New 9800 gtx+ problems?

btgorman

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I just bought a 9800 GTX+ which I received about 4 days ago. There's a couple of things about this card that worries me, and I'll try to be concise as possible.

First of all, is it normal for my 9800 GTX+ (55nm) to reach as high at 84 C at 70% fan speed? That seems pretty high considering the fan's noise and the less power consumption of the smaller chip.

I tried finding the overclocking limits of the card by setting the GPU to 95%~ of stock speeds, then individually core, shader, and memory until I began seeing glitches. I got from 1100 to 1385 memory before my computer reboot itself! I did not see any glitching at 1375 at all, nor even 1385 the little time it was there. So I decided that 1375 was the absolute max, but this is with the underclocked core and shader. Compensating for whatever I could clock the cores and shaders at, I guessed that I might be able to get a stable OC to 1360.

Then I went on to finding my Core's max OC. I got it up from 740 to 800, then tried 790, but nope! There was still some minor artifacts, then 780. I finally stopped at 775 stable; fine with me. Then shaders stabled from 1835 to 1955. Note that during all my trials I always underclocked the other 2 areas to their 95%. So I tried, with a reasonable margin overclocking the core and shader together, but I could only get the core from 740 to 750 stable, regardless of my being able to reach 775 with slightly underclocked shaders. Now I've deduced that I have pretty much no margin to overclock my GPU at all. (During all my OC woes, temp never rose about 85 C)

(During my OC's, I didn't jump straight up. I paced myself between 25 to 6 clocks depending on how high I was in relation to stock settings.)

My third and last problem is Bioshock. I enabled 4xAA via nHancer, but I could only play about 5-10 min. before it crashes on me. Sometimes I'll be able to get to the desktop, sometimes not. I can tell you that when I did get to the desktop, it looked like there was confetti all over my desktop, and also, I got a windows notification that the graphics device driver had failed. This sounds horribly like a dying video card. I've had a couple of Go 7900 GS fail on me in my laptop days. But I can still seem to play the card just fine without any AA. So far, Bioshock is the only game giving me problems, but I will be trying more to discover if this is an isolated event.

So to sum it up:
1. High temps with 70% fan speed.
2. No OC margin.
3. Bioshock errors.
:(

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RMA...

But nvidia cards run pretty hot. It's just the nature of their design philosophy.
 
1: Yeah, IIRC, that generation of cards from both NV and ATI had preposterous temps. Look up some reviews to be sure.
2: My 3850's the same way. What little OC I can do gives me no performance gain. Probably has to do with the aforementioned ridiculous temps.
3: In my experience, wierd crap like that isn't always reproducable by other owners of the same hardware, so it's probably software bollocks. Drivers, game misbehavior, etc. I had that stuff goin on in Mass Effect, and only the patch solved it. No driver reinstallation helped me.

Good luck.
 
I ask because I've read a couple of reviews about the 9800 GTX+.

Xbit labs http://xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/palit-gf9800gtxplus_5.html#sect0 states that the reference cooler gives 70~ C on load. Other reviews have been able to OC to about 815~ core along with shaders and memory. I'm not at all interested in playing games with my GPU overclocked, but I was curious how high I could go. The issue of not being able to OC has me worried that I might have a lemon though.

Regarding Bioshock, I don't think it's actually my GPU; it's likely a software problem. Thanks for the replies.

Should I be looking into RMA'ing the card?
 
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