New AMD chip review

[Ben-mod]

Great review [H]ardOCP Theres just one thing that is driving me nuts. Can you guys please in the future test the Intel Chips on an Intel board... AND an enthusiast board. If you look at the majority of peoples signatures in these forums, you will not find many people using the Intel D875PBZ.

An Asus/MSI/ABIT/Giga-byte board would make alot more sense being that this is an enthusiast level site.



EDIT CIWS- Please send any comments / suggestions for future reviews to kyle@hardocp.com

 

[djnes]

But why would you want to see a review on a board everyone knows isn't built around performance, or tweaking? Why would Kyle waste his time?

 

[TheMostWantedPolishTwin]

Originally posted by djnes
But why would you want to see a review on a board everyone knows isn't built around performance, or tweaking? Why would Kyle waste his time?

I'd actually like to see the real world difference in performance between Intel's mobos and the others... I'm just curios as I'm 100% sure I'll never get an Intel mobo

 

[burningrave101]

Originally posted by TheMostWantedPolishTwin
I'd actually like to see the real world difference in performance between Intel's mobos and the others... I'm just curios as I'm 100% sure I'll never get an Intel mobo

There is a pretty big difference between the performance of regular Intel board and a higher end Asus, Abit, Gigabyte, MSI board. Right now the Abit IC7-Max 3 is the highest performance i875p board. I just ordered a Gigabyte GA-8KNXP which is also among the top.

 

[Ben-mod]

If I had to pick one board they would use for testing intel chips it would definitely be an enthusiast lvl board But both an intel and enthusiast lvl would be nice.

 

[djnes]

I wasn't trying to be an ass. I'm just saying this is an enthusiast crowd. No one here would buy a plain vanilla Intel board, so Kyle doesn't have much of an audience for it.

 

[burningrave101]

Originally posted by djnes
I wasn't trying to be an ass. I'm just saying this is an enthusiast crowd. No one here would buy a plain vanilla Intel board, so Kyle doesn't have much of an audience for it.

I think he was asking why did kyle use an Intel board INSTEAD of an enthusiast board. Not the other way around .

 

[EnderW]

if you go back and read the review of the D975PBZ , it's just as fast or faster than the IC7-G, it just doesn't have any overclocking options.

http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDYwLDE=

my guess is they use it because Intel boards are supposed to be the most stable, and sorta serve as a reference for other boards

 

[Ben-mod]

Originally posted by burningrave101
I think he was asking why did kyle use an Intel board INSTEAD of an enthusiast board. Not the other way around .

Yeah thats what im asking. The Intel boards are stable, but i dont think they are as fast as Asus and MSI 875 chipset boards. Thats why its kind of an awkward comparison. They should use boards from the same company. Like two asus or two msi or whatever.

 

[burningrave101]

Originally posted by Ben-mod
Yeah thats what im asking. The Intel boards are stable, but i dont think they are as fast as Asus and MSI 875 chipset boards. Thats why its kind of an awkward comparison. They should use boards from the same company. Like two asus or two msi or whatever.

Yea i agree. Especially when the performance difference for the most part is near equal between the Pentium 4 and the A64 in several areas, the motherboard and memory configuration can mean the world as far as the performance results. Sure alot of the time they use the same DIMMs for both systems but maybe one of the systems doesn't run as well with that memory as it does another kind.

Really alot less emphasis should be put on benchmark results if they are close togethor. I've seen the Pentium 4 against the A64 win in Quake III, Jedi Knight 2, Comanche 4, and other games and then in some reviews the A64 does. I think it has alot to do with the reviewer and the way they set up both machines.

Heck windows xp alone will throw benchmarks off slightly every time because each time you boot a system different services will load.

Its best to look at the areas where the processor has more of a command lead then a slight lead and just deduct the fact that both processors are good in the areas where there is only a slight advantage according to benches. Because almost always the slight lead will shift back and forth depening on how you set up the system and how you configure the BIOS settings.