Need some water cooling help PLEASE

[chappin317]

I am going to overclock My AMD Venice (when it comes out), Memory with some waterblocks,My video cards but thats with air and some Heatpipes and Alot of air directed to them, and well i have been looking in the net and have considered these setups:

Evercool WC-202but instead of the single 80mm radiator that it has, I was going to buy an additional Radiator... and it would come out to $117.00 plus shipping. the thing is that it only moves around 29 gallons an hour is that good i cant decide from the reviews i mean with one radiator its simple, but with the second would it be worth it?

Thermaltake Bigwater, same thing with an additinal radiator, and this one only moves 33 gallons an hour.

And my number one pick the Swiftech H20-80-FB REV. 3, but i cant find a radiator for it,a and well this may sound a little annal but i like to buy kits from the same company for example the Watercool and thermaltake the additional radiators are from Evercool and Thermaltake, but I cant find the Swiftec Radiator without a KIt i just want the additional Radiator alone.

So main question which will Suffice, and give bang for the buck, and which Coolant is best under 15 bux a gallon.

 

[Lothar5150]

I am going to overclock My AMD Venice (when it comes out), Memory with some waterblocks,My video cards but thats with air and some Heatpipes and Alot of air directed to them, and well i have been looking in the net and have considered these setups:

Evercool WC-202but instead of the single 80mm radiator that it has, I was going to buy an additional Radiator... and it would come out to $117.00 plus shipping. the thing is that it only moves around 29 gallons an hour is that good i cant decide from the reviews i mean with one radiator its simple, but with the second would it be worth it?

Thermaltake Bigwater, same thing with an additinal radiator, and this one only moves 33 gallons an hour.

And my number one pick the Swiftech H20-80-FB REV. 3, but i cant find a radiator for it,a and well this may sound a little annal but i like to buy kits from the same company for example the Watercool and thermaltake the additional radiators are from Evercool and Thermaltake, but I cant find the Swiftec Radiator without a KIt i just want the additional Radiator alone.

So main question which will Suffice, and give bang for the buck, and which Coolant is best under 15 bux a gallon.

Evercool and Thermaltake make very weak kits. Honestly, you would be much better off with a Corsair, Swiftech or Danger Den product.

 

[DFI Daishi]

quite frankly, this is overpriced since you can shop around for the individual parts and save some on virtually everything in here, however this would be a good performing "kit" if you are just going to cool your CPU.

http://www.dangerdenstore.com/cart.php

i used the eheim because it is somewhat cheaper than the dangerden 12 V pump, but the 12 V would probably perform somewhat better, and definately be easier to work into the system.

don't bother watercooling your memory. you should probably consider a 240x120 rad, and a GPU waterblock.

 

[chappin317]

yeah i know I was trying to see if I can pinch as many pennies as possible, just out of curiosity, if I was not to overclock they would have been just ok with 2 radiators.

new question what is the best coolant or coolant addative?

 

[chappin317]

quite frankly, this is overpriced since you can shop around for the individual parts and save some on virtually everything in here, however this would be a good performing "kit" if you are just going to cool your CPU.

http://www.dangerdenstore.com/cart.php

i used the eheim because it is somewhat cheaper than the dangerden 12 V pump, but the 12 V would probably perform somewhat better, and definately be easier to work into the system.

don't bother watercooling your memory. you should probably consider a 240x120 rad, and a GPU waterblock.

you know i was just there looking at the same exact things exept with the 12v pump that is about to come out the one that is 2x2x2 wow that is good nice setup i think

 

[ikellensbro]

If you want to pinch pennies you should get everything individually, kits are overpriced. There are plenty of ways to save money, its all about how much performance you want/are willing to spend. Some ways to save money:
Get a heatercore & put fitting & shroud on it (1977 Bonneville (2x120) & 1986 Chevette (1x120) are common).
Use Clearflex 60 tubing instead of Tygon, Clearflex is just about as good, but less than half the price.
Use a T-line instead of buying a reservoir, unless you make the reservoir yourself.
Use distilled water + antifreeze instead of fluidXP, which doesnt really do too much that disttiled water & antifreeze dont.
Use a pond pump instead of a D/C pump that might not work well if your psu has low 12V line amps.
As it is in general for hardware, buying used can save you even more.

Whatever you buy, make sure you get 1/2" fittings, they cost the same as 3/8, but gives much more flow.
Do some more research, you dont need anything more than good case airflow to cool memory & the chipset as well (with a good HS), and always remember to leak test & use hose clamps, you wouldnt like even a small chance of liquid getting on your brand new hardware would you?

 

[DFI Daishi]

as noted several times: distilled/deionized water and zerex or water wetter coolant additive. bottles have reccomended mix ratio printed on them, usually.

i'm not saying that you shold buy these items online and pay shipping on them, though. a well stocked auto parts store should have them, and often for cheaper than online prices.

 

[DFI Daishi]

oh yeah: again, buying everything from dangerden is overpriced. better to shop around and pick up individual parts, also using normal pumps and rads instead of specialized stuff.

wish that i'd looked into heatercores back when i was building my rig...........

 

[Erasmus354]

as noted several times: distilled/deionized water and zerex or water wetter coolant additive. bottles have reccomended mix ratio printed on them, usually.

i'm not saying that you shold buy these items online and pay shipping on them, though. a well stocked auto parts store should have them, and often for cheaper than online prices.

Dont use the recommended mix ratio on the bottles. Those products are made for automotive uses, not watercooling. The mix ratios are different, watercooling loops do not need the same concentration as cars do.

 

[DFI Daishi]

Dont use the recommended mix ratio on the bottles. Those products are made for automotive uses, not watercooling. The mix ratios are different, watercooling loops do not need the same concentration as cars do.

the magic 10% mix ratio then?

the stuff that i use (probably just re-packaged zerex) that the store called "purple ice" reccomended 10% mix anyway so i just assumed that was standard.

 

[R1ckCa1n]

yeah i know I was trying to see if I can pinch as many pennies as possible, just out of curiosity, if I was not to overclock they would have been just ok with 2 radiators.

new question what is the best coolant or coolant addative?

Wait a minute.... You are willing to buy the Venice core the second it comes out, have blocks on your memory, and multiple video cards but will stimp on the CPU block? This makes no sense at all.

You will need a pretty damn good watercooling setup to keep a cpu, memory, and two video cards cool enough to overclock.....

 

[chappin317]

If you want to pinch pennies you should get everything individually, kits are overpriced. There are plenty of ways to save money, its all about how much performance you want/are willing to spend. Some ways to save money:
Get a heatercore & put fitting & shroud on it (1977 Bonneville (2x120) & 1986 Chevette (1x120) are common).
Use Clearflex 60 tubing instead of Tygon, Clearflex is just about as good, but less than half the price.
Use a T-line instead of buying a reservoir, unless you make the reservoir yourself.
Use distilled water + antifreeze instead of fluidXP, which doesnt really do too much that disttiled water & antifreeze dont.
Use a pond pump instead of a D/C pump that might not work well if your psu has low 12V line amps.
As it is in general for hardware, buying used can save you even more.

Whatever you buy, make sure you get 1/2" fittings, they cost the same as 3/8, but gives much more flow.
Do some more research, you dont need anything more than good case airflow to cool memory & the chipset as well (with a good HS), and always remember to leak test & use hose clamps, you wouldnt like even a small chance of liquid getting on your brand new hardware would you?

i was looking at that tubing at a website, the way they test it is they fill it with air until it looks like a balloon, and then it pops but man that stuff is by far the greatest tubing i have ever heard pop.......LOL its very good in deed i am going to definately buy 10-15 feet of it just to have around (the left over of course)

 

[chappin317]

This has by far been a great experience, here is what I will be getting thanks to my girlfriend who was saving $200.00 bux for me to do whatever I wanted with it and to all the info that you have all helped me think with
Will Be Getting in 4 months when all kinks are out ::::
Clear Acrylic Case with 5 Fans (blue led 50cfm)
AMD Venice 3500+ when it comes out
Swiftec with the 240x120MM radiator (yeah i know i should have thought of that from the get-go)
1gig of DDR 600
DFI Ultra D and the Leadtek 6600GT and the waterblock for it and OC it to 600/1200
Clear blue led keyboard with matching mouse

For now i will just get the Water cooler and the Athlon XP-m 45watt 1.45V 2800+
Keep my Abit NF7-S 2.0
1 gig of Kingston hyperx 3200
and get the Zalman heatpipe for my Gainward 5700Ultra
i will soon post my rig and thank all those that helped me leard what i needed to set my rig up

 

[DFI Daishi]

so..........why are you paying premium for the leadtek, so that you can then strip off the nice stock cooling solution that you are paying a premium price for?

if you are going to watercool it anyway, why not shop around for a bargain?