit Best Buy and you're not paying me anything.

I honestly can't tell if you're trolling us on purpose on not.
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what movie is that hand clapping from?

love from, troll

oh and do stop , your making me blush
 
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